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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2011 - 08:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

something doesnt add up

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2071741/Is -downed-U-S-stealth-drone-Iranian-TV-airs-footage- military-officials-inspecting-craft.html
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2011 - 08:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

AFAIK, When the operator looses control, it glides to the earth...thats why it wasn't damaged. We should treat the drone just like a human and demand it's release.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2011 - 08:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pentagon claims they lost contact with the drone. ( take that for what you will )

It sure as heck didn't get shot down. It's so darn clean it looks fake to me.

I propose we offer a 10 million dollar reward for anyone who blows it up. Preferably with as many as possible in Iran's govt. nearby. Go big. Make a mess. What could it hurt? ( no that's not a call for a nuclear strike. But if you gotta to make the millions, who am I to stop you? )
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2011 - 08:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Even in sand dunes a plane that heavy with gear up would get pretty messed up gliding in for a landing. It looks too good. Somethings rotten here.
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Zane
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2011 - 08:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

One report I read said that the Iranians took control over of the drone. If true, it's a very scary idea.
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2011 - 08:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It does look amazingly intact. Planes are engendered to deal with flight stresses, not so much crash stresses, even an "uncontrolled landing".

Why was it even over Iran? It would make sense over an active war zone, but this is just violation of their airspace. Why? Makes me wonder what the connection is between this and the "explosions" at their nuke plant. I'm sure the administration will be transparent with the information about this.
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Bandm
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2011 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Doesn't look like a 90 foot wingspan, looks much smaller.
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Fahren
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2011 - 09:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No doubt sent over there by the Houston Police Dept:



http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/space/4234 272
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2011 - 09:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wouldn't put it past the Iranians to do an internet search on unmanned stealth drones and build a replica for propaganda purposes.
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Barker
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2011 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FYI: I own a "drone". When I lose control of it, or if it determines an system/sensor failure it will land itself. It lands on its own way better that I can manually land it. Sooooooo, it can't be that hard for Lockhead to program that thing to land by itself unharmed.

I wonder if the military programs it to land or destroy itself in the event of a loss of HQ control.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2011 - 10:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You'd think there would be a toggle switch:

"Safe"

"Self-destruct"

Operator chooses which option, based on environment, will take precedence if comm loss occurs. Training? "Safe". Combat theatre? "Self Destruct".

Put pictures on the control panel that indicate which is which, just to be sure.
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2011 - 11:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yeah, seems a bit small for the dimensions that they list in that picture
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2011 - 11:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

maybe... it is a plant... and there is a small nuclear device on board ... or something else.... or.. maybe it is a test just to see what they do with it.... or not.
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Fahren
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2011 - 11:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's a very realistic, and scary scenario:

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=198831
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2011 - 12:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

*&^*. None of this bothered me much beyond the realization (yet again) that Obama is another passive aggresive president until I read Zanes post.'

*(*&.

Too much off the shelf tech....
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2011 - 12:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

looks like it is on display in a high school gymnasium.
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2011 - 03:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This technology isn't really that new so I wouldn't think it's beyond the Iranians to deal with.
Everybody's worried about them going nuclear so they can't be that dumb.

They don't bother with the high tech stuff much as they don't need to, brainwashed "martyrs" are so much cheaper.

It's a philosophical thing rather than a technological thing, we (the more or less civilised countries) prize human life, whereas the fundamentalist muslims consider it a good thing to give their lives for the Jihad.

One man with a smart-phone & a video camera is far cheaper than that drone & replaced far quicker.

The other thought is that maybe it's a red herring, the thing is loaded up with disinformation, who knows.

I fail to see the Obama connection, I presume he wasn't flying the thing & he'd look pretty stupid sending in the marines to recover a piece of hardware that's built to be expendable to save military lives.

Or am I looking at this the wrong way?
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Two_seasons
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2011 - 04:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Remember when the Clinton Commerce Dept. looked the other way and the Chinese secured their new state-of-the-art nav system?

Maybe Obama and company handed the Muslim Brotherhood an active guidance set for the drones!

Surely this drone is nav'ed by GPS. Surely we can find it if WE WANTED TO! Maybe that is the point, our gov't gave it to the Iranians so they protect their borders, much like we gave $200+ million to the Mexicans to secure/protect their southern border.

It sure is curious that after all these years of using drones, that at the height of tensions in the Middle East about "the bomb", all the sudden Iran now has one of ours. For copying and securing their borders?
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2011 - 05:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fast and Furious, the sequel.

:" Lets see if the Iranians have the capability to launch a nuclear steal weapon - sell them the technology and follow the lead"
we have been down this rabbit hole before.
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Nukeblue
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2011 - 10:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

whats up with the american flag lookin flag with skulls for stars & the statue of liberty on it??
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Fahren
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2011 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good for a chuckle, as always: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-december-7-2 011/game-of-drones
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2011 - 05:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



(Message edited by ferris_von_bueller on December 09, 2011)
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, December 10, 2011 - 04:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ferris von,

Clicking on the little "" icon allows you to delete your entire post. : )
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Saturday, December 10, 2011 - 05:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Clicking on the big X initiates Blake's self destruct sequence, so make sure you click on the right one.
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U4euh
Posted on Saturday, December 10, 2011 - 08:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Trojan Horse comes to my mind.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, December 10, 2011 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If only I thought they were that smart....
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Zane
Posted on Friday, December 16, 2011 - 03:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting article from the Christian Science Monitor.

Not sure how much of it to believe but seems more and more likely to me.

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2011/12 15/Exclusive-Iran-hijacked-US-drone-says-Iranian-e ngineer
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Brumbear
Posted on Friday, December 16, 2011 - 07:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Shyt we probably bugged it and let them have it.
Big brother aint just watching US
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Buellifer
Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2011 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Quote... "something doesnt add up"

A smart bomb aimed at the drone would add up just fine.
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