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Kenm123t
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2011 - 07:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ann Nails it again !
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2011 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Very interesting voice analysis lie detector of Cain and Bialek.

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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2011 - 12:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Eh..no one who watches MSNBC will vote for Cain anyway. They can badmouth him to all 376 of their viewers all they want.
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Geforce
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2011 - 12:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for posting that video Sifo...

Why hasn't this been aired on the major networks?

The only thing I think Cain needs to do at the moment is get rid of his Campaign Manager. It is my opinion that he's not making the right choices for HC. Not sure who would be a better choice, but I just don't like his current manager.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2011 - 02:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The video and the technology is interesting, but I would take it with a grain of salt, particularly when you are using video in non controlled settings.

Kinda like the face recognition built into Picassa. Pretty cool when and how it works, and it feels a little like magic. Except when it doesn't.
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2011 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't need a machine to see that the woman is lying. It's obvious. She's a very poor actor. Her bizarre caricature of herself is what really shows the lie.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2011 - 06:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The technology analyzes speech.....video is irrelevant to it's purpose
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2011 - 08:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I meant *that* video... shot at a press conference, from which you extract audio, by playing it back through a computer.

Thats gonna have some effect.

She was clearly working from a prepared statement as well, that is also likely a confounding factor for the software.

I'm not saying she is telling the truth, just saying don't believe that the situation this software was used in gets you 95% accuracy.
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Reindog
Posted on Friday, November 11, 2011 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Notice how these stories die so quickly after the political damage of character assassination has been accomplished?

It really smells that Obama is indirectly involved in this so-called scandal via David Axelrod. It follows the same pattern of how Obama was elected senator from Illinois.
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Crusty
Posted on Friday, November 11, 2011 - 01:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

He's a politician. it's easy to tell if he's lying. His lips are moving.
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T9r
Posted on Friday, November 11, 2011 - 02:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If anyone is to become President they will be the center of attention, so how they handle these accusations and spotlight shows how they will deal in the future....
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Geforce
Posted on Friday, November 11, 2011 - 03:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"He's a politician. it's easy to tell if he's lying. His lips are moving."

I assume you are speaking of someone else... who has held a public office. Cain hasn't yet.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2011 - 09:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I always wanted a voice stress meter displayed real time during politicians speeches.

Wouldn't work, though. So many politicians are sociopathic liars that would register as unstressed as they read a speech with no truth at all. Many could probably do so with a cold reading on a teleprompter of previously unknown material.

I, of course, don't Know if Cain is a good guy or a weasel. I doubt he's the kind of sociopath to beat a voice stress analyzer, there's no sign of it in his past. ( unlike many of the other people involved in this election )

Voice stress gear is not a reliable truth divination tool in itself. Combined with gesture & infrared analysis, ( heartbeat, galvanic, etc. is handy too ) you get better results.

And as you know, crazy people can beat lie detectors. Most of the folk running for office seem to be crazy people.
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Rocketsprink
Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2011 - 09:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"I assume you are speaking of someone else... who has held a public office. Cain hasn't yet."

And never will. Thank God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!
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Kenm123t
Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2011 - 09:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LOl Cain will be the one that outlaws unions Unions will fall under the Rico laws. College sports are headed that way so how much farther behind can the unions be since thier opiates will be gone. Less beer will be consumed and may be the membership will see how bad off they really are. Its amazing how much info is out there if you have reading comprehension past 3rd grade. I ve read the UA text books lol

Serfdom is what the weak minded desire.
Oh we thought the Union was your God. .
Still a promise breaker? knew you couldnt keep it!
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2011 - 10:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gee Rocket... what is it about Cain you fear?

Do you really prefer professional politicians over citizen businessmen running for office?? Is a Newt a better Choice for you?

Or is it ideology? Do you want a European Style Social Democracy with the ruinous high taxes and economic stagnation that produces?

Or is it a Party thing? You prefer the Party of the Klan to the Party of Lincoln? ( yes, yes, neither party is the same as a half century ago. Few D politicians are still in power that pushed through Jim Crow laws ... though I'd argue that the Plantation mentality is central to the D's long term actions. )

Or should it be the Party of Business vs. the Party of the Holy State? ( taking into account the Progressive/marxist influence on Both parties )

Just curious why you fear an "authentically Black" man in power?

( a Sharpton reference..... http://www.theblaze.com/stories/al-sharpton-debate s-whether-herman-cain-is-authentically-black/ or a "conservative taunt" http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/fischer-unli ke-president-obama-herman-cain-authentically-black Your choice.... Though I think Sharpton deserves the credit for the coining of the phrase "authentically Black" quite a while ago. )
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2011 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rocco hates black people. Why else would he be against Cain?

You should be ashamed of yourself, racist.
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Crusty
Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2011 - 12:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This forum has really gone to shit.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2011 - 12:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LOL...FT....I think you are right.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2011 - 01:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I really needed more smiley faces after the "authentically Black" question.

I had no intention of accusing anyone of racism. Certainly not Rocketsprink. It was a small flame. I know I'm offended by the propaganda and racism of the very idea of racial obligation to a political party.

Ok, the Democrat Party Leadership, them I accuse of a long and bloody history of Racism going back well over a century. Jim Crow, Pro-Slavery, KKK, all Dem Party basics.

The Eugenics, forced sterilization, racial caste system stuff of the 20th century isn't really Democrat Party, it's the neo-marxist Progressive Movements thing. Which, nowadays, is mainly but not exclusively the ideology behind the DNC.

All Rocket has to do to prove I'm right about his lack of racism is to actually answer my honest questions. He certainly can skip that last one, since it's just a poke.

He who uses envy and hate to gain power is evil.

(Message edited by aesquire on November 13, 2011)
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Kenm123t
Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2011 - 05:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aes ask him something he can actually do.
I have found he cant keep a simple promise. Rospierre loved men like Rocco so easily spurred in to mob activity.
The sad thing is Rocco is mad at the wrong people. His union and its relationships with Richard Trumka and Obama that are destroying his way of life. Those men are insuring debt slavery for his children and grand children.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2011 - 06:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This forum has really gone to shit.

7072 posts, and you're still here. Is that the best you've got after all these years?
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Court
Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2011 - 07:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is a shame to see the disgrace the unions have brought upon their remaining members.

As has been demonstrated, through their support and financial backing of the Occupy silliness, they are pretty much irrelevant.
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Reindog
Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2011 - 07:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ironically, OWS should be protesting the Unions because the Union protects its own. There is no room for an Obamaville resident in the union.
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Geforce
Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2011 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"And never will. Thank God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!"

I seem to remember a good number of people thinking the same thing about Obama... I wouldn't count him out till it's over. If Mr. Cain wins the primary I will really enjoy watching the POTUS getting his political bum handed to him on national television by someone who has substance and doesn't require a teleprompter running on hope and change.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2011 - 09:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain has hired a high-profile defamation lawyer to keep an eye on the sexual harassment accusations made public by two women this week.
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Buellerxt
Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 01:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why has the interest in this thread died? lol Hey, I liked ol' Herman but do I believe him now? Yeah, and I'm still trying to get a good deal on the Brooklyn Bridge! LOL This thread is a good wake up call for folks, like me at times, to wait for a story to unfold before jumping to defend, or attack. Just sayin'! : )

As for ol' Herman, he's toast.
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 02:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Herman may very well be toast. It's sad though that none of his accusers has any real credibility. It would be great to know what the truth really is, but I don't think that is going to matter in this case, or even be of interest to 99% of the media.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 02:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cain may or may not be lying. The most damming statement I have heard so far came from Cain's lawyer.

There is one huge hypocrite here though. The press. When it was Clinton and harassment and infidelity (and probably even flat out rape), it was spun as bimbos and bozos. Or it was "just sex". Then it was "move along folks nothing to see here".

When its a strong conservative candidate though, then all of a sudden its "leave no stone unturned and every crackpot should treated as 100% credible until absolutely proven otherwise.

(and for the record, I would rather see both parties treated like conservatives are treated, not both parties treated like liberals are treated)

I'm likely not the only one that LONG ago stopped paying for news because the news, by and in large, is doing a crappy job with their moral imperative and critical role in the operation of a democracy.

I'm once again proven niave though. While I expect political bureaucrats to be political bureaucrats, I expected better from the press. Though in hindsight, I don't know why I would...
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Buellkowski
Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2011 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There is one huge hypocrite here though. The press.

I disagree. I remember the press being all over Clinton's Flowers/Jones/Lewinsky et al dalliances, with supporting and detracting talking heads on both sides of his issues.

Are you saying you believe that if a woman came forward and publicly accused Pres. Obama of having an affair with her, the press would hold back or otherwise suppress the story because he's liberal?
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