| Author | Message | ||
     Blake |
http://bcove.me/ztsl9d21 They refer to it as sexual "harassment", but what is described, actually putting hands on, might actually be full blown sexual assault. The accuser's delivery is unconvincing. She sounds like a bad actor reading a script. Why would she have to read such a short account and one so incredibly personal to her? Also, if her accusations were true, it seems she'd be using her own talking voice to quote herself, rather than what sounds like a caricature. Then there's the assertion by the lawyer that two of her old boyfriends at the time had corroborated the story. LOL. Can you say inadmissible hear-say? Slime alert! The other part that sounds suspect is her description that he put his hand on her genitals then pushed her head towards his crotch. Sounds awkward to achieve those simultaneously while sitting next to an alleged victim in a car. If it's true, Cain's a turd and needs to go. If it's false, then more power to him and the liars need to serve time behind bars. Had the media been so hyper-vigilant concerning Obama's shady dealings with Tony Rezko, his close relationships with terrorists, and his crackpot preacher, he'd never have won the nomination. | ||
| Drkside79 |
>>>>If it's true, Cain's a turd and needs to go. If it's false, then more power to him and the liars need to serve time behind bars. Can't agree more | ||
| Boltrider |
I'm biased - I can't stand Gloria Allred. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I agree that her statement didn't seem credible. It doesn't jive with what I know about him nor what others have stated. I believe GA is there to lend credibility to her story. If GA is standing behind a woman, then the allegations MUST be true, right? This smells of Clarence Thomas. Working of the worst kind. The sad thing is that this probably originated with the Perry campaign. | ||
| Pwnzor |
Gloria Allred is a load of wasted human flesh. | ||
| Mtjm2 |
Should any one be shocked , now that hes the front runner in some polls . There will be more attempts by the main stream media to bring him down . Any thing to protect the man they protected into office . | ||
| Reindog |
This is obviously a political hatchet job as the accuser made a political statement. This woman didn't even work at the company so what grounds does she have? If withholding of a job offer was threatened, then bring charges twenty years ago, not now? No person is safe if any yahoo can make any uncorroborated accusation at any time to defame their character. This is sickening. Why are Blacks not in an uproar as this really is becoming a legal lynching? | ||
| Drkside79 |
2 things to consider. #1 Sexual assault nowadays is hard to prove. Back 20 years ago it was even harder. Therefore woman did not often come forward. #2 as none of us where there its for others to sort out as this is a sticky situation to discuss. | ||
| Reindog |
This is for US to sort out as the termites are starting to infest. So where is the sexual assault in this case? Was she raped? No. Did he stop. Yes. This is a hatchet job. How convenient to spew twenty years later when Cain is gathering momentum and she most likely POLITICALLY disagrees with him. OK, why is the media not going full time about the sexual harassment charge by some gay dude against Jesse Jackson? Look it up yourself. Gee, I would think that would be a big story but all you get is crickets chirping. I had not even heard about this am I am usually plugged into whats going on. | ||
| Reindog |
Anyone wanna bet that this woman is a Democrat? Just wondering. Look, I am sensitive that sexual harassment and assault exists. However, the timing of these accusations are suspect. As the Church Lady says, "How convenient". The accusations smell like they are nuisance suits for the small amount of dollars involved in the sealed settlements. The Allred client doesn't have a leg to stand on especially after grand standing in front of the camera today. This is not going to make it easier for true harassment cases in the future. Allred is not making it easier for women. I repeat, NO person, male or female, is safe when any yahoo can make any uncorroborated accusation at any time. | ||
| Fahren |
Well, "sex" sells more papers than allegations that Cain sold a disproportionate amount of his own books to his campaign , using donated funds (like $100,000 worth - not illegal, just likely to be seen by many as improper); or allegations of improper campaign contributions via his campaign manager and a not-for-profit. Those, if true, may be more damning in the end, but they can't beat a good, old-fashioned sex story. Those are better than firemen saving kittens from burning buildings: pure media gold. On the other hand, if Cain can't pull himself together and get his act straight in the face of this sort of thing, how would he fare as "the leader of the free world?" He needs to fire his handlers, if he is serious about his candidacy. | ||
| Cowboy |
Wht dont he attack her I would say there is no harasment I PAID HER and charge her with protition. | ||
| Moxnix |
She's a registered Repub. Clinton was impeached for diddling a Whithouse intern, paid off a lady for sexual harrasment, we enjoyed him on tape with J. Flowers (whom he swore he didn't have a relationship with) and is still the big cheese of the Left. Larry Sinclair wrote a book about sex and crack with Obutta, and a death related to covering things up at Rev. Wright's church, and Obutta is the darling of the Left. Odd, what, that the Repubs are vilified for things that get the Demos sainthood. | ||
| Sifo |
I hate to say it but if you wait many, many years to come forward with this sort of accusation, only to come forward in the middle of an election, you lack credibility. Picking Allred as your attorney, only makes you that much less credible IMO. If it's true, Cain's a turd and needs to go. If it's false, then more power to him and the liars need to serve time behind bars. That about sums it up. | ||
| Hootowl |
"Clinton was impeached for diddling a Whithouse intern" Clinton was impeached for lying under oath during the Paula Jones trial while he was still the governor of Arkansas. He was not impeached for lying while not under oath when he looked me in the eye on national TV and said that he did not have sex with that woman. And frankly, I don't care. That's between him, her, and his wife. The charge of abuse of power, though discussed, was never leveled by congress. | ||
| Moxnix |
Yes, impeached for lying. But Newsweek was spiking the Lewinsky scandal for 6 months until that Drudge Report story brought it out in the open. Lewinsky is what actually triggered his impeachment, on whatever legal basis. He's still a hero to the Dems. | ||
| Court |
No credibility. Tough to get to spun up about this . . . . if it wasn't important when it happened, it's less so now. Even the gal can surely appreciate that the timing looks ill motivated from any angle it's viewed. No one . . . at the stage . . . could care about the merits. They are effectively making Cain a household name . . witness the rise in his popularity in the last week. If he were a Democrat . . . this would not even had made it on the radar. The "good news" is . . . this is the "new" America . . the gal will be a millionaire by a week from Wednesday. A fact that Gloria is well aware of as she bills her 33%. Yawn. | ||
| Reindog |
"Thanks, Moxnix. I stand corrected. | ||
| Moxnix |
Seeing Gloria at her side for the press conference made me smirk. 'Nuff said, right there. | ||
| Johnnymceldoo |
I dont know what is more depressing. Another political figure is giant turd if the allegations are true or the fact that if he was a white democrat this would be a headline everyday. If the allegations are true Id use the liberal playbook and claim being black means having stronger uncontrollable impulses. The American people are stupid enough to believe anything. | ||
| Just_ziptab |
She used the word "inappropriate" when telling her friend what happened. I don't think "that" word was even tied to harassment in 1996. Sounds like she is well rehearsed in her story....OF SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED YEARS AGO! Women don't bring skeletons like that, back to life....except for money. | ||
| Aesquire |
If guilty, Cain should go away, Possibly jailed. If innocent, the girl should pay. Allard should be disbarred. Period. Heard a comedian make the comment while discussing Bieber's paternity/statutory rape scandal, ( Bieber was the one allegedly 'raped' ) that if you are accused of fathering a child, and found innocent, you should be able to have sex with the accuser.  It's true that we don't have a method for dealing with people who falsely accuse others in these matters. The law has not caught up with itself in this matter. Still, the comedians' idea, while funny, is not acceptable. In fact, just telling that joke can get you charged....  Hey, I'm a Women's Libber. Sexual harassment is bad. Sexual assault is worse. Not acceptable behavior. But after 100 stories from a Leftist anti-Republican "media" company ( politico ) and various lawyers jumping on the bandwagon, I'd bet ten bucks this is bogus. I want to know who actually started this? Some signs point to Perry operatives, and others to Rahm. I bet it's the Obama campaign getting double the results for half the effort. Any takers? | ||
| Reindog |
Karl Rove said that it is unlikely that the Obama Crime Syndicate had anything to do with this because of the timing. Cain is viewed as the weaker of the Republican candidates so they would have waited until after Cain won the nomination to sling this particular mud. This would be really damaging if it happened in September or October 2012 whether the allegations are true or not. | ||
| Gregtonn |
The accusations are obviously politically motivated as the statute of limitations ran out long ago. G | ||
| Fahren |
Might be true, might not be. We weren't there (thank goodness : -) If someone had wronged me (lied, cheated, stolen, etc), and I had filed a complaint, the matter was settled, then, years later, this person shows up as possibly becoming the president of the US!!!, you better believe I would get the word out that the guy is a stinker. It would be like your worst nightmare (one you thought you had forgotten) coming back to haunt you - in your face. Speaking up, even, and especially, after many years, would be the most normal behavior, completely expected. So, someone in this story is a stinker: a big player who put three women up to "speaking out;" the three women and possibly their legal counsel; or Cain. | ||
| Fahren |
Gregtonn, your statement is exactly what I was talking about - you instantly label it as political fabrication, to bring the guy down. If some former boss of your wife had acted as a total sleaze to your wife, then, years later, you see him rising to the national stage and being a contender in the US presidential race - biggest job in the world - would it be political for you to raise a stink, or just because you felt that there is no way the country should trust a sleazeball like that former boss of your wife's? | ||
| Aesquire |
Cain is viewed as the weaker of the Republican candidates... I disagree. Cain was leading in some polls, and has the added problem of being a Black Republican. Conservative Blacks threaten the mythology of the Democrat Party more than anything. Older ones like Cain remember when the Klan invited people to register and vote Dem or be lynched. Leftist have to shut down Conservatives who are Black. They often call them names, like Oreo. ( Leftists are very racist, always have been ) Also, the "inevitability" of Mitt is a myth of the Republican "Establishment" ( country club ) who want the status quo to stay stable. Conservatives mess that up. They are still Pi^^ed at Regan. Mitt's "inevitability" is ALSO a myth of the Obama Campaign. They WANT Mitt. Just as with McCain, they push for Mitt because they believe they can beat him. That's also why the "media" wants Mitt. I admit I DON'T want Mitt. I didn't want McCain either. I'm not sure I want Cain either, but like him more than anyone else running. ( that I get to see. Paul fans have a point that he's ignored ) | ||
| Gregtonn |
"...you instantly label it as political fabrication..." Wrong. I said it was politically motivated. I did not say it was a fabrication. G | ||
| Fahren |
And I gave a very plausible scenario for these events which would - obviously - not be politically motivated. That was my point - sorry to have mis-quoted you on the details. | ||
| Rocketsprink |
"If he were a Democrat . . . this would not even had made it on the radar." Court, you are so full of shit it must be coming out of your ears. Remember John Edwards? |
