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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 05:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anybody notice the subtle differences in the logos for the new models?


2


RX has a long straight road, SX has what appears to be an intersection, AX is green behind the 'A'


What does it mean?

Speculate.
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Jumbo_petite
Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just a guess, But I say it's a teaser and they are getting closer to debut
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2008xb12scg
Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 05:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Race - Street - Adventure
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 05:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

greeenie meanie?.... Griffin ? !
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 06:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The AX is electric
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 06:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That was my first though too. Interesting times.
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Slaughter
Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ROCKS

SEX

AXE
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Kenm123t
Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Froggy you will have to have a apu for all your chipsets
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Billyo
Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 09:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How about a real ST? Is that too much to ask?!
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

RX = Sport Touring
SX = Naked
AX = Dual Sport
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Rpm4x4
Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 10:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree with ft bstrd
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Billyo
Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fatty - I hope you're right. While I was checking out the 1190RS at White's I was daydreaming about an ST version but the closest I've heard people talking about so far is "adventure".
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Road Cross (Cross between a sport bike and a touring bike)
Street Cross (Cross between a sport bike and a naked bike)
Adventure Cross (Cross between a sport bike and an adventure bike)
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Ourdee
Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 11:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rally race
Street
All-terain
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Friday, August 26, 2011 - 05:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

adventure cross 1190 ?.... definitely not the Griffen.

fat diabetic kid in a donut shop sad face.
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Panhead_dan
Posted on Friday, August 26, 2011 - 08:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why does this thread show Court as the last poster but there's no last post by him?
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Friday, August 26, 2011 - 08:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

oh hell, did he drop super secret information and then get clipped for it ?
damnit, thats what I get for taking a nap
grrs.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, August 26, 2011 - 08:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Happens a lot.

It's what happens when he posts the actual story and the erases it.

The faint whiff of the story smells like "remind me to tell you sometime".
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Friday, August 26, 2011 - 09:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court Canfield, "Remind me to tell you Sometime" Now available at Amazon, for Kindle, Nook, and Digital down load.

I would stand in line like a teen to see Justin Bieber to get ahold of those notes, stories, photos.

I suppose the story of the Griffen is about all I can get, since the bike seems dormant perpetually.
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Thumper74
Posted on Saturday, August 27, 2011 - 10:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Next time I'm in NYC, I need to fill Court up with BBQ and beer... So I can remind him to tell me.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Saturday, August 27, 2011 - 11:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Judging from the number of times I've seen that, I think Court second-guesses himself a lot.

"THERE!......(long pause) Ummmm, well, errr, maybe I better NOT say that..." [delete message]

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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Saturday, August 27, 2011 - 11:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My guess was an admonishment against such forceful statements as to the model type statements.

Since they are all WAGs, I can paint my dreams any color I want. : D
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Macdiver
Posted on Sunday, August 28, 2011 - 12:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So AX isn't am S&S air cooled model. Bummer
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Sunday, August 28, 2011 - 05:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

RX




SX




AX




Spot the odd one out.
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Ridenusa4l
Posted on Sunday, August 28, 2011 - 06:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i doubt fatty's theory becuase they NEED an AFFORDABLE sportbike to really make suit, i think it'll be this (we should just make a free survey or something lol):

RX- Sportbike

SX- Sport Touring or a naked sport bike

AX- Adventure bike/ dual sport/ dirtbike

but all of this is speculation of course....all i know is if i pay my 1125 off by the end of this year and they come out with a cheaper RS then a tough decision to make or whether or not i will take the plunge in another payment...

"these are exciting times!"

Jake
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Ratbuell
Posted on Sunday, August 28, 2011 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

R - think Firebolt (XB-R)
S - Lightning (XB-S)
A - adventure

Not to say the new models will be xb-style bikes, but I suspect they are keeping the R and S nomenclature. After all, they do mean "Race" and "Street"...low bars with a fairing, and naked bike with upright seating.

but that's just my guess...
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Slipknot
Posted on Sunday, August 28, 2011 - 10:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone care to speculate when we will see an adventure model?
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Videoninja
Posted on Monday, August 29, 2011 - 09:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thursday [\speculation]
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Lemonchili_x1
Posted on Monday, August 29, 2011 - 11:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thursday [\speculation]


Spot the odd one out.
Well it's obviously the 2-door SX ; )


Speculate? I love this game, nice to see it return : )

I'll take two guesses at what E-B-R are up to...

#1 - Three 1190 based modular bikes with a lot of common parts enabling instant model line up with all three released together, or at least within the one model year, as well as helping to keep prices down. Could be expanded to smaller engined derivatives in the future.
RX - Real world sportbike, looking similar to an RS, but slightly more comfortable ergos and more budget-conscious suspension etc.
SX - Naked streetbike, basically the RX minus fairing with tubular bars, but same tail section.
AX - Adventure/Sport, basically an SX with long travel suspension and tail section to accommodate passenger/hard bags.

#2 - Three new models, plus a revised RS, released over 2-3 years or more. May or may not be 1190 based...
RX - Like FB said, "Road Cross", a real world all-weather (full fairing) sport-touring bike, but more sport than tourer. Maybe 1190 based, maybe a big triple or V-four.
SX - The meanest, leanest, nastiest streetfighter ever seen. Somewhere around 170hp 1190 twin, full adjustable suspension, virtually no bodywork, just two wheels and an engine. It'll make the Ducati Streetfighter look as offensive as a Vespa.
AX - A is for Assault, as in Urban Assault. Think Adventure+Supermotard. Maybe V-twin, maybe a smaller and lighter single, but either way ideal for fire trails, dirt roads, sidewalks, and gutter jumping : D.
RS - MY2013 1190RS will be production-ised with Showa or Sachs suspension, series production motor etc, and a minor cosmetic makeover, priced somewhere around the same as an RC8R or S1000RR. Possible RSR model for racers/homologation.

(Alternate RX - Something I'd like to see, a 120hp-ish 890RS or similar : D )

There's another post floating around with some pics of the 1190RS's in E-B-R's showroom. It could mean nothing, but there is an 1125R, a Uly and an RS1200 in the same room...
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, August 29, 2011 - 11:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Given his history...I'd be surprised to see Erik bring a non-twin to market.

I've been wrong plenty of times in the past...but that's my take on things. IIRC my "25 Years" reading, he just likes (believes in?) the power and tractability of a twin too much.

I also think "variations on a theme" to be the smart way to go, at least for the time being. Common bones - again, think the XB family - with variations on seating, bodywork, and possibly displacement.
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