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Strokizator
Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 05:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

with apologys to Lenon/McCartney

Roll up, roll up for the misery tour.
Roll up AND THAT'S AN INVITATION, roll up for the misery tour.
Roll up TO MAKE A RESERVATION, roll up for the misery tour.
The magical misery tour is waiting to take you away,
Waiting to take you away.

Roll up, roll up for the misery tour.
Roll up, roll up for the misery tour.
Roll up WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING YOU NEED, roll up for the misery tour.
Roll up SATISFACTION GUARANTEED, roll up for the misery tour.
The magical misery tour is hoping to take you away,
Hoping to take you away.

Roll up, roll up for the misery tour.
Roll up, roll up for the misery tour.
Roll up AND THAT'S AN INVITATION, roll up for the misery tour.
Roll up TO MAKE A RESERVATION, roll up for the misery tour.
The magical misery tour is coming to take you away,
Coming to take you away.
The magical misery tour is dying to take you away,
Dying to take you away, take you away.

(Message edited by strokizator on August 16, 2011)
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Oldog
Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 06:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Mtjm2
Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 06:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When I read it !

Cuz you know were gunna get it !
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Pwnzor
Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 07:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 08:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You say you want a transformation
Well you know
We'd all want to change your world
You tell me that it's revolution
Well you know
We'd all wish to change your world
But when you talk about cooperation
Don't you know that you can count me out
Don't you know we just gonna blame the Right [x3]

I say WE got a real solution
Well you know
And y'all gonna have to wait to see the plan
You ask me for clarification
Well you know
Shut up, we're now the MAN
Cuz we want your money for redistribution
All I can tell you is brother, we'll get retribution
Don't you know it's gonna be hope
Don't ya know theres gonna be change

You say we ignore the Constitution
Well you know
to be honest we never even read it
You tell me it's the institution
Well you know
You better just blame Bush instead
But if we go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao
You gotta know its another contribution dinner in town
Don't you know we just gonna blame the right [x3]
The Right [x7]
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Lightstick
Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 09:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Will you be singing those lyrics in the Ukraine? I bet they'll love hearing them.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 09:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

do I really have to go line by line and find the press news releases where the President or his administration has done exactly what I said in that little ditty?

If you want to get mad about the song, tell the guy in the white house to quit living it

PS, cheer up, I wasnt a fan of Bush's TARP bend over efforts either.
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Lightstick
Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 09:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"do I really have to go line by line and find the press news releases where the President or his administration has done exactly what I said in that little ditty? "

Please do. Then make up a similar song about, say, Lenin or Stalin so you can sing it in your true heartland.
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Honolulu_blue_esq
Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 09:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Because reality is fun, I thought I'd point out that the Secret Service bought two of these buses so that they'd have one for Obama, Biden, the First Family, etc. and one for the Republican Candidate in the upcoming election.

They paid a Tennessee company 1.1 million per bus. Previously, they had no buses in the Secret Service fleet. When bus tours occurred (which have happened regularly over the last 35 years or so), they rented a standard bus, upfited it with armor, then took all the armor off when they were done to return the vehicle. The cost of doing so ran in he tens of thousands per month.

Sorry I didn't put that information in a song.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 10:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Surely . . someone will be doing a take off of "Oh Canada" as a tribute to the country the Secret Service BOUGHT these buses from.

My main main created some jobs, eh?
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Paint_shaker
Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

President Obama's election: Several Million I am sure

President's new bus so he can tour and push for more AMERICAN jobs: $1.1 Million

President's new bus made in Canada: PRICELESS!
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Fahren
Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 10:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm missing some info on this - if anyone knows about this stuff, can you please fill me in on:
Who makes tour buses in the US? This site:
http://www.motorbussociety.org/links/mfrs.html
has an interesting list - did the secret service send out any RFP's?
Are the Canadian buses a better product, or inferior?
Are the Canadian buses less expensive?
If they are less expensive but not inferior, should we subsidize a US bus manufacturer?
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Pwnzor
Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 10:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lightstick:

Have you served our country in any capacity, or have you merely served yourself?

Curious.
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Reindog
Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 10:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lightstick's published username is Rancid Veeblefester. That should tell you all you need to know about his troll-like behavior.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 10:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Only coach I've ever been familiar with is Newell.

I see they have a good used 2008 on sale for $999,000.

They aren't as nice as the current multi-million dollar rig . . but they are nice and made in Oklahoma.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 10:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know, Tom...

It was purely rhetorical. I expect nothing but pure Rancidness from Mr. Veeblefester.

Being as I've been an avid BBS user since my first 110bps half-duplex pulse dialer, I know all about creating sleeper troll accounts. I used to spend one Saturday a month weeding out fake users at The Anarchists' Underground and FBI PirateNet.

People like him are pathetic losers with nothing better to do than fling poop.
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oklahoma. Maybe they're not unionized? Can't give work to non union shops you know. Don't think for a minute that it wasn't part of the equation. Everything is political to a politician.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Original

The Imitation


Maybe you missed the point.
I HATE communism. I grew up with the "Better dead than Red" cold war. And I will not stand for the RED creeping menace that is oozing from Washington like an outstretching octopus.
is that clear enough for you ?
I would rather be in a third world country, that embraces capitalism, encourages investment, supports individual entreprenuership than an entitlement ridden, static born 'reform' that is going nowhere but to its own destruction.

which part did I stutter on ?

This administration and the machine that is backing it are all too bent on celebrating a transformative 100 year anniversary for Communism in the White House - they are on path with Lenin's creation of the Soviet, and his 'reform' of NEP.
but since you havent read it, you dont see it coming, and think I am a loon. To each his own - see you in five years - I like my odds overseas better.

Dissolution of the Duma (Creation of the Super Committee)
Seizing of Capital/Assets/Production (Clawback is coming - Remember the mantra "Give them the Wealth".... yep, it is loaded and ready- Gore likes Spring)
Reform of immigration status ( California just passed its Dream Act - National is on docket in under 5 years - hell you cant even call them illegal anymore, "American" will mean nothing - maybe a nice new 'garashdin' or worker citizen label will be appropriate. )
Freezing of National Capital Devaluation of the Currency (New notes are already on the table - under the guise of 'handicaple notes' watch when they are issued and the 'value' they have)
The Brother hood of Union Citizen Workers (SEIU has long been the mouth piece of this administration)
Forced economic planned production, distribution, consumption (Hello General Motors - Good morning Comrade)
Purges - Any opposition will be discredited, villified, hunted, persecuted, and eliminated ( we are at 2.3 of 5 - the purges are on the way - make no mistake)
The culling of 'family planning' (it will be your patriotic duty to produce workers to the new state - or in disparate perversions - not too; in any case, the gov't will meddle and mandate its schitzophrenia to your 'family' unit)

Go read Lenin's "What is to be Done".
because they have. DAMHIK.
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Notpurples2
Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bachman and Palin (and likely others) use Prevost buses which are made in Canadian by Volvo. Pres. Bush also had a Prevost bus back in 2004.

I too wish he would have picked an American made bus but considering the modifications that needed to be made it might not have been feasible. All information points to the modifications being done here in the US. So at the very least the money for that (which could be as much or more than the cost of the buses) stayed at home.

It's just sad how even this is spun to demonize the president. When in reality they are most likely saving money in the long run by buying these buses rather than having to rent them and modify and then un-modify every 4 years.

(Message edited by notpurples2 on August 17, 2011)
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Geforce
Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 01:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If I were the CIC... I would have signed a Buffalo over from a unit that didn't need it for a few months, like a mod 1 or 2... made sure the PMCS was up to date, rattled canned a slogan on the side and called it a day.

That thing is big enough to be a bus, heck add some roll on window tint from a local Wal-Mart, a CB radio and satellite dish... and you got yourself an armored transport with A/C and a V-Shaped hull... plus, I hear it is/was a transformer in the movie anyways.
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Xbniner
Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Last night I met a secret service agent in the advance guard that is scouting ahead.

Pretty cool guy, but it was funny- he was telling people he met that he worked for a hotel chain and was in town for business.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 02:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>Last night I met a secret service agent in the advance guard that is scouting ahead.

Aren't they wonderfully delightful folks? . . . . Polite, good looking, well educated, worldly, fit, smart and healthy?

: )

Did he offer you a "we don't elect'em . . we just protect'em" t-shirt?
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Moxnix
Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>It's just sad how even this is spun to demonize the president.

Oh, please. Obama demonizes us. We demonize him. It's how the game works.
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 02:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Polite, good looking, well educated, worldly, fit, smart and healthy?"

You forgot modest : )
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Crusty
Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 02:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is sad. This attitude is what's driven a lot of people away from Badweb.
I don't like Obama. I didn't vote for him, and won't vote to re-elect him. However, he is our president. I don't believe he's even 10% the enslaving tyrant that he is portrayed to be on this forum.
I don't see, nor have I heard anything from him that has "Demonized" us (Uh; who are "us" anyhow?).
I mean, it's not like he lied to the American people, Congress, the United Nations, and the rest of the world about how he had "Positive Proof" that a dictator of a foreign country was developing stockpiles of Weapons of Mass Destruction; and used that as an excuse to invade a country that was no threat to us whatsoever.
Now that would be something to get pissed off about.
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 03:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That would indeed be something to be pissed off about. Too bad it isn't true.
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Honolulu_blue_esq
Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 03:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hootowl: Which part of it isn't true?
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Fahren
Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 03:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wouldn't say it isn't true - I'd say it doesn't go deep enough. You have to go farther back, to when the CIA put Saddam Hussein in power, or later, during the Reagan years, when Rumsfeld was hired as a special envoy to Iraq to improve relations and make sure Iraq had all the weapons it needed to defeat Iran (including approving chemical and biological weapons material, that we knew at the time he was using against Iranians and Kurds.... but somehow, it was convenient at the time not to be too concerned over Saddam's possession and use of WMD.... hmmm).

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/12/31/world/ma in534798.shtml

and just for fun:
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 03:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The meat of it.

"I mean, it's not like he lied to the American people, Congress, the United Nations, and the rest of the world about how he had "Positive Proof" that a dictator of a foreign country was developing stockpiles of Weapons of Mass Destruction; and used that as an excuse to invade a country that was no threat to us whatsoever."

Being wrong isn't lying.

Saddam actively supported terrorist attacks.

He had and used chemical weapons, and could not account for their destruction.

He was intentionally trying to appear to the world as if he had these weapons in order to keep Iran at bay. The only liars in this debacle were the Iraqis. We have intercepts of his scientists confirming to him that they were cranking out chemical weapons. We know now that they were lying in order to save themselves from Saddam's wrath. Saddam could continue to put on this show for the Iranians because he 'knew' that the US would never invade. He was shocked when we did because France (could have been Germany, I don't remember) had told him flat out that they would never authorize UN action, and would use their veto vote to make sure it never did. This has been debated to death on this forum. I know you're relatively new here. There are tons of posts with links to news articles and UN weapons inspection reports that will corroborate everything I just said.

Some (not you) won't look at the evidence, but would rather continue to believe a falsehood because it suits their preconception that Bush is the devil.
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Strokizator
Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 03:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In all fairness to Prevost, they assemble/build the chassis, body and drivetrain. Other companies (most likely US based) then convert them into custom motorcoaches (after $1 million it's no longer a motorhome).
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