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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2011 - 08:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Brumbear, I get your point, I think. Difficult to articulate.

Kenm123t. Not to criticize, but the "virgin" thing? It's not the deal.
In islamic heaven you are attended by houris. ( No, NOT whores ) They are angelic beings, perfect of form and voice, and eternally virginal and perfect. You also may eat of forbidden foods, and never be sick or get fat. ( P-butter & Bacon with Banana sandwiches are a-ok ) Drugs and alcohol are also ok, and you never have a hangover, or suffer from ED. In short, a 14 yr old's heaven. ( with serious tweaking from old, sick, fat men, who wish they were still 14. ) The heaven of my faith differs a bit. But I'm not knocking theirs.

Just trying to keep it real. Stupid stereotypes that are not true reduce your ability to reason. That's what they are for. ( Did I catch your point in this limited sense, Brumbear? )

Also, re: virgin shortage. In Iranian Prisons, condemned women are raped by the guards before execution so they don't go to heaven virgin. Adding Insult to Injury is a way of life for evil men.
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Kenm123t
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2011 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Either way they are training thier children to kill themselves while killing you for Allah.
What should we do once they have nucs and start useing them ?
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Blake
Posted on Friday, April 08, 2011 - 10:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>> Most of the folks in these countries eat a plate of dirt a day.

You are misinformed.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2011 - 01:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm completely happy leaving them to be as batt shit crazy as they want to be. It's when they start threatening the rest of the world that crazy has to end.

Currently, Islamic leadership is seeking to bring about the return of the 12th Imam.

It's batt shit crazy on steroids.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2011 - 08:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sayitaintso,
The original line was "kill them all, God will know his own." A translation.

From the latin. "Caedite eos! Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius" or ( per wiki ) "Kill them [all]! Surely the Lord discerns which [ones] are his".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albigensian_Crusade

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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, April 09, 2011 - 09:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

up the ante.... Nuke em until they glow and shoot them in the dark.

damnit where did I put that Tshirt?
It was right next to the
USMC Travel to exotic countries, Meet foreign people, and kill them.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2011 - 08:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was kinda hoping to avoid the "glass parking lot" solution.

I rather prefer the pinpoint abilities of something like Thor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_bombardment

Destroying a palace, without turning the city around it into a firestorm, seems more useful in winning "hearts and minds" than detonating a megaton bomb over a city of people that just want to eat & get laid. ( the first is an issue because religious fanatics here want to turn food into fuel, the second is an issue because the religious fanatics there have serious sex hangups )

Besides, we need to keep the nukes to deflect planet killing comets and asteroids. ( Fighting religious radicals in the streets of our cities would be less damaging than mile high tsunamis and plasma fronts a thousand miles across. I do admit that being beheaded kills you just as surely )

Good ideas?

My Mother's idea for Afghanistan is to roll into a village, take all the guns from the men, and give them to the women.

I instantly had the vision...."Ok ladies! Sgt. Trixie here will take you all out back and teach you to shoot! All together Now!, This is my Rifle, there are many like it but this one is mine.... "

That's the kind of change I can believe in.

Of course, I'm a women's libber. I'd send NOW to Afghanistan. That't teach them.
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2734
Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2011 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>> Most of the folks in these countries eat a plate of dirt a day.

>>>>>>>>>>>You are misinformed.


Im sorry you missed the obvious sarcasm.

And becuase I was unable to post this in response to your :
>>>>>>>>"They dont know any better? Explain please"

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=024_1302432325

This little one will never have a chance to understand the world outside her own border.

And this proves that there are indeed people in Arab countries who have better minds than you give them credit for mixed among the complete morons that occupy the same space.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjcevVwh6ww



(Message edited by 273-4 on April 10, 2011)
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Kenm123t
Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2011 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Navy is testing the new laser cannon. a lttle big for a plane at that power level
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, April 10, 2011 - 09:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

2734,
So, Mom was Right?

Time to change our strategy.
Time for Womens Liberation In Islamoland.
Time for Sgt. Trixie!
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2734
Posted on Monday, April 11, 2011 - 09:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aesquire, sorta LoL
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2011 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So we have 2 suggestions. ( that are not "glass parking lot" )

1. hit hard, eliminate leadership, and be ruthless enough to hold the problems off for a generation. ( worked about that long for the Soviets? )

2. Womens lib. Arm the women, destroy the patriarchal culture. ( 24 hour Xena, Buffy, Dark Angel marathons on sat tv? Yeah! )

anyone else?
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2011 - 12:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1377124/Ca meron-Obama-Sarkozy-Libya-We-wont-stop-bombing-Gad dafis-gone.html

Can't help thinking that bombing Gaddafi would accelerate the process. Save a lot of civilian lives too. But perhaps that's not the point at all.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2011 - 05:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/264546/yes- libya-not-iraq-victor-davis-hanson
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Sifo
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2011 - 06:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm going to throw this in here just because I really don't want to start up an anti-BO thread. Forgive me for being a bit off topic (or am I?).

Obama Disappointed With Lack of 'Cool' Phone in Oval Office

In 2012 can we please elect someone who has actually seen a phone in a business office so that he knows what to expect!
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 09:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/21/obama-has-okd -use-of-drones-in-libya-gates-says/

makes sense to me. Not a lot does about this war.

Sifo, I can actually understand Barry's disappointment in the lack of high tech displays that roll down from the ceiling.

Someone who knows so little about America would never think that the White House is a real old shack. The reason most of the rooms in the WH are small is they had no central heating back then. The big ball rooms were never used in winter unless you had lots of people to fill the space with body heat.

I suppose they haven't shown him the underground lair....... Dick Cheney might still live there.....
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, April 26, 2011 - 10:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1380364/Li bya-Gaddafis-troops-rape-children-young-eight.html ?ITO=1490

Tell me again why we don't want to stop him?
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, May 02, 2011 - 07:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.slate.com/id/2292067/
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 07:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

odd. I'm still waiting for all those guys who know better than the President ( Bush, Regan, Obama, whatever ) on how to, and if to fight a war...... Give suggestions on how to handle Libya?
Afghanistan?

(Message edited by aesquire on May 06, 2011)
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, May 06, 2011 - 07:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Holy crap. I play in the middle ages. These guys live there.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/05/ahmadi nejad-allies-charged-with-sorcery
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2011 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/266778/dark -night-islam-michael-knox-beran

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/266912/kill ing-and-grilling-andrew-c-mccarthy

Opinions perhaps worth considering.

Syria is working up to a civil war. Asad is a bit of a an Iranian puppet... or so some believe. It's more complex than that. He's the leader of a warrior tribe that rules a country where his tribe is a small minority. Somewhat like Iraq under Saddam. He has his own motivations beyond Iran's wishes for regional domination and desire to be the heart of the Caliphate.

Note Iran's people and leaders consider themselves Persian, an ancient folk with a glorious past who have been the overlords of much of the region, and still think of themselves as top dog. ( and racially superior, and no kin to Asad )

Civil War in Iran as well. One may ask "If it's 2 groups of islamist nutjobs fighting each other, what do we care?" I respond, "What do we get no matter who wins?" the answer is, of course, islamist nutjobs.

I'm not sure how to support the actual citizens of Iran ( or Syria ) who want an actual republic so they can go on with their lives and drink good coffee. There's the problem of any aid from us being from the Great Satan. That may poison the good guys in the eyes of the common (and uncommitted to politics ) guys.

Any ideas?
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 08:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/us-helicopter-pakist ani-military-exchange-fire-border/story?id=1362132 9

How many wars we got going, now??


( I'm thinking 2. )
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 09:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

we have 6.3 million people sitting in prisons .... make Afghanistan the new 'Australia' and deport any 'border challenge transgressor' as well. that should give another 14-38 Million recruits depending on who you listen to.

Open the cargo doors, have at boys, the country is yours, dont ever darken the US shores again.

Any weapon they use will have to be found in country. It is the Vin Diesel 'XXX' option ; ) "Diner Winners"
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Cataract2
Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2011 - 01:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I love how the talk is whither or not Pakistan is our ally.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2011 - 12:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pakistan our ally? sometimes more than others.....

There are people at the highest levels of the secret police and government in Pakistan who are using the perversion of faith that is jihad as a weapon in their ongoing struggle against India. There is a deep strain of shared faith that is heavily influenced by the wahabist Saudi cult, and tribal lands close to Afghanistan have the most primitive and radical tribes. Simple geography. higher in the hills you go, crazier they get. Just like here.

Some of the leaders want their land to grow in wealth and advance into the planetary community as equals.... they get killed pretty quick though.

Anyway, they want our money, we want to keep a handle, however tenuous, on Pakistans nuclear arsenal, and want passage for supplies for Afghanistan. Realpolitic sucks.

It'd be nice if we could talk them into not letting people support the taliban, but since that would reduce their supply of crazy people to use as weapons, I wouldn't hold your breath.

I admit, my idea of anti-terrorism action isn't Bush's, or Obama's. I'd simply tell the leaders of countries that support terrorism to stop or we will remove them from power. Then do so. Not occupy, not nation build, not shock and awe. Just remove the leaders, no matter where or who they hide behind. Eventually you have to get rational people in charge. I admit it has flaws, and I'm open to suggestions.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2011 - 09:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've only one thing to say about the "Arab Spring" that is going on.

"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss"
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 - 09:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.jerrypournelle.com/reports/jerryp/galli poli.html

Worth a read.

Still awaiting some good ideas.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 - 10:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/05/22/officials- militants-attack-pakistani-navy-base/
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, June 03, 2011 - 06:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jun/3/bip artisan-congress-rebuffs-obama-libya-mission/

Minutes after approving Mr. Boehner’s measure, the House defeated an even more strongly-worded resolution offered by Rep. Dennis Kucinich, Ohio Democrat, that would have insisted the president begin a withdrawal of troops.

Most lawmakers said that was too rash at this point, and said they wanted to give Mr. Obama time to comply. Some also said immediate withdrawal would leave U.S. allies in the lurch.


I agree that leaving our allies in the lurch after getting this war on Libya going is a cowardly act and not acceptable.

I also make a judgment on Rep. Kucinich's character that he would not like. Does "petulant child with no thought for others" apply here? I could be wrong. He could just be so antiwar he doesn't care who gets killed. ( yeah, I know that's insane. )

So, any thoughts on saving the poor people of Libya? The News doesn't even seem to cover it. Is Gaddafi just killing reporters?
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Cowboy
Posted on Friday, June 03, 2011 - 06:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Who gives a damn both are our enemy.
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