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Ourdee
| | Posted on Monday, May 30, 2011 - 01:21 am: | 
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One of my first tickets was for passing on a dub yellow in my 69 C-10. Cop passed on the same dub yellow to give me the ticket. I had an open bag of cement in the bed with some cardboard folded over it. Poor cop opened it up with a 25 mph wind. His blues were white.
When I lived over seas I was allowed to do things that can get me a ticket here. Filtering should be legal everywhere! |
Steeleagle
| | Posted on Monday, May 30, 2011 - 02:12 am: |
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I have yet to see/read a law that has an exemption or exception that would cover either of the following:
"...unless you think the law is stupid for any reason"
"...unless you think the law just doesn't apply to you because of your perceived superhuman skills and judgment"
I will also submit that for any situation that places you in a position where you have reasonable time to make a decision, a decision that WON'T break a law is available that would avoid a rider/driver being ticketed.
If you don't like the speed limit or the location of double yellows, so be it. I don't like them all either. But guys like me have an expectation that every other driver and rider out there is going to follow those laws. I kinda gives me SOME basis by which my actions are planned.
Don't misunderstand: I ride like every other vehicle out there is being operated by the worst drivers/riders in the world, AKA defensively, like I'm invisible, etc. Reading this and other threads validates my need to do so.
...and like some previous posters said: You do the crime, you do the time. But these threads have a scary number of people who will get ticketed and will then try and get out of being held responsible for an act they admittedly are guilty of committing. |
Pragmatic
| | Posted on Monday, May 30, 2011 - 02:56 am: |
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It is not illegal to pass on the double yellow in every state. Most states it is but AFAIK it is allowed in VT.
My reading of VT traffic law (non-lawyer and I have heard this it true but have not tested it in court) is that the double yellow is the same as a yellow speed sign for a corner. Exceeding that speed (in the case of the corner caution sign) or passing (where there is a double yellow) and you assume all responsibility for the consequences if anything goes wrong.
There are sections of road in VT that have No Passing signs. I have seen these state "End No Passing Zone" where the double yellow continues.
The vehicle code in VT reads exactly like the code in NYS and PA (and I do mean exactly, word for word) except for the one sentence that identifies Double Yellows as a requirement not a suggestion. Again I'm no lawyer and I have not tested this in court, but I also know I am not the only one who reads this this way. |
Vtpeg
| | Posted on Monday, May 30, 2011 - 05:55 am: |
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Prag, true story. Green mtn state double yellow is only a suggestion, except where posted "no passing", corners, hills, intersections, and bridges. Same as yellow speed signs. An oversize tractor trailer might want to think about a corner going 35 in a posted 50, but a bike, no way. Same is true of passing. I can pass a manure spreader on a double yellow, where a tractor trailer may want to think twice. Common sense is the key. I frequent NYS roads and always hope I don't get nabbed passing on a double yellow, but will plead ignorance when I do! |
Iamike
| | Posted on Monday, May 30, 2011 - 09:04 am: |
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I hate these kinds of threads. Brings out all the "I have/would never do that!" folks.
I guess it was more cycle related than the anti-Obama/union threads.
I do agree with you though, I don't think that I have ever ridden with another biker that didn't violate at least one law. If I did I didn't stick around with them long.
I just think the laws were written to work with the average driver in the average situation/weather conditions. It stinks when you are out in the middle of nowhere with no traffic and you get a ticket for doing 10 over.
BTW- on that video - I bet bubba has ridden his 4-wheeler on the paved road a time or two. |
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