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Xdigitalx
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 08:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thank you Mr. George W. Bush and Mr. Dick Cheney and Mr. Donald Rumsfeld. If it wasn't for Waterboarding, this day may not have happened. And a special thanks to Obama for being a Republican for a day.
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Moxnix
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 09:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Bartender, give me a Bin Laden!"
"Huh ?"
"Two shots and a splash of water"
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Drkside79
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 10:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And how exactly did Obama take credit for their work Cowboy? I watched the speech and he gave them all their due multiple times.


He took credit for what he did. He read the reports and made the decision. Which i might add is what he was supposed to do.

I personally applaud them all from the POTUS to the soldiers on the ground. The soldiers and the intel peeps are the true hero's but the President acted correctly as well.
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Cowboy
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Xdigitalx read my mind and said it correctily. he(obama) should not get high marks on thier backs. (reread his post above)
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 11:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Did BO give credit to the actions that lead to this intelligence info? I don't think so. He has been steadfast against the policies that gave us this intelligence info. It's true that BO did make the decision to take this action, but as was discussed earlier, there seems to be agreement that it was a no-brainer decision. The only difficult part of this decision would have been the fact that we were doing military operations inside the borders of a sovereign country that we are not at war with. Given the fact that BO has been doing this without receiving any flack for over 2 years now, this one mission doesn't seem to be a difficult decision either given the unique objective.

I'm not convinced that a Republican administration could have conducted military operations in Pakistan without receiving opposition from the Democrats and the MSM.
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Sayitaintso
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm not convinced that a Republican administration could have conducted military operations in Pakistan without receiving opposition from the Democrats and the MSM.

So you're saying you think its a good thing we have a Dem in the White House?

(Sorry, I couldn't resist, I know I should have, but you set yourself up so well I just couldn't)
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Credit where credit is due. Bush got things lined up and heading the right direction, and when it was time for Obama to finish the job, he did it.

I say thanks to both of them.
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Strokizator
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 12:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I, for one, am happy to give Obama credit for this operation. He is after all the commander in chief. There was no guarantee that this wouldn't turn out like the Jimmy Carter fiasco in the desert which would have sealed his fate in the next election.

I am happy that, at the end of the day, the president realizes this is a dangerous world has has taken appropriate steps.

There are lots of things I disagree with but I am happy to give him props for this one. It was a good move for America.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 12:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There was no guarantee that this wouldn't turn out like the Jimmy Carter fiasco

I would bet a testicle... a fiasco like that will never happen again
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 01:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So you're saying you think its a good thing we have a Dem in the White House?

I would just be happy with just a bit of balance in the political speech from those in power. That would be the press as well as elected officials.
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 01:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just as a hypothetical example of where speech should be more balanced... We saw what was said when there were unfounded accusations of levees being blown up to protect a mostly white community while sacrificing a mostly black community. Of course this didn't really happen. What kind of outrage would you expect from the press and politicians if the situation was reversed under a black President? Did I say hypothetical? http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110503/ap_on_re_us/us _severe_weather_flooding
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Sayitaintso
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 01:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would just be happy with just a bit of balance in the political speech from those in power. That would be the press as well as elected officials.


Hell yea....and making decisions based on whats best for the country rather than whats most likely to help him/her get re-elected.
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Moxnix
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cairo, Il, has a huge facility for Bunge North America "big agriculture." Better lobbyist than MO bootheel dirt farmers.
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 01:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I sure hope there are plans to compensate those dirt farmers very well. I'm not sure this is the way to pick winners and losers. I'm not a big fan of government picking winners and losers in any situation.
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Crackhead
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The only reason why the farm land was so fertile is bc the Mississippi was allowed to flood the land freely for hundreds of years.

All of the towns should be relocated above the flood level and all of the levees should be taken down.

You can't stop mother nature. Ask any New Orleans resident.
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 01:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BTW...

Wyatt,MO - 90% white, 7 % black. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyatt,_Missouri,}

Cairo, IL - 36% white, 62% black. http://www.americantowns.com/il/cairo-information# data

Just sayin'.
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Boltrider
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 02:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They missed an opportunity to put some Saudi crude to good use.
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Moxnix
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 02:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cairo is a sad looking place. No telling how many dollars in improvements a good flood would accomplish.
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Sayitaintso
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 03:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do you guys think they will release the photos of dead Osama?

how about the video (thats been reported to exist) of the double tap that took him out...one to the head, one to the chest?
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 03:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I hope they play it on a continual loop on the all new WOD Network


watch osama die network
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Reindog
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Obama made a gutsy decision. The Clinton response was to launch cruise missiles which harms no Americans but has unpredictable results including civilian casualties. The Carter response was Desert One and not well thought out. Obama's response was the correct one even though it could have easily failed. It almost did.

Obama done good. With a little help from his friends: Seal Team 6 and President George W. Bush.

It brings satisfaction knowing that the last person Osama saw was an American.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 04:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

real or fake?




(Message edited by Ferris_von_bueller on May 03, 2011)
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Drkside79
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 05:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fake. Very fake and possibly dangerous. People have been imbedding those pics and fake videos with viruses so be wary of what you look at in regards to this type of stuff
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Reindog
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 05:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That is old as the hills fake. Photoshopped from a popular photo of OBL wearing a turban.
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 05:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Obama made a gutsy decision. The Clinton response was to launch cruise missiles which harms no Americans but has unpredictable results including civilian casualties. The Carter response was Desert One and not well thought out. Obama's response was the correct one even though it could have easily failed. It almost did.

Obama done good. With a little help from his friends: Seal Team 6 and President George W. Bush.


Honestly, what other decision could have been made and not be called a "good" decision? No doubt the generals told him that this was Plan A, B & C... Pick one.

It brings satisfaction knowing that the last person Osama saw was an American.



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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 08:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That pic is fake.
There is some confusion as to the details of the Osama raid, partly because this admin, and other politicians are trying to make points, and some of them ( who, I leave for you to judge ) don't have a clue.

Others are simply lying.

Imam's are threatening the end of us "dogs" who brought down the Lion of Islam.

In several discussions I have heard different takes.

I disagree with many of the announcements made by the admin. Some, I doubt the factual nature. I could be far less polite.

To be clear, some is political haze from the uncoordinated nature of this admin. While they are excellent at getting almost all the news shows to parrot the talking point of the day, they seem incompetent to stay on message internally. They really are full of crap.

Some I think unwise, such as announcing we got an intel coup by taking computers and files from Osama's home. I see no good coming from that warning to our enemies. It has to be pure electioneering. I find that reprehensible. Not Yet on a par with Bill Clinton's destroying our cell phone monitoring effort, but incompetent to the point of impeachable.

Slick Willie's brag that ruined a massive intel effort, was itself reason to impeach the *(&^, not simply lies about affairs, IMHO.

Unfortunately, the Prez has within his power to declassify many things at whim. So it was NOT impeachable for Bill to use that info to try and improve his poll numbers. Just wrong. Venal. Slimy.

While I'm ranting, if GW Bush had decapitated Iran's govt. when it first became clear they were supporting the terrorists, it would be a much safer world.

And. If FDR or Truman has listened to Patton, the Soviet Union would have been defeated, the Cold War would never have happened, Russia and China would be free nations, and about a billion people would not have been murdered.

Thanks for letting me vent.
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Joshinga
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 09:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)





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Moxnix
Posted on Tuesday, May 03, 2011 - 11:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Al-Qaida pulled off the Sept. 11 attacks for somewhere in the vicinity of $500,000, according to the final report of the 9/11 Commission.

By the end of fiscal 2011, the US government will have spent $1.26 trillion fighting the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, estimates the Center for Defense Information. A total equal to nearly 9% of the national debt. There is no way to monetize the human costs of either 9/11 or this past decade in our response to it.

It is at least worth considering, therefore, that if the enemy is a culturally sub-evolved, cave-dwelling fanatic running scared from the world's largest and most effective military machine, the US needs to reconsider cultivating a more profitable old fashioned human network in addition to all the high tech gizmos and PhD analysts.

I'm no lefty, just a burned out Yankee Weltbummler with foggy memories of various offshore appointments of a contractual nature.
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 09:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Those costs are BS. The Pentagon would have spent almost as much money had we not ever been there. Peacetime budgets are in the hundreds of billions annually. We're going through more ammo now, and that's about it.
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99savage
Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2011 - 09:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ANYBODY KNOW?

Who flew the Seal Team to their destination?

Doubt it was the Navy, they are trained to navigate long distances, over trackless ocean, hunting subs & ships, not to fly nape of the earth over mountains.

Leaves Army, Air Force or Marines.
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