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99savage
Posted on Saturday, April 23, 2011 - 04:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Going to rent a U-Haul trailer to take the Ulysses to way upp'a US for some service.
U-Haul says a 4 wire flat plug needed.



Being a basic guy, got a basic connector



No problem connecting the trun signal wires.
Now the question:
The bulbs are 2 filament bulbs.



Seems like whichever way the remaining wire is connected the result will be either no brake lights or no tail lights.
The instructions have less information than my foot.

ADVICE

(Message edited by 99Savage on April 23, 2011)
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Pwnzor
Posted on Saturday, April 23, 2011 - 04:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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99savage
Posted on Saturday, April 23, 2011 - 05:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks, got that much figured out
BUT
There are separate wires for the brake light filament (green, or is it blue, wire - furthest right in the pix)& the tail light filament (brown wire).

Ditto the other, middle, bulb, 2 filaments again. The brown wire is for for tail light (have 2 tail lights per side) & the yellow wire is for turn signal.

Could splice in & connect yellow & brown wires together & run to the yellow wire in the connector.

If I do that seems like turn signal filament will always be on - Not sure if flasher will work.
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Just_ziptab
Posted on Saturday, April 23, 2011 - 05:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Brake and turn signals are the same wire in standard configuration(depending on the vehicle).Green=right,yellow=left. When you step on the brakes,it lights up BOTH turn signal bulbs.
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Just_ziptab
Posted on Saturday, April 23, 2011 - 05:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You really shouldn't butcher up your vehicle harness...........future corrosion could rot the wire connections with those Scotch locks. Most(?) vehicles have a dead end harness connector or a union that you can simply "plug in" a correct application trailer harness.
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99savage
Posted on Saturday, April 23, 2011 - 06:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just_ziptab:
Nope
* Step on brake & one filament of top bulb lights
* Turn on signal one filament of middle bulb lights

When done w/ this trip will probably remove connectors & tape up the wires.

Looked all over town & on the internet, could not find a simple plug in - Or maybe I just do not understand - Seems like there should be one, the wiring harnesses to the lights have plugs

Right now off to Lowes to get some wire - Will try connecting brake light wire to the turn signal wire & see what happens.
Then both will be on @ the same time @ least on that side
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Nik
Posted on Saturday, April 23, 2011 - 07:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you have separate brake and turn signals you need a trailer wiring adapter.

something like this: http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accessories/Reese -Tail-light-converter-with-60-in-wire-and-4-way-co nnector/_/N-262o?counter=0&itemIdentifier=182754_0 _0_
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99savage
Posted on Saturday, April 23, 2011 - 08:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Nik
Appears to be what I should have bought -
None in stock locally & due to pick up trailer PM on the 26th.
Should not have dawdled like this but this used to be such a simple task.

Anybody aware of any disasters that await if I connect the brake light to the turn signal wire of the connector w/ a short jumper?

Seems like the worst that could happen would be anemic lights on one side. But then again don't understand modern, automotive electronics.

This is a beer can, planning on a one time, one day, 200 mile use only.

And, oh yeh, thanks all & a joyous Easter
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Saturday, April 23, 2011 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

stop in at Uhaul they have them. and yeah a converter is what you need as you ahve a 5-wire system in your vehicle
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Doz
Posted on Saturday, April 23, 2011 - 09:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They also have an adapter for the bargman 7 pin found on most trucks, but you probably don't have one (bargman plug)
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Just_ziptab
Posted on Saturday, April 23, 2011 - 09:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

* Step on brake & one filament of top bulb lights
* Turn on signal one filament of middle bulb lights

OK,your vehicle it TOO new for my old school education.At least you have wires to work with. Some of the new stuff has ..........like 22 ga wires ........or worse,the printed circuit type harness.........those just suck.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Sunday, April 24, 2011 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you got the harness at U-haul, go back and tell them what your vehicle is. They should get you the RIGHT harness.
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Ohsoslow
Posted on Sunday, April 24, 2011 - 03:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

dont jumper it, it will back feed through out the system. i.e. if you hit the brakes the turn signals will come on on your car
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Bandm
Posted on Sunday, April 24, 2011 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As Zip said these are cheaper than the cost to repair a scotchloc damaged harness, or a ticket for no lights, plus they install in about 30 seconds. What's your time worth?

http://www.hopkinstowingsolutions.com/products/veh icle_wiring_kits/
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Sunday, April 24, 2011 - 04:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All 7 pin here, but if your vehicle is OBD compliant you'll probably need the correct harness for it.

Many cars & trucks built since 2000 have a socket built into the wiring loom at the rear somewhere so that you can plug & play for whichever set up your market requires.

It's definitely worth calling your dealer's tech dept to check before hacking the loom.

Also, you may create diagnostic problems due to the changing resistance values in the system.

That's modern auto electronics for you.
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