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Aesquire
| | Posted on Saturday, June 04, 2011 - 09:52 pm: | 
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Cowboy, are you saying Gaddafi and the reporters are both our enemy? ( I'm not disagreeing, mind you, just astonished you'd say it. ) 
I never believed the Russian people wanted to kill me. The leaders had a buncha nukes aimed at my house when I was younger and I had no doubt they wanted to kill me. I figured the guys in the Kremlin didn't know I existed except as a statistic, don't think I'm paranoid. I lived next door to Offut. SAC hq.
Likewise...I don't think the Libyan "people" suck. Other than the current major cultural conflict where "radical islam" seeks to enslave the world. That's not the peasants getting shelled fault.
Some interesting definitions.
http://www.lts.com/~cprael/Meade_FAQ.htm |
Aesquire
| | Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2011 - 09:42 am: |
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Yemen.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2011/06/2 01164164346765100.html
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=1 3764342
Libya.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110605/ap_on_re_us/li bya_russia
Pakistan.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/06/04/pakist an.jihadist.killed/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
Syria.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43266053/ns/world_news -mideast_n_africa
http://www.france24.com/en/20110604-syria-middle-e ast-protesters-killed-after-funerals-activist-says
Remember that shooting up a crowd at a funeral is SOP in islamic lands. It's like the terrorist tactic of planting bombs with delays to get emergency crews as they rush to a first bomb blast site.
USA.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/al-qaeda-video-buy-a utomatic-weapons-start-shooting/story?id=13704264
Edit: Adam the traitor is wrong in multiple facts on gun control laws in the US. His lies perfectly parallel those of anti second amendment types. Want the truth, ask.
On a lighter note.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1394099/Ob ama-eats-2-chili-dogs-fries-day-wife-Michelle-unve ils-new-dietary-guide.html ( the "do as I say, don't do as I do" attitude is not unique to the Obama's, leftists, or even bad parents. It is however a trademark, IMHO ...
While I have a negative emotional reaction to authoritarian hypocritical self appointed elites, the food pyramid probably IS better replaced with a pie chart in todays powerpoint culture. BUT If you didn't understand the food pyramid.... you shouldn't have reproduced. )
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Aesquire
| | Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2011 - 06:35 pm: |
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http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/20 11/06/o-humpty-obumpty-and-the-arab-spring-it-will -get-worse-fast.html |
Aesquire
| | Posted on Monday, June 06, 2011 - 09:05 am: |
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100014240527023044 74804576366973385341118.html?mod=WSJ_hp_MIDDLETopS tories
Planned invasions of Israel in advance of the UN vote to create a Palestine. Not helped by Obama's change in US policy toward Israel. Quite a bit is Syria's ruling clan leader trying to distract world press about his slaughtering his own people.
Odd. I expect exteeeme hypocrisy from leftists. I Expect Dems to accuse Reps of stuff the Dems do to distract the public. I am amused that a Dem can start a war and get little flack from the press and leftist types.
It's not the old days when the lefties protested LBJ ( nearly as much as Nixon... if less organized by the KGB ) for Vietnam.
But where's Code Pink? Where's the fringe antiwar guys who even protested Clinton during Monica's War? Is the Koolaid Sooooo good that NO one cares if we bomb people and things escalate into multi nation war?
Does no one have a good idea on how to keep the entire mid-east from becoming a nuclear and oil armed religious dictatorship which has already promised to kill you, the infidels?
( at this point, all we got is "glass parking lot", "womens lib, AK styling", ( my current fave ) and "hope to see you on the barricades" when sharia becomes US law. Really like a better idea guys! ) |
Aesquire
| | Posted on Monday, June 06, 2011 - 01:56 pm: |
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http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/watch-nra- heads-explode-al-qaeda-spo
Lies. Falsehoods. Communist propaganda.
To the ignorant. Assault rifles require both a federal permit, with a full and thorough FBI investigation. They also require a tax for each transfer, and Federal registration of each guns transfer. No one buys them at gun shows without a background check. ( and the terrorists that guns were sold to are probably the ones sold by direct instructions of the BATFE in their program to ..... well, honestly, to justify politicians lies. )
I note with no sarcasm that both the rulers of dictatorships and idiots who wear Che t-shirts will agree with the falsehoods in this article.
( why are you an idiot? because Che was a mass murderer, a racist who hated black people, and when he got into a position of power... murdered even more people. His opinion of upper middle class yuppie scum...the ones who wear t-shirts with Che on them....was that they were useful tools to gain power, and then rob and murder when power is achieved. As he did. Idiots. )
Funniest...and scariest... part of that article is that the call to slaughter them isn't even an issue with the dipSh!*s who wrote it. |
Aesquire
| | Posted on Thursday, June 09, 2011 - 05:47 am: |
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And.... War#4.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/09/world/middleeast /09intel.html?_r=1&hp
( with the exception of the "Arab Spring" war in Libya, this really is just another front in a planetary conflict that will not end for some time. Unless, perhaps, this admin gets a complete change of heart and admits who and what we are at war with. Not holding breath. ) |
Aesquire
| | Posted on Thursday, June 09, 2011 - 06:17 am: |
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/julian-borger-glob al-security-blog/2011/jun/08/iran-blogging |
Sifo
| | Posted on Thursday, June 09, 2011 - 05:30 pm: |
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Do we even know what side we are on in war#4? I keep waiting for BO to explain how 2 wars caused the economic problems again. Seems to be a typical BO strategy to double down on the Bush strategies that BO criticizes. |
Aesquire
| | Posted on Friday, June 10, 2011 - 12:46 am: |
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Sifo, I just kinda assume we are against the traditional American ally...or for the communist dictator, or jihadi theocrat.
Isn't that our current foreign policy? If it isn't.... what is? |
Aesquire
| | Posted on Friday, June 10, 2011 - 09:35 pm: |
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http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/269080/coor dinates-radicalism-andrew-c-mccarthy
I Don't completely agree with all of the above.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/269176/rein -president-s-war-powers-jeffrey-h-anderson
Note well I am not in a dither about Obama starting TWO new wars. ( though one may have been in secret being for some time ) He didn't ask me ( nor did Bush ) but that's his job. Sorta.
Unlike the &*&%$ that complain years later that we should not have gone to war with Iraq, or Korea, or Nazi Germany, ( yeah, they exist ) I recognize reality enough to see that war is in being. It's happening. Now. Wishing that Obama had not started a war with Libya is like wishing to win the lotto. Good luck with that. ( why don't you grow up? ) Reminds me, gotta buy a ticket.
I do feel free to complain about HOW the Prez makes war. I was very unhappy with Bush about Iraq. A little better pleased with "the surge", since it at least implied we were going to TRY to win something, but still angry that thousands of reinforcements were needed. It meant we didn't do it right.
Pisses me off no end to waste money and human lives on stupid tactics & strategy. Especially American and Allied lives. Most of the Allied troops and ALL of the US troops are volunteers who only wanted to defend their societies. Sending them to be hurt & killed uselessly is evil.
So. I'm a bit upset with Libya. It seems to my simplistic mind that we could have fairly easily eliminated a long sitting dictator in the first week. That would have saved thousands of lives. Civilian lives shelled and caught in the crossfire by both rebels and loyalists. Rebels and loyalists who would have been simply Libyans if the Supreme Ego was gone and maybe even people working to create a better place for their children.
But we didn't do that. I think we still should. I hope it's not too late.
True, such a course has dangers. It would be hard to select a new leader, and even harder to find a New George Washington for Libya. It's doubtful that the events following Gaddafi's leaving would spontaneously produce such a saint. Not in that culture. Not in a country ruled by a dictator for decades, with no tradition of self sacrificing public service. But, I think worth a shot.
My strategy.
Fight to win. Eliminate the dictator. Try not to screw up the natives selecting a non-dictator leader & Government. Be prepared to do it again if they do.
Don't let insurgents use lines on a map to murder innocents. Be prepared to, and DO if needed, eliminate the dictator in the country(s) that support insurgents.
It seems to me that killing a few dozen dictators is better than killing thousands of troops. Anyone's troops.
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Blake
| | Posted on Monday, June 13, 2011 - 02:10 pm: |
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I agree, except for the part about your mind being simplistic.  |
Aesquire
| | Posted on Saturday, June 18, 2011 - 07:04 am: |
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/18/world/africa/18p owers.html
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_US_LIBYA ?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011- 06-17-03-14-56
I'm not happy with the idea of abandoning the Libyan people to spite the Prez. I'm also not happy with his logic...nor his actions that seem to be increasing the number of dead. Is there a way the citizens can impeach all these guys? I mean without refreshing the tree.....
And Harry Reid, who declared the war in Iraq as lost.... ( Obama's has since taken credit for it's success. ) makes me believe this war shall drag on for a century..... Based on his accuracy in these matters.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/06/17/ harry_reid_on_libya_this_thing_will_be_over_before _we_know_it.html
How much does this incompetent thief need to rip you folk off in NV? Oh well, at least he doesn't twit his penis around. |
Aesquire
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 - 08:28 pm: |
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jun/21/barack -obama-and-pentagon-split-on-afghanistan
I have no comment at this time that won't get me banned.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obamas-nega tion-of-hostilities-in-libya-draws-criticism/2011/ 06/20/AGV2zTdH_print.html
Honesty is not even a policy with these guys.
Bear in mind that this admin. has claimed that taxes were NOT taxes while pushing the health care takeover, then claimed in court that because they were taxes the law was legal.
Are we bombing people? Then it's "hostilities" and the Prez must consult with Congress. I didn't write the law.... but the idea of checks and balances is to prevent dictatorial actions. On anyones part. Bit of a clash of wills coming on this subject. |
Sifo
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 - 08:32 pm: |
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I pretty much stayed away from the news while traveling south on the bike. Are we still involved in 4 wars, or is it only 3 wars again? Or is it 3 wars and a secret war? Or is it 2 wars, 1 not war and a secret war? I haven't heard what happened to the 4th war since I've been back. |
Buellinmke
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 21, 2011 - 09:23 pm: |
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We're still in the original 2 wars started by George W. Bush the lying traitor. Obama the new Jesus is just bringing democracy to Libya. |
Sifo
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 - 08:51 am: |
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We're still in the original 2 wars started by George W. Bush the lying traitor. Obama the new Jesus is just bringing democracy to Libya.
So what happened to the war in Yemen? Did we win? |
Aesquire
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 - 07:01 pm: |
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Victory is not a word Barry likes. Too colonial.
Buellinmke, I have some questions on your statement, but please get back to me on that on the "PSA for Teabaggers" thread.
Have any good ideas on the wars in question? Both the 2 Bush started, the 2 Obama started, and the 1 that actually the other 4 are really just fronts of. Global Jihad.
Really looking for good ideas, not personality bashing. Barack doesn't like "victory". I understand that, since it is not his world view. It is, however, in mine. I will accept a solution using that word.
So far amplified womens lib looks like the best course. ( the Sgt. Trixie solution ) |
Sifo
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2011 - 07:10 pm: |
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So what did happen with Yemen? Did we surrender? I honestly have no idea. I haven't seen news on this in weeks. |
Aesquire
| | Posted on Sunday, June 26, 2011 - 06:40 am: |
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110624/ap_on_go_co/us _us_libya
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jun/24/ho use-rebukes-obama-libya-lets-funding-continue/
While I may disagree with Obama on Libya ( hard to tell though, since he's very unclear.... it's not hostilities? ) You don't screw people you promised to support. Wish that attitude was true with Barry & co. Glad at least a few politicians in DC get that.
http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/06/24 /exclusive_top_us_admiral_admits_we_are_trying_to_ kill_qaddafi
http://www.france24.com/en/20110624-yemen-middle-e ast-security-forces-fire-funeral-official-presiden t-saleh-ahmed-darwish
http://www.france24.com/en/20110624-syria-security -forces-open-fire-on-demonstrators-assad-turkey#
The wars continue. Freedom is the cry, and bullets are the answer. I have grave misgivings about this admin's policies. |
Sifo
| | Posted on Thursday, June 30, 2011 - 07:02 pm: |
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I guess it depends on how you count them, but if you count us bombing a country against it's will, then I think the WaPo might have the count right at six. Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Libya, Yemen, and now Somali. If you don't count the ones that are using non-aggressive bombing or however it was described, then I guess you could wind up with a different number.
How many countries do we have to be bombing before it's considered a world war?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/national-se curity/us-drones-target-two-leaders-of-somali-grou p-allied-with-al-qaeda/2011/06/29/AGJFxZrH_story.h tml?hpid=z1 |
Aesquire
| | Posted on Thursday, June 30, 2011 - 09:52 pm: |
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With the exception of Libya, which seems to be either...
1. a badly done attempt to reduce civilian deaths in a civil war...or
2. a cowardly election campaign bid to seem a strong advocate of US defense. I guess to try and boost polls that failed to rise high enough when Obama let the military kill Osama. ( and stupid, IMHO as Obama, little as I like his ideology, was at least following Bush's lead in killing Taliban. His policies on telling the taliban we were leaving are insane, but few thought him a coward on war. Moron, but not coward. ) or
3. A ploy to make the Rep's seem bad by having them oppose an illegal war... or even better, cut funding to an existing conflict, making the Dem's treasonous actions in that direction all righteous and crap. I just can't figure out the heart of these neo-marxist authoritarian fools.
....Pakistan, iraq, etc. etc. are all the SAME war. The war against western civilization by jihadists.
Still think we're not doing it right. |
Aesquire
| | Posted on Saturday, July 02, 2011 - 09:02 pm: |
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I'm not all exercised about the war powers act business. In this thread. Objective reality is we are at war.
Not calling war, war, is an unfortunate fact of life. Like "undocumented citizens" and "Police Action", "Kinetic unhostilities" is pretty obviously DoubleSpeak. ( Orwell, 1984 ) Politicians will have their little lies, and this one is a bit old. Oh, well.
Never mind that, here's some news.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2010505/Ai r-Force-Navy-flying-thousands-missions-Libya-Obama -says-U-S-playing-limited-role.html
http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2011/06/defense- africom-air-force-navy-flying-libya-missions-06301 1/
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europe/07/02/spain.c linton/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-says-he-does n-t-have-answer-whethe
He also told everyone to get to work, and then went on vacation. My opinion on that is pretty obvious. Still he's right that gaddafi's a jerk. Why haven't we taken him?
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Colone l-Gaddafis-Arrest-Warrant-Issued-By-International- Criminal-Court-Is-Slammed-By-African-Union/Article /201107116023009?lpos=World_News_Carousel_Region_0 &lid=ARTICLE_16023009_Colonel_Gaddafis_Arrest_Warr ant_Issued_By_International_Criminal_Court_Is_Slam med_By_African_Union
GO! UK Apaches! GO! Spain! Thank you allies in this and other conflicts.
Is there a....... Bounty? Wouldn't it be cheaper to put a really big price on his head? If you were a General in some small country with a bit of ability to project competent troops, would it be a boon to your nation to take Gaddafi and claim the Bounty for your Treasury? |
Aesquire
| | Posted on Sunday, July 03, 2011 - 10:35 am: |
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100014240527023037 63404576420080640167182.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopSto ries
I've long advocated pulling the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan out through Tehran. If there is no pretense at "nation building" but simply the removal of the revolutionary guard, the prez, the Ayatollas, and the nuclear program, we're looking at 2 weeks. Then we hook up the tankers and steal the oil. Then leave.
http://www.voanews.com/english/news/Gaza-Flotilla- Determined-to-Sail-Despite-Setbacks-124910404.html
Same war.
http://www.voanews.com/english/news/middle-east/He zbollah-Rules-Out-Arrests-in-Hariri-Murder-Case-12 4918554.html
ditto.
New war.
... dismissed the International Criminal Court as a “joke.”
Wow, I agree with Gaddafi.
http://blogs.voanews.com/breaking-news/2011/07/02/ clinton-gadhafis-threats-will-not-stop-nato-in-lib ya/ |
Aesquire
| | Posted on Monday, July 04, 2011 - 08:25 am: |
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/03/us-libya -france-son-idUSTRE7622BL20110703
In a telephone address relayed to tens of thousands of supporters in Tripoli's Green Square on Friday, Gaddafi urged NATO to halt its bombing campaign or risk seeing Libyan fighters descend on Europe "like a swarm of locusts or bees."
I think we have a spray for that.
A telephone address? That makes speeches a lot safer.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/07/0 3/uk-terrorists-told-pretend-to-be-gay-so-you-don- t-get-caught-115875-23242635/
The giggle here is that the Soviets often used the "honeytrap" in Russia to blackmail tourists and diplomats. The KGB trained and paid both female and male prostitutes for the honeytrap. Even better from a spy point of view was to catch a diplo in a homosexual affair. Used to be the best blackmail was to threaten to let the press and family know..worked well in the '20's through '80's. (Now they can get married in New York's latest revenue craze, pretending to be a gay bed and breakfast to attract the gay marriage tourism.) It's typical. Terrorists often visit strip clubs and do other actions that would be stoning crimes back home. The leaders are big on Burkas and pretending to be women.
back to the main conflict...Thailand front.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/07/0 2/moment-booby-trapped-car-exploded-caught-on-came ra-and-bomb-disposal-expert-survived-115875-232413 47/ |
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