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Fast1075
Posted on Tuesday, February 22, 2011 - 07:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was browsing the Rotax website....THIS would be awesome in a new Erik Buell Racing singles class bike : ).



450cc and 50hp...would kick my DRZ's ass.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, February 22, 2011 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yes a super thump or a sumo; and I am in. Hell I would go to the track and even get a support vehicle!

....and the quick detach lights and plate for weekday hooliganism and shenaningans
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Tuesday, February 22, 2011 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Who knows, maybe this is the motor he is looking at when talking about the future and a possible dirtbike

I like it. I want one.
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Buellerandy
Posted on Tuesday, February 22, 2011 - 04:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

oh great...another tease...
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Ridenusa4l
Posted on Tuesday, February 22, 2011 - 04:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

that was actually the engine destined for the buell dirtbike...

Jake
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, February 22, 2011 - 05:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Got Wood ?

yes, yes I do, quickly followed by mud, creek crossings, fence running, off grid shenanigans

Dirty Bike?
- Fabulous
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Prof_stack
Posted on Tuesday, February 22, 2011 - 05:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Still another reason to hate Harley.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, February 22, 2011 - 05:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

could you imagine where we would be now in in 1978 they kept the dirt platform and in the mid 80's Erik picked it up as a side project 'race' platform ?

it is pure Moto-Porn Fantasies... but I can dream cant I ?
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Ezblast
Posted on Tuesday, February 22, 2011 - 06:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And still Das Boot! - lol
EZ
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Ohsoslow
Posted on Tuesday, February 22, 2011 - 06:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

any other specs on it?

(Message edited by ohsoslow on February 22, 2011)
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Anonymous
Posted on Tuesday, February 22, 2011 - 07:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Specs, I know the specs on it. 50+hp, great torque curve, lasts 5-10 times longer than a CRF450F on a hard dyno-based durability test, is a couple of kgs heavy, you'd probably have to do a really (!) light chassis for it. :-) Cylinder head is basically an Aprilia Twin head with full down-draft intake -- you'd probably want to put an airbox where a fuel tank normally is. Needs a lighter, skinnier alternator for MX, but I know an Italian electronics company who already has such a thing tooled, and, why, just for this motor. Strange that should happen. The enduro version would want a six-speed, which also just happens to fit. Electric start only, so you don't have the weight of the kick-starter lever or gears or bearings, and a battery could probably weigh 14 ozs. if it used the right lithium-ion cells, so you get the electric start with no weight penalty. What else do you want to know?
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Ezblast
Posted on Tuesday, February 22, 2011 - 07:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Drool - lol
EZ
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Weaponxbs
Posted on Tuesday, February 22, 2011 - 07:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Things that make ya go Hmmmmmm
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, February 22, 2011 - 07:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You are breaking my heart Anony! : (

For those that don't know, a CRF-450X is no end of fun to ride, but the manual recommends a top end rebuilds after every 10 hours of use (no joke). It's insane.
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Prof_stack
Posted on Tuesday, February 22, 2011 - 07:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Specs, I know the specs on it. 50+hp, great torque curve, lasts 5-10 times longer than a CRF450F on a hard dyno-based durability test, is a couple of kgs heavy, you'd probably have to do a really (!) light chassis for it. :-) Cylinder head is basically an Aprilia Twin head with full down-draft intake -- you'd probably want to put an airbox where a fuel tank normally is. Needs a lighter, skinnier alternator for MX, but I know an Italian electronics company who already has such a thing tooled, and, why, just for this motor. Strange that should happen. The enduro version would want a six-speed, which also just happens to fit. Electric start only, so you don't have the weight of the kick-starter lever or gears or bearings, and a battery could probably weigh 14 ozs. if it used the right lithium-ion cells, so you get the electric start with no weight penalty. What else do you want to know?"

What else, you ask? Can Erik Buell Racing bring out a street version of the single? Thanks!
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, February 22, 2011 - 07:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Ridenusa4l
Posted on Tuesday, February 22, 2011 - 08:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

anon- any insight as to weather Erik Buell Racing will be making such a bike ; ) ???

Jake
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Tuesday, February 22, 2011 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

anon - freaking awesome post brother
anything else you have to tell us, please do.

maybe in the future....
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Blk_uly
Posted on Tuesday, February 22, 2011 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anonymous would you take a guess as to the weight this motor and associated tranny would weigh?
My welding and fab gears are turning... I'm thinking old dirt bike with bad motor...chop off the old mounting points order me one of those 450 with tranny crate motor..... and you could guess the rest I'm sure!
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Fast1075
Posted on Tuesday, February 22, 2011 - 09:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wonder what the bore and stroke are? How much it weighs? Type of crankshaft...physical dimensions...

I'm thinking fairings and sticky tires here...a well done sport single is very appealing to me....a naked streetfighter would be nice.....

Honda has the CBR250r coming this spring...missed the mark by 200 or so cc's and a couple of suspension adjusters...otherwise there would be my name on a crate right now...

Maybe next year....maybe I can get one with a snarling Pegasus on it ; )
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, February 22, 2011 - 11:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Specs, I know the specs on it. 50+hp, great torque curve, lasts 5-10 times longer than a CRF450F on a hard dyno-based durability test, is a couple of kgs heavy, you'd probably have to do a really (!) light chassis for it. :-) Cylinder head is basically an Aprilia Twin head with full down-draft intake -- you'd probably want to put an airbox where a fuel tank normally is. Needs a lighter, skinnier alternator for MX, but I know an Italian electronics company who already has such a thing tooled, and, why, just for this motor. Strange that should happen. The enduro version would want a six-speed, which also just happens to fit. Electric start only, so you don't have the weight of the kick-starter lever or gears or bearings, and a battery could probably weigh 14 ozs. if it used the right lithium-ion cells, so you get the electric start with no weight penalty. What else do you want to know?




Hey . . . I've just seen a bike that fits that description perfectly.

I have a GREAT . . . I mean "Ultra-Classic" (is that term copyrighted?) story about it . .

. . . . Remind me to tell you!
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Ulyranger
Posted on Tuesday, February 22, 2011 - 11:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anon, that all sounds awesome but I would personally pay the few pound penalty for backup kicker. Lightweight enduro battery/estart setups have a way of crapping out in certain conditions. Like sub-30 temps for one. I wouldn't consider any serious enduro that didn't have a kicker.

I would love to see that 450 in something new, cutting edge. Enduro/DS, Sumo, thumper-street fighter versions come to mind...
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F22raptor
Posted on Tuesday, February 22, 2011 - 11:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Got one in my garage.....
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86129squids
Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2011 - 12:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fun thread!

Gotta love a hi-po thumper...

Anony, more pleeez!
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Slaughter
Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2011 - 12:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well... my trusty DRZ may eventually be replaced
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Dfishman
Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2011 - 05:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It would be good to have a set of 17's & a bigger front brake as an option on the imaginary bike.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2011 - 07:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is direct injection ready yet? I'm still hoping for a fuel efficient two stroke.
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Fast1075
Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2011 - 09:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't know about direct injection, but rotax has a 30hp 125 two smoke!
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2011 - 09:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The "proof of concept" bikes are sitting ... where? ; )
I'm thinking someone has a little bit of a head start with regards to playing in the dirt.
The future looks so far away, yet right here in our faces.
I can't wait to see what happens, there was a lot of work done the Griffin.
It doesn't have to go to waste does it?
Time will tell...
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Wednesday, February 23, 2011 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lights, plate, dirt : ACTION

this would get me off of zuki, and maybe out of the Ural purchase......

street legal DS and I am IN.

There is a 48 mile 'loop' off pavement from my house to my clients front door.... of course you could drive the ten minutes on the free-way; but if this were at hand, why would you ever want to

'Just go RIDE the Bike!'

( I wonder if I could trade in a tarded up DR350?....)
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