| Author | Message | ||
     Ducbsa |
Court, you didn't change their outlook: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/hero_ unwelcome_Zi3u1fwtRpo87vXAiAQfSN?sms_ss=email&at_x t=4d61174289d1b9fa%2C0 | ||
| Court |
I haven't yet but . . after that . . I am going to go to one of the future meetings. I've been getting the e-mails from the student senate and, frankly, I'm embarrassed to see otherwise smart people acting so stupidly. | ||
| Iamike |
I still think that if a university stops ROTC or recruiting, they they should get no federal funding. | ||
| Sdecp |
Court: I go to City up the street, can I go to these meetings? I would love to meet this guy and shake his hand. I am extremely proud of him. Looks like he needs to come to school with me. I never understand treating soldiers like this. If you hate the war or hate the military, fine, feel however you like, but do not get mad a people who take orders. I am pissed now, damn it! | ||
| Sdecp |
I should not have seen this. I am shaking with anger. | ||
| Seanp |
Iamike - I'm right there with you. I don't care if a university wants to prevent ROTC from recruiting or being on campus. But if they feel that strongly about it, they need to turn down federal funding as well. It's purely hypocritical. And all those students that think the US is horrible and doing the wrong thing need to turn down any federally-funded scholarships and grants. Let's see how quickly they change their tune then. | ||
| Xdigitalx |
this is just appalling... | ||
| F_skinner |
Concur, appalling. How do they define racist? Hating a group of people for the color of their skin, religion or the uniform they wear? These students (I assume they are students) really want to ban ROTC? I am with Iamike and Seanp. To make statements that the "military preys on low income communities: is neither correct and shows the lack of discipline to do empirical research. SSGT Maschek, deserves much more than this. This is pissing me off. I went on campus (University of Maryland College Park and Webster University in Colorado) in uniform, there was no war going on. I went to class and went back to work. They are not "Ivy League" so maybe that is the difference. I defy any of those students to make a difference, save a life or defend a nation like SSGT Maschek as done. Court, you got your hands full buddy. Find the source. These idiots do not appear to be able to think for themselves. MSgt Skinner USAF Retired | ||
| Brumbear |
There is a thousand things I want to say but don't know how!!!!!! I know they are just misguided scumbags doing this but I would love to troll some shark infested water with there little ivy league asses tied to a line and little cuts on there feet laughing it up with the vets as we watch !!!!!!! | ||
| Court |
Could not be better timing. I teach in Altschul 805 from 6:00-8:00 that very night. | ||
| F_skinner |
Wow, I do not know what to say. I am thankful that I work with all vets and not the Dean of Columbia. | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
I am amazed how ignorant some educated people can be. | ||
| Kenm123t |
Court do your best The left is once again proving thier intolerence and prejudice. The left is liberal only two areas sex and drugs They are control freaks in every other area. Its a wonder some vets do not correct thier behaviour. | ||
| Court |
One of the vocal proponents is one of the Deans. I have met some of the dumbest smart people I could have ever imagined . . . proving once again the chasm that exists between intellect and wisdom. Yeah . . . I've got some great stories. | ||
| Malott442 |
I came from a 100k income family, joined the enlisted Navy. Why? Because I felt, and still feel, a need to do what I can to ensure we are safe as a family, a community, a country. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I agree that banning military at that school is ridiculous. Do they think this country was formed over tea and polite procedures? | ||
| Kenm123t |
These are desendants of the people,our ancestors left europe to be free of. The more I examine the effect of Schools like Columbia, Havard and Yale I find they are as great a danger to the US as radical Islam. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
I would go the other way. IF you are so uppity and not happy with ROTC on campus - go to a campus that doesnt have the program; several of them exist. Hell for me to be NROTC and in my major I would have to have gone to California! absolutely befuddling. | ||
| 2008xb12scg |
tea and polite procedures You mean when we dumped the tea in the river and gave the brits the bird? Sad in this day and age a vet would get such a horrible welcome. If you don't want the ROTC that's one thing (not that I agree) but to boo the man and call him a racist??? FU! | ||
| Blake |
"A group of 34 faculty colleagues, including historian Kenneth Jackson and former Bloomberg adviser Esther Fuchs, plan to announce their support of ROTC tomorrow." That is encouraging. | ||
| Skinstains |
Where do these privelaged little pussies think they would be without an American military ? Certainly not voicing their stupid little immature minds with no fear of negative consequences. F*ck them twice, little bitches... | ||
| Geforce |
Ridiculous. Pure and absolute ignorance. Kudos to the SSG for being a bigger man. It takes a lot of discipline to take criticism on that level and turn the other cheek. Once you've been shot 11 times though, you might react differently to a few hateful words. Climb to Glory! - 10th MTN | ||
| Hootowl |
Some wisdom from the vet in question. "It doesn't matter how you feel about the war. It doesn't matter how you feel about fighting," said Maschek. "There are bad men out there plotting to kill you." This neatly summarizes several threads on this board. | ||
| Drkside79 |
Court do your best The left is once again proving their intolerance and prejudice. The left is liberal only two areas sex and drugs They are control freaks in every other area. Its a wonder some vets do not correct their behavior. WTF I am a liberal and i find this appalling There's about as much merit in that statement as me calling conservatives a bunch of cousin marrying lynch mobs who pray on the weak minded by hiding their hate behind Gods words. Both are true of some but certainly not all. So from a Lib  | ||
| Court |
Frankly . . . I teach in what can only be described as the "Mecca of Liberalism". Some of these folks are do indoctrinated into the ideas of wealth redistribution, having someone else pick up your tab (very few students paying their own way) and the concept that someone, merely as a matter of their attending here, owes them something . .it all borders on humor. The number of conservatives on campus likely hovers around 15 . . . . about half the CL ads in a given day for "M4M meetings in the library". As a result we do what we can. . . Last year there was a big protest and a group of foreign students (their tuition, books, room and board, incidentals, travel to and from home and taxis from the airport are all paid) decided to have a "hunger strike". They set up a camp in the grass directly in front of Butler Library. Be mindful that if I'd set foot in their I'd be tossed out by security. Well the Campus Republicans gave'em a day or two to get hungry and then rolled in about 8 big BBQ grills and started cooking in front of them. The next day . . . the Campus Conservatives . . sat up something like a carnival game. They protesters were camping in popup style tents. For $5.00 you could walk up to a table and buy 3 apples or oranges. The game was to toss the fruit in the opening of the door as they peeked out. We are not without humor. I had to flunk a student once. She had 4 degrees, was an attorney and could not come to grips with the fact that in my class you had to do the work and it had to be turned in and it had to be on time. She'd been through lots of organizations that were scared to take her to task. I've little tolerance for stupid, less for lazy. I had another student who apparently had actually read my "Three Professor Canfield's Odd Quirks" in the online description of the class and must have thought I was joking about cellphones. The good news . . . is that I LOVE competing with some of these "geniusi". | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Just keep thinking of Of Sheep, Wolves, and Sheepdogs. When the shit hits the fan, these whiney little bastards will be sobbing and clinging to the first person in uniform they see. This group of crybabies will be the first beheaded by the Jihadis. Deplorable.  | ||
| Cityxslicker |
I have seen this in my last MSW class. Amazing, people of the new training think that if you 'empower, love, value, support' someone enough they will end their violent ways and be a trusted member of the community. ! The sheep/wolf/sheepdog thread is equally instructive. The Dept of Health and Human Services just took ownerships of a FEDERAL prison in Washington state and the remaining 'residents' are to be considered clinical patients with medical disorders and criminals.... With just the 'proper' therapy, medication and social support systems they can be 'cured' (because rehabilition has proven so affective) now mind you these are only rapists, child pornographers, child molestors, sex offenders and human trafficers - which they all intend to release after an 'approved course of treatment' welcome to the new 'justice' system. Another reason I am not a fan of the New healtcare bill. quess where they got the budget to pull this bat shiat crazy stuff off from? Remember the teachers are from the generation of 'Make Love not War' and Give Peace a chance and the students, the closest they ever got to violence was Call of Duty midnite game marathon. | ||
| Blake |
Drk, >>> There's about as much merit in that statement as me calling conservatives a bunch of cousin marrying lynch mobs who pray on the weak minded by hiding their hate behind Gods words. Both are true of some but certainly not all. What was it your liberal candidate for the presidency stated concerning enlistment in the military? You know, the guy who eagerly bought into the lies of communist propagandists and fraudulent combat veterans, the one who threw his, or wait they were really someone else's, military medals onto the ground? That was your "liberal" presidential candidate. You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq. Truth matters. A Significant portion of the "liberal" leadership is indeed blatantly anti-military. The examples are legion. The converse wrt your false analogy is not true. | ||
| Hootowl |
I'll tell you what, the military certainly does target certain groups for recruitment. How else do you explain the staggeringly disproportional number of... ...people from Texas  http://www.statemaster.com/graph/mil_tot_mil_rec_a rm_nav_air_for-recruits-army-navy-air-force Any ensuing discussion of state populations will only serve to burst my bubble and will not be tolerated. | ||
| Drkside79 |
It was a stupid comment for Kerry to make. He was a Veteran himself so i doubt he meant that literally. I did not hear it myself nor can i find the rest of the speech to provide context. He may have been mocking someone or that is only part of the statement. Either way it is a ignorant thing to have said. >>>>>The converse wrt your false analogy is not true. What is wrt I'm not trying to be an ass i just couldn't figure it out. | ||
| Hootowl |
He wasn't mocking someone, that's just the way he thinks. On my flight from Seattle to San Diego for boot camp, I sat next to a woman who told me (in response to learning that I was headed for boot camp) that if her son didn't start getting better grades he would have no choice but to join the military too. The sentiment is pervasive. |
