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Not_purple_s2
Posted on Wednesday, February 09, 2011 - 02:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well at least the track and race guys.
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Superdavetfft
Posted on Wednesday, February 09, 2011 - 04:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

.... now that's a church i'd go to! Instead of a collection plate we could pass around an airbox cover ; ) the preacher could be decked out in a firesuit too
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Kenm123t
Posted on Wednesday, February 09, 2011 - 06:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

lol you may need a fire suit if you don't make it to church
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Racerx
Posted on Wednesday, February 09, 2011 - 06:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

you may need a fire suit if you don't make it to church

Yet another condition to the 'unconditional' love of the lord...
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Kenm123t
Posted on Wednesday, February 09, 2011 - 08:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You dont get it do you ? the choice is yours free will.
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Racerx
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 07:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

But god is omnipotent, which means he/she knows what we are going to do. That negates free will.

If god doesn't know, that means he isn't omnipotent and you can fill in the rest...
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Trojan
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 08:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah I'm an atheist, thank god : )
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Slaughter
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 08:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just because she is black, doesn't mean that god can't see the silliness in this.
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Slaughter
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 08:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll keep commenting EVEN THOUGH the image in the OP isn't showing any longer...

I'd always wondered about how silly god must think us all when we even see athletic teams praying for victory. I'm NOT making that up. OK now - tell me why god should favor an athletic team? That means that the losers are not favored by god simply because the "other side" won?

Does god ONLY favor the Packers this year - because NONE of the others even made Stupor Bowl?

Heavy... duuude... this is getting existential. Gotta get another cup of coffee.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Knowing and directing are two different things.
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Racerx
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

SO god 'knowing' just means your destiny has been set. You path has already been chosen.

No matter how you want to justify it if someone knows how your whole life is going to play out, is not free-will...
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you believe in a multiverse (and the folks who study quantum mechanics do) everything that can happen, does happen. You're free to choose, but you've chosen everything and in doing so, created yet another universe. If God is omnipotent, He can see all off these universes, and knows everything that is going to happen because everything will happen.

Wrap your noodle around that. I'm not sure I can. : )
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Not_purple_s2
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok... well aparently not.
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Not_purple_s2
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What are you guys talking about anyway???
I posted a video of a a guy talking about riding sportbikes on the track....
It's still there and working for me.
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 12:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>> If god doesn't know, that means he isn't omnipotent and you can fill in the rest...

That is incoherent and illogical.

1. God must me omnipotent.

2. People are not omnipotent.

3. Therefore God is not omnipotent?

Huh? That logic don't hunt. Try again?

Analogy:

1. Parent knows that toughing hot stove will burn child.

2. Parent advises child to avoid touching hot stove and explains the consequences should they do so.

3. Parent allows child the freedom to make his/her own choice.

4. Child questions wisdom of parent and touches hot stove, predictably suffers a burn.

5. This demonstrates that the parent has no authority over the child?

Not so much. : )
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>> Yet another condition to the 'unconditional' love of the lord...

1. Parent loves child.

2. Child matures and is granted free will to do as he/she pleases.

3. Child chooses drug abuse and risky sexual behavior.

4. Child suffers consequences, suffers, and dies.

5. Parent doesn't love child?

Bad logic is just bad. : )

The consequences for our free will and our choices are just that and of our own doing. Would you rather be a robot or a puppet of God? Know any parents like that? How do their grown children feel about them?
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Steve,

>>> I'd always wondered about how silly god must think us all when we even see athletic teams praying for victory.

I've been on a lot of athletic teams. We never prayed for victory. We prayed for strength, that we'd do our best, for the safety of all, and that we might behave according to God's will that he might be glorified in the sight of all.
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Curtis, I sure don't agree with a hobby being thought of as a religious endeavor.

I think track riding is a great hobby, and that pursuing excellence in fair measure with respect to a balanced life is certainly a worthy endeavor.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A religion thread we can all agree on


not so much....
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 12:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

can we all agree this is the best version of AC/DC's TNT



the crowd is inSANE!!
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Fast1075
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 01:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dude needs a good larynologist...or an exorcist...








Just kidding...that was tight.
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Blackm2
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 01:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Curtis, you didn't really think this wasn't going to turn into a religious thread did you? Good try anyway.
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Not_purple_s2
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LOL, the reaction of this thread is both sad and hilarious to me.
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Racerx
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ahhh the Kirk Cameron of the Badweb rears his head!

Yet more non sequitur and generalized terms and ideas to defend your position.

I am sure god would be pretty angry that you compared him to a parent that doesn't know whether or not their child would touch the stove when it is obvious god would...
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Racerx
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 01:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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86129squids
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Can we turn this into the "facepalm thread"?
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Fast1075
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 02:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Spidey!!!! Help!!!! we need a funny bunny with a pancake on it's head pic!!!!

I'm out of fresh okra jokes...
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Slaughter
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You're all goin' to HELL!
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Slaughter
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This thread is goin' to HELL!
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2011 - 03:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Flat Earther!
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