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Tom_b
Posted on Monday, January 10, 2011 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The family of this youngest victim of the shooting in Tuscon now has to suffer from those Westboro (alledgedy) Baptist assholes showing up..Have those idiots have absolutely no decency.

(Message edited by tom b on January 10, 2011)
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86129squids
Posted on Monday, January 10, 2011 - 09:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Somehow, we must do the math.

In and out, what are their weaknesses?
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Tom_b
Posted on Monday, January 10, 2011 - 09:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Head rejoicing in the shooting..http://www.youtube.com/?v=TmpmS8iQb0I
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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Monday, January 10, 2011 - 09:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

disgusting
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Monday, January 10, 2011 - 10:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

wow, so I could be under inspection for the history I have read... but this guy has protected free speech ?....

whewwweeee

where does the liberal media pc crowd come in on this one ?
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Ezblast
Posted on Monday, January 10, 2011 - 10:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nutjob!
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Monday, January 10, 2011 - 11:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Are they gonna be there? It would be unwise... cuz some unstable personality may try to speak to them.... Just sayin.

If they do...I hope they bring a video camera.

(Message edited by xdigitalx on January 10, 2011)
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Moxnix
Posted on Monday, January 10, 2011 - 11:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Whacko cult. I suspect they will not get a warm welcome in Tucson.
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Iman501
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 12:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

why cant somebody go crazy and pull a gun on the Westboro Baptist people.....I'm sure there wouldn't be to much objection with that...
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Whisperstealth
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 12:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's these kinda of people that will bring down free speech. "THEY" will use it as an example of why the first amendment needs to be changed, a precursor to being removed.
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 01:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

here is some free speech for ya....
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Whisperstealth
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 02:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, that's one way to wear out a pistol. It's neat, but an expensive use of your equipment.
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Cataract2
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 08:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I hate to say it. I stand by my convictions that while yes, this is disgusting. Free speech must be protected. Now, what happens to them by other citizens is another matter. Free speech carries consequences.
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 08:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is why I think the power of the CIA is over-rated. These people shoulda come up missing a long time ago.

Where are the old school hell's angels when you need them?
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Babired
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 09:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just watched the documentary on that cult and the lead guy is full of hate and then they had the Patriot guard showing them how they take their Harleys and and point the end of their bikes toward the protesters they were really effecting the demonstrators. I would love to join them with my Buell X1
the documentary it called Fall from Grace. you can find it on Netflix in the documentary section

(Message edited by babired on January 11, 2011)
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Jaimec
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 09:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sure would be nice if every other Baptist Church out there were able to sue to prevent them the use of the word "Baptist" for that Satanic, devil-worshipping cult this bastard runs. It stains the entire religion (in my view) when these whackos do what they do under the "Baptist" banner.

I'm not a Baptist but I WAS raised a Christian... and what these guys practice has absolutely no bearing on ANY Christian teaching to which I've been exposed.

The existence of these creeps is just one thing that makes me question religion in general. If there truly WAS a just God in heaven, this "church" would've been obliterated YEARS ago by lightning and meteor strikes while it was full of practitioners.
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Tom_b
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 10:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They are planning on being there unfortunate;y. jaimec i 100 percent agree with you. that is why i put alledged
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 10:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It has to be PC now. People gotta start thinking... like.. I just saw a couple situations were a bunch protesters blocked a semi, that was delivering military supplies.. they made a human chain and blocked the delivery. And then a bunch of timber workers were delayed by some other protesters.

Look on You tube and see how some of these new-age protesters are protesting and blocking everything from little people to big corporations.

Shouldnt be too hard to make a human chain around the WBC van.

I would like to make a note though. I do believe the WBC should be allowed to protest anywhere, anything and anytime EXCEPT:
Anywhere within 5,000 yards of a cemetery, funeral, funeral procession, or anywhere near any family members of the deceased. Or accept outrageous fines and/or jailtime. Especially if it is a person who served in the military or in any public office.
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 10:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Iman,

>>> why cant somebody go crazy and pull a gun on the Westboro Baptist people.....I'm sure there wouldn't be to much objection with that...

Not the way to go, or think. I understand your reasons, but let's not promote such thinking. Vengeance is whose job?




(Message edited by blake on January 11, 2011)
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 10:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jaime,

>>> If there truly WAS a just God in heaven, this "church" would've been obliterated YEARS ago by lightning and meteor strikes while it was full of practitioners.

Wouldn't that make God into an arbiter of social justice, an executioner of the irritating? Is that what you really want? Woe unto us who ever irritate God.

We don't like something, and so question the will of God? Really? Are we not as ignorant little children compared to the infinite wisdom of the creator? Even the best stew or our favorite beer depend upon constituents that by themselves are unbearably unpalatable.

When we see evil, would it not be more beneficial for mankind to unite in condemnation of satan (evil) rather than to question the wisdom of God and ask that he handle it for us?

The outrageous behavior of these hateful people is uniting an unprecedentedly wide swath of Americans. Hmmm...
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Bbbob
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It stains the entire religion (in my view) when these whackos do what they do under the "Baptist" banner.

kinda like the actions of the Taliban stains all Muslums...
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Bienhoabob
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I believe there is a new law on the books that prohibit protesters from being 100 yds from the funeral site.
As a PGR rider, it usually is the nutcases, then the police, then the PGR riders.

Funeral goers are immune from those idiots.
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 10:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lets lock and load our hands together and make a HUMAN CHAIN around them biatches!!!
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 10:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It stains the entire religion (in my view) when these whackos do what they do under the "Baptist" banner.

kinda like the actions of the Taliban stains all Muslums...

Yea... but I don't see many stained muslims complaining about it, do you?
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 10:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Westboro is neither a Baptist church nor a cult.

It is a money making scam. Why WOULDN'T they protest at the funeral of a 9 year old shooting victim? All the world's eyes are going to be on this funeral. It's the equivalent of advertising during the Superbowl or during the final game of the World Series.

The goal is two fold. First, create an abhorrent display likely to create a personally violent or personal property destructive process. Second, get the act on film with the intent to prosecute for monetary judgment. It's a free speech financial shakedown. The secondary benefit of protesting a high profile funeral is that you incite even greater response at the next event. You might not take the time to confront them until this protest or that hits your hot button.

The best outcome to deal with them is nothing. No physical attack. No property damage. Nothing. It costs money for them to travel. If there is no settlement, they slowly bleed to death.

This is a full time job for these folks. It's no different than professional "protesters" hired by leftist groups.

Phelps will be dead soon. Westboro will fade away following his death.
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Jaimec
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 10:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Yea... but I don't see many stained muslims complaining about it, do you?




As a matter of fact, I do. I work with quite a few of them here (I'm in the IT field).
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I grew up with these nut cases, in Westboro, and you can not begin to believe how over the edge they are.

I am thrilled to see folks coming from around the world to insulate this poor young girls family from these terrible people.

I've given serious thought to a quick trip to Tucson.

P.S. - If won't do much to help but I have a dear friend who, as part of a scavenger hunt that got a bit out of hand . . who got into the shed they store their signs in and "borrowed" one.
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Spank
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 10:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How much would it take for said friend to [redacted] Or at least let me know and I will do it....I have some time on my hands.



Please do not put this forum at risk by publishing such irresponsible requests. It is in fact illegal. Wise up.

Blake






(Message edited by blake on January 11, 2011)
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

a human chain of protesters literally blocking the protesters from going anywhere is non-violent. people have done this for less meaningful reasons.

Or maybe...someone can try and spread love by hugging them at the protest site. Random sporadic hugging... to another human being....

ignoring them will do nothing except bring distress to those they protest. at least till the leader dies... 2-4-8 10 years from now?? Then the remaining may still go on. I don't see that as a solution at all.
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, January 11, 2011 - 10:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

kinda like the actions of the Taliban stains all Muslums...

Yeah, the Taliban, and Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda in Iraq, Hezbolla, Turkish Hezbollah, Ansar al-Islam, Fatah al-Islam, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Armed Islamic Group, al-Harakat al-Islamiyya, Lashkar-e-Toiba, Jaish-e-Mohammed, Jamaat-ul-Mujahideen, Hezb-e-Islami Gulbuddin, Babbar Khalsa, Ansar al-Sunna, Palestine Liberation Organization, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Palestine Liberation Front, Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command, Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan, Society of the Revival of Islamic Heritage, Stichting Al Aqsa, Students Islamic Movement of India, Supreme Military Majlis ul-Shura of the United Mujahideen Forces of Caucasus, Tehreek-e-Nafaz-e-Shariat-e-Mohammadi...

It's just like the Baptists!
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