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Cataract2
Posted on Saturday, January 01, 2011 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Was reading up on another sites thread about tire changing. Someone mentioned the use of the Mojo tire bar. http://home.comcast.net/~prestondrake/mojoweb.htm

Seems like the overall opinions of it was very good. Anyone have experience with it?
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Luftkoph
Posted on Saturday, January 01, 2011 - 01:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I bought one a few years ago its a heavy hunk of steel.the weak part is the round end where the bolt goes in to hold that nylon end pcs. I snapped the bolt last tire I changed(dunlop roadsmart) which was the most difficult tire I have ever mounted.
I'am just going to ezout the bolt and should be good to go.
The only good thing about this tool is the nylon tips so you dont scratch yer paint too much,but there might be cheaper ways than this tool.
I think some big tire spoons for cars and trucks with milk jug plastic for protection might be as good and cheaper.
Also can't be sure but don't use yamaha tire mount lube
I'am sure it softend up my paint on the wheel
Hope this helps you some
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Fahren
Posted on Saturday, January 01, 2011 - 01:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"I think some big tire spoons for cars and trucks with milk jug plastic for protection might be as good and cheaper."

Yup. Not as high tech as some other setups, but not as much outlay, either.
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Hammer71
Posted on Saturday, January 01, 2011 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.nomartirechanger.com/products/6

Been using this for years with zero issues. Better design than the above link and tips have a lifetime replacement. Also if you have any issues you actually speak with the designer/owner.
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Greg_e
Posted on Saturday, January 01, 2011 - 03:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This looks pretty nice
http://www.cyclehilltirechanger.com/
Not that expensive either, cost of about 8 to 10 changes around here.
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Cataract2
Posted on Saturday, January 01, 2011 - 04:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How does that No Mar design work?
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Ourdee
Posted on Saturday, January 01, 2011 - 05:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd like to try the zip tie method.
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Swampy
Posted on Saturday, January 01, 2011 - 05:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do tell, what is the zip tie method?
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Ourdee
Posted on Saturday, January 01, 2011 - 05:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have heard rumor, even seen pics in the past of people putting tires on with 6 plus zip ties. They put them on the tire to hold the beads together. then put both beads on at the same time.
Try this thread:http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/406 2/592151.html
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Bluzm2
Posted on Saturday, January 01, 2011 - 06:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have the Mojo tire bar. They have beefed it up a bit since Doug (Luftkoph) bought his. They use a grade 8 bolt or something like that.
I've changed at least 10 tires since I got it, it works like a charm. I also bought their conversion kit for the Harbor Freight tire changer. It also works as advertised.
Now there is no metal to metal contact during the tire changing process. Not even on the rim clamps.
I already had the changer, it was worth it to me to add the Mojo bar and clamps.
I figure it paid for itself after the 3rd use.

YMMV

Brad
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Cataract2
Posted on Saturday, January 01, 2011 - 06:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've heard about the zip tie method as well. Curious about that.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Saturday, January 01, 2011 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Lots of heat and lots of lube seem to be the magic for me. Find a way to get the tire to 100 degrees or more...
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Swampy
Posted on Saturday, January 01, 2011 - 07:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Next time, next time.....
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Hughlysses
Posted on Saturday, January 01, 2011 - 08:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a Harbor Freight tire changer and the Mojo bar and blocks. I already had the tire changer and a friend offered to buy the bar and blocks if I'd let him use the changer when he needed it. That was a heck of a deal for me.

I've changed 3 or 4 sets of motorcycle tires now and it works well.
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Crusty
Posted on Saturday, January 01, 2011 - 09:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've never used a Mojo bar. I bought a NoMar Tire Changer a few years ago, and I'm extremely happy with it. It cost more than the Harbor Freight changer, but it doesn't need Mojo bars or Mojo blocks or anything else. It was also made in the USA; which means it's a product that pays an American to make it.
As of this past summer, it has paid for itself. When you have three riders in the family, you change a lot of tires.
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Greg_e
Posted on Saturday, January 01, 2011 - 10:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone know if the cycle hill will work on car tires?
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Hammer71
Posted on Saturday, January 01, 2011 - 10:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No Mar/ Cycle Hill changers will do car and truck tires as well.
http://www.nomartirechanger.com/videos/22
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Thumper74
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2011 - 01:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I use laundry detergent bottles, they're a little bit thicker than milk jugs...
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Ducbsa
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2011 - 07:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How does that No Mar design work?

http://www.nomartirechanger.com/videos/showcase
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Reepicheep
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2011 - 08:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've never torn through a milk jug or a two liter bottle...

so I use whatever I would be most comfortable with leaving in the tire for 5000 miles. ; )

(DAMHIK)
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Airwolf
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2011 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll throw in my vote for the Cycle Hill changer. I bought one last spring and use it all the time to go from street to track tires. It also has no problem with car tires. Used it for my wife's car 2 weeks ago. It has already more than paid for itself. As a side note, I went to my local Yamaha dealer to buy wheel weights and discovered that they are now steel instead of lead here in CA. I guess the friggin gov't is afraid that kids might eat them. What's next, huh?
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2011 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have been using a friends No-Mar to change my tires for years.

It is a great unit, but it does take a bit of practice to make it look as easy as it looks on the video on the No-Mar site.

While the tips are guaranteed, I recommend always keeping a spare on hand: they are easy to break if you don't follow the instructions, something some of my friends just never do.

The problem for me, is since I only change tires, once or twice a year, I have never really gotten good at it.

Luckily I have a friend who is a wiz.

Bottom Line:

Get a couple of guys to chip in on one, help each other change tires and you'll be glad you got it.
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Xl1200r
Posted on Sunday, January 02, 2011 - 09:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a No Mar Bar, I don't need anything else but it to change a tire - it takes some wrestling, but I can do it. I love mine.

The zip-tie method is a neat trick, but it helps you to get the new tire on which is the easy part. Getting the old one off is the hard part.
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Firebolteric_ma
Posted on Monday, January 03, 2011 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1 on No-Mar-Bar... Been doing mine and many others for years now. Never a scratch on the rim...Lets see a dealership do that...
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