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Badlionsfan
Posted on Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 08:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

.......unless they do.

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?artic le=42858
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Whisperstealth
Posted on Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 08:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

KLR 650's have had bad balancer lever (Doohicky's) for over 20 years, and Kawi refuse's to admit it or do anything about it.

Most put in aftermarket one's by eagle mike.
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 09:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well apparently whatever is wrong with the new Ninja they don't want dealers fixing it since if you have one they want you to return it for a refund.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 09:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Soooooooo... whats wrong wit da Ninja??
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 09:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"technical hold"
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Oddball
Posted on Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 09:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Whoops, doesn't sound good. Certainly comes across bad with the unexplained recalling of every bike.

Sounds as suspicious as Tiger Woods' accident story did.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 11:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I will say this for Kawasaki.

They stand behind their products. Their products are generally rock solid dependable.

I see this recall as KMC taking responsibility for whatever the issue is. We don't really need to know, although it would be interesting and I'm sure it will come out soon enough.
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Oldog
Posted on Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 11:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wonder had this been bmc there would be hew and cry! shoddy shoddy, kmc does it sokey??

funny ol world
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Sunday, December 12, 2010 - 06:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Evidently Kawasaki learned a lot from the Toyota debacle.

Say as little as possible don't admit or deny anything.

Looks like a sensible & well thought out procedure, hard to see where to fault them.
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Rich
Posted on Sunday, December 12, 2010 - 07:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.bikeland.org/story.php?storyID=59182
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Court
Posted on Sunday, December 12, 2010 - 07:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Quite frankly, I think it's a brilliant move.
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Koz5150
Posted on Sunday, December 12, 2010 - 08:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Smart move, but bad quality control
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Pwnzor
Posted on Sunday, December 12, 2010 - 09:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Kawasaki's quality control is second to none.

Unfortunately, bad things happen no matter what.

Toyota's problems were blown way out of proportion. Kawasaki is wise to get out in front of this.
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Sifo
Posted on Sunday, December 12, 2010 - 11:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't see where to fault Kawasaki on this. An engineering flaw snuck in there on a new bike. It can happen. No doubt it will be back once it's fixed. Still looks like a great bike. This is far better than denying the problem exists.
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Iamike
Posted on Sunday, December 12, 2010 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't you remember the heat problems that the FJR & ST1300 had (have)? Didn't the FJR's release get held up due to it?

Maybe a big company like the big 3 can afford to hold up one model for awhile while Buell had to try and deal with it during production.

I still credit the Badweb for helping me head off the problems that would creep up with my S3. In the meantime 3 different dealers blew off most of the issues and told me things like "They all run that way" or "Don't believe everything you read on the internet". I still believe Buell's downfall was the dealer network and not Buell's fault.
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46champ
Posted on Sunday, December 12, 2010 - 04:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think it is great that the start up company Erik Buell Racing have approximately 8500 of you doing systems R&D for their first public offering. To all of you who have bought 1125's I say thank you.
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Spatten1
Posted on Sunday, December 12, 2010 - 06:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Give 'em a break. When HD starts designing brand new engines every 2-3 years instead of every 15, they might have a teething problem or two, like cams galling.....

Kawi did the right thing, and has one hell of a record of making stout machines.

I've owned 5 Kawi street bikes, zero problems.

I've owned two Buells......I love my Buell.
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Kenm123t
Posted on Sunday, December 12, 2010 - 07:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Japanese M/C were so bad I stopped riding for 15 years The recall parts were for the most part Japanese vendor parts. Court Dave or Elf in the know can detail it better than I can
Honda wings with frames that needed a coupla extra passes at the local welding shop
Kawi 350s safest bike ever built would sieze up before you left your drive way Honda magnesium hubs on the Elsinore that broke after 1 moto pick a brand and you will find quality issues. In 35 years of riding Buell was the only company that sent recalls and pestered you till they were completed. And with out the government or courts telling them too. ( Not Our Court )
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Pwnzor
Posted on Monday, December 13, 2010 - 01:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Buell was the only company that sent recalls and pestered you till they were completed

This has not been my experience with Buell.
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