| Author | Message | ||
     Ccryder |
Anybody heard about this? PROGRESSIVE AUTO INSURANCE This is a heads up regarding Progressive Auto Insurance. You know who they are. They’re the ones with the clever television ads featuring the perky brunette actress all dressed in white. What you might not know is that the Chairman of Progressive is Peter Lewis, one of the major funders of leftist causes in America. Between 2001 and 2003, Lewis funneled $15 million to the ACLU, the group most responsible for destroying what’s left of America’s Christian heritage. Lewis also gave $12.5 million to MoveOn.org and America Coming Together, two key propaganda arms of the socialist left. His funding for these groups was conditional on matching contributions from George Soros, the America-hating socialist and chief financier of the Obama political machine. Lewis made a fortune as a result of capitalism, but now finances a progressive movement that threatens to destroy the American free enterprise system that is targeting television shows on Fox News. Peter Lewis is making a fortune off of conservative Americans so that he can help dismantle the very system that made him wealthy. He’s banking on no one finding out who he is. Please boycott Progressive Insurance. Let’s get the word out! Verify at Snopes: http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/peterlewis .asp | ||
| Froggy |
My quarterly insurance bill with Progressive is due this month ($800ish), I will gladly pay the bill.  | ||
| Maximum |
I dumped Progressive a year ago when they wanted to bill me $1400 per year just for the 1125R. I now have three bikes with dairyland for $800...about $450 for the 1125 (full coverage). | ||
| Buellkowski |
You pays your money and you takes your choice. | ||
| Arbalest |
ccryder, all the more reason for me to have Progressive Insurance. I also disagree with your characterizations. Just because someone does not subscribe to your political views does not make them anti-American or unpatriotic. Why the surprise anyway???? After all, the name of the company is PROGRESSIVE Insurance. | ||
| Whatever |
Similar, but of the opposite nature, why I won't join the NRA... although I support their core mission, they keep supporting facisism by contributing to conservative right wing politicians...  to each his own I guess... | ||
| Reepicheep |
Interestingly here in Ohio there was a pro second amendment democratic governor running against a republican challenger who had a fairly poor voting record on gun rights. The NRA was fairly vocal in giving the *Democrat* their strong support, and running negative adds against the Republican. So you are good to donate to the NRA Char. | ||
| Carbonbigfoot |
Anybody want to seriously defend the recent (last decade or so) actions of the ACLU? Seriously? R | ||
| Ccryder |
All I was doing was conveying a message from other concerned people, no characterizations on my part. I did follow the link to Snopes (even though their characterizations can be tainted and leaning left, as shown many times before) to give a little reality check. There are BIG $'s out there supporting many individuals agenda's, some trying to do things that may not have everyone's best interests at heart. As stated in the beginning: "Anybody heard about this?" Time2Support Neil | ||
| Fahren |
As to the ACLU,we may not like the specifics of all the causes they take up, but that's part of living in a free society: you have to allow the bad right alongside the good. If we start allowing others to DICTATE what is good vs. bad, then you end up with a DICTATOR. You can go on all day being upset at any number of specific cases they take on, but their mission of defending civil liberties is a vital one. As to Progressive Insurance, I'll go with them if they offer me the best deal I can find on my car insurance. But like Maximum, above, Dairyland gave me a way better deal for bikes. Unfortunately, they do not do cars in NY State. | ||
| Iamarchangel |
Here I thought the ACLU was right wing. Why do American Christians always think they need political protection after what Jesus has to say about that? When Christians in other countries, who live less material lives, are persecuted? When persecution is supposed to be the norm for Christians? Read the book, especially James. Anybody else here boycott Rockstar? | ||
| Jaimec |
Facts have a known liberal bias -- S. Colbert. | ||
| Ferris_von_bueller |
Why do you think they are called "Progressive"? | ||
| Ccryder |
LOL, you are reading my mind!!!!!!! | ||
| Sifo |
Illinois Farmers covers both our bikes for about $600. Bizarre comments. NRA almost supported Harry Reid this past election. They finally chose to officially stay neutral. They support the second amendment, not right wing politicians (it may just seem that way because the commies on the left want to erase the second amendment in their quest for power and control). I have no idea what the comments about Christians and the ACLU have anything to do with anything in this thread. It's humorous that the lefties suddenly have no problem with a corporation that spends money to promote a political ideology. Just a short time ago they had their panties all wadded up over the Supreme Court decision saying this was OK. "OMG the sky is falling... How can they let EVIL corporations make political contributions!!!". I guess they just have a flexible sense of the constitution. Progressive Insurance... They don't get my $$$. I get better coverage for less from an evil corporation.  | ||
| Buellkowski |
The donations cited are Mr. Lewis' personal donations, not Progressive Insurance's. If you're going to boycott every company whose chairperson's politics you don't agree with, your boycott list is likely to be quite long. Do any of us care what Erik's political leanings are? | ||
| Sifo |
I don't view it as a boycott. There's no need to boycott it in my case. Practical choice makes it a poor choice. Progressive has a long way to go before their political leanings even become a tiebreaker. If Erik made an issue of his politics, then it might be a factor in my choice of rides. To my knowledge, Erik doesn't do that, so it's not an issue. I support a corporations to exercise their rights to free speech as described by our constitution, and to accept the consequences that may follow. | ||
| Ninefortheroad |
I'm with Neil... Knowledge is power. If a corp/company/private business/owner/ect supports someone or something I do not approve of, then I vote with my dollar by not doing business with them. Sometimes even if it is more expensive. My best buy is still with the gecko. | ||
| Iamarchangel |
Sifo: my questions about the ACLU and Christians come from third paragraph of original post. I get confused when I see things like this post. As other posters have said, my understanding is that capitalism allows earning money for one's own use. Seems to me that is a fundamental principle. Also had the impression that separation of church and state prevented interference into donations following one's conscience. So, he earns it, gets to keep it, and can do pretty well what he wants with it. Like I said, I get confused when I see socialist type interference using right wing language. But, I like knowing, then I vote with my feet. | ||
| Sifo |
Sifo: my questions about the ACLU and Christians come from third paragraph of original post. You fell off the cliff of any sort of comprehensible statement when you said the ACLU was right wing. After opening with that statement, nothing else makes much sense. | ||
| 86129squids |
"Here I thought the ACLU was right wing." Umm, as I read that, clearly the sarcasm filter wasn't on for U, Sifo. Retry. | ||
| Sifo |
Michael has a history of being that wrong on issues in the US. I wasn't sure it was sarcasm. Still not. | ||
| Crackhead |
The ACLU is one of the most important organizations out there. They support the constitution / laws when some people what to look at them their own way. | ||
| Sifo |
They have a very selective support of the constitution. | ||
| 86129squids |
Each of us should support this document as best we can. I once was a member of the ACLU- they still waste paper and postage trying to get me to rejoin. I also once had subscriptions to Mother Jones, the Utne Reader, Reader's Digest... Wow- the media environment has changed. My karma ran over my dogma. | ||
| Iamarchangel |
Michael has a history of being that wrong on issues in the US. I wasn't sure it was sarcasm. Still not. Understand your confusion on that one. It's a bit of both. The ACLU, by nature, takes on all comers. They've supported Nazis, Oliver North and WBC. So, yes, they've taken some hard right stands. It's your Constitution they're trying to defend. That's pretty well a right wing action all by itself. However, I can accept that, and Ollie North. (btw, your disagreeing doesn't make me "wrong", we're just not agreeing.) | ||
| Blake |
>>> Just because someone does not subscribe to your political views does not make them anti-American or unpatriotic. Agreed. What makes them anti-American is their disdain for America and the core principles upon which it was founded. Communism is anti-American. Socialism is anti-American. Progressivism is anti-American. I ditched that insurance years ago when I learned of the CEO's political activities. | ||
| Gentleman_jon |
I'll be looking for a new carrier today. Not very complicated to me. I don't want to support someone who is attacking my country and my values. Questions, anyone?  | ||
| Xb1200rick |
Thanks for the info  | ||
| Xbimmer |
Maybe that explains why the asshats raised my rates 20% last June as a reward for a spotless driving record and 0 claims. 2010 election cycle, you know... Their current ad with the older couple getting a discount for being good repeat customers is plain BS. |
