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S1wmike
Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 08:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hilary is looking a lot like the old gold bowling pins the PBA used to use these days.

I was thinking more like The Great Pumpkin

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Buellerandy
Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 08:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone seen Pwn?
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Etennuly
Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 09:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think it was Arnie spooling up for a new movie to come out about the time he becomes unemployed(when ever that might be). He was just doing a screen test to see if he could hold and fire a shoulder launched weapon of the next size up from some of his earlier movies(gotta be bigger and better to sell in the box office).....not bad for a guy of his generation if you ask me.

Jon, you wearing your aluminum foil hat?
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 09:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

First of all, it's not a hat, silly.

It's a beanie.

I just hate it when people get that wrong.


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Of course I'm wearing it, I mean isn't everyone?

Pretty sure Glitch has his on, no reason not to, really.....

Am I right, my brothers?

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Etennuly
Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A thousand apologies sir! My errant ways of mis-identifying such an important piece of equipment have to stop now. I will do my research to the ends of the Earth if needed to make sure I do not call a 'beanie' a 'hat' in the future.

But in my defense, that is NOT the picture of you in your hat.....er.....a.....beanie, that has floated around here in the past!
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A simple misunderstanding, dear fellow, not to worry.

A properly worn and specified anti-phlogiston beanie will ALWAYS alter the appearance of the wearer, if it is working correctly.

That is the entire point of the exercise, is it not?

I mean, aside from protection against the harmful rays that are oh so common now a days.

Clear?

It is true that I normally wear my anti-phlogiston beanie under more conventional head gear.

I guess you could call me an "Older but Wiser" , "All the Gear All the Time" kinda guy.

But then again, who isn't?

Is this what you had in mind?


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PS: Now it's almost a day later, and there is no credible explanation for the "missile".
Looks like a major grade gov't cover up or an enemy shot across our bows, either by the Chinese, Hilary, The Motor Company, the vast right wing conspiracy, or more likely, some combination of the above.
Simple prudence might dictate that all Bad Webbers don their protective gear at the next obvious opportunity.
"Better safe than sorry", as my late father oft observed.

(Message edited by gentleman_jon on November 10, 2010)
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Buellbozo
Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 01:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd throw in a guess about a major Aurora malfunction, but everybody knows there's no such thing, right?

As for protective gear, here on the BadWeb, I find 'sbestos britches to be most valuable. No need for an alloy chapeau here, as a longhair I have been using the frequency filters our Maker provided.

Works great for blocking out___ and ___ and____ oh crap, I can't remember.

Must still be workin'!
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Etennuly
Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 01:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So we should be wearing ALL of our safety gear? That would be riding gear with full face with aluminum lining, chrome like reflective lens, rubber contamination suit, gas mask, and hang out in our underground bomb shelters while wearing a condom, Right?

I'm a little out of practice since the "duck and cover" drills of my youth of the early sixties. I'm sure there are some up dates that go beyond covering one's head under a first grade desk.
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 02:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Prepare for the worst, hope for the best", I always say.

What with your rubber contamination suit and condom, I would say you are perfectly prepared for better or worse.



On an ever so slightly more serious note, I am beginning to think this event is something really big.

The government is in full CYA mode, sending retired admirals to Fox News to explain how it was just an airplane.

I have been watching airplanes take off for over fifty years. I used to live near JFK and LaGuardia airports, and spent six months next to McQuire Airforce base.

In addition from my office on the top floor of the Chrysler Building in Manhattan, I could view take offs and landings at the three New York airports through a high powered telescope, over a period of twenty years.

Strange that I never saw an airplane take off looking anything remotely like the video in question.

Not only that, but no such airplane, commercial, civil or military has been positively identified.

This is getting more curious by the minute.

In another strange development, the entire subject was suddenly removed from the Drudge report which had had it as the lead article since last night.

Perhaps Froggy could further explain the Notice to Airmen that he posted, with a view towards explaining its relevance, if any, to the matter at hand.
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Greg_e
Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 02:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yahoo and AOL have also stopped running it, was it really a spoof or is it being suppressed?
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Buellkowski
Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 02:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 03:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Shepard Smith on Fox reporting it right now.

FAA denies any fast targets, DoD has nothing.

Fox says reports claiming to be airplane contrails just make no sense.

Pentagon saying "no information " leading to believe it was anything but an airplane contrail. Still no confirmation of what plane.

Norad: we didn't monitor any foreign missile launch, no threat to US was detected.

Fox is remaining very skeptical of all reports to date.

I'm with Shep Smith: I would like to hear one story from the Gov't that made any sense at all.

Now two guests appear. That's what I like about Fox.
One says it's a missile the other says it's an airplane.

The missile guy is
Teal Group's Marcus Caceres says it is a dummy ICBM,
or an unauthorized commercial test rocket. Satellite imagine will add more info in a couple of days. Contrail doesn't look like any airplane from vertical trajectory. If it were a horizontal trajectory it could be a plane, but not this speed and vertical.

Now we are waiting for an expert who says it was an
airplane.

Shepard Smith says he will explain all at the end of the program.

Stay tuned, sports fans.
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Now Shep has Michio Kaku, a theoretical physics professor.
Says it isn't an ICBM because, it is going in the wrong
direction, not accelerating, so even though it looks like it is going away, it is coming toward the camera, could be a plane arriving from Hawaii to LA.
In addition, recent radar study shows nothing as fast as a rocket in the area.
Kaku still doesn't understand Pentagons reluctance to say what it was, or identify the airplane.
Considering the time, and location, the plane should be easy to identify.
Local jet pilots say they did not see anything unusual because of their different view point.
Conclusion: it is a Jet, still would be nice to know which one it was.
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Buellbozo
Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 04:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ya know, 30-40, or even 50 years ago, if it'd been an SR71 or U2, the govt. would be acting the same way it is now.

But they didnt have the baying hounds of the 24hr. news cycle to deal with. Cronkite wouldn't wait until all Rupert's advertisers were happy to tell us what it was "at the end of the program".

It may well have been a tragic, or near tragic malfunction of a manned aircraft.

U2s didn't exist until FGP got shot down.

SR71s didn't exist until civvies got enough fuzzy pics of 'em in places like Kadena.

And there's big difference between a contrail and a rocket exhaust plume.

Aurora's plenty fast enough to have made that track. It's just that they're not supposed to leave any at all. If that's what it was, it was a bad malfunction, and I, for one, hope the pilot lived through it.

And one last note for you youngsters...

We used to fly planes into outer space, and land 'em right back home at Muroc (Edwards) routinely. They were the 3 X-15s, and they went higher and faster than either of the first two Mercury missions. Until his recent passing, Scott Crossfield was the fastest human ever to pilot an aircraft.

Not tryin' to convince anybody, but I'll bet a cup of coffee (Waffle House, not Starbuck's) it was Aurora or the scramjet.

Any takers?

EDIT...If it was Aurora, radar ain't gonna be much help.

(Message edited by buellbozo on November 10, 2010)
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 04:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for that Greg.
First thing I have heard so far that makes any sense at all.


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Possible rendering of unknown Aurora Aircraft.

I would love to buy you a cuppa your favorite Java and learn a bit more.

That doesn't mean I'm going to go bare headed any time soon.

Damn shame you are about a thousand miles away.
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Buellkowski
Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 04:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Reading about Aurora now. If it exists, more likely unmanned, yes?

And yes, I acknowledge there are plenty of "You didn't 'see' anything, kid. Understand?" anecdotes out there.
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Buellbozo
Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 04:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The X plane guys were my heroes in the day.
Read "X15 Diary" by Richard Tregaskis for some amazing info.

My Dad worked for Goodyear Aircraft Corp for 42 yrs. in the aircraft wheel and brake prototype shop. He, and several of his buds, turned out the X15 nose wheels on a Bullard vertical turret lathe. He also got to turn the rims for both of Breedlove's LSR cars.

Even though Art Arfons was sponsored by Firestone, they came to GAC for the rims for the Green Monster LSR car.

Sorry for the hijack...Dad passed at age 93 a few months ago. Hadda throw a brag his way.
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Buellbozo
Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


BadAss Bird
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86129squids
Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 05:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Quick- someone call Scully and Mulder, they'll know!!!
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Ratyson
Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 05:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It was just a lost Polish crop duster... no need to worry.
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Larryjohn
Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 07:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Definitely a conspiracy. Good thing we have so many experts out there on the television and interwebs.

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/11/10/blogger- solved-california-missile-mystery/
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Etennuly
Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 07:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gotta love those mid sixties hot rods!
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Luftkoph
Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 07:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the sky is falling the sky is falling,everybody has their pantys in a bunch
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 07:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I always loved the story of Neil Armstrong's record setting flight in the X-15.

Because of turbulence during the climb under the B-52, the inertial nav system was off. He dropped and climbed as planned, but part of the plan was a level off on the way down to stretch the distance to ensure being in the right place to land. Because of the nav system error, he pulled out of the plummet back to Earth a touch steep, and ended up too high and too fast for the wings to generate enough lift to turn. The chase pilot is yelling at Armstong to turn, he's got the X-15 rolled 90deg., stick all the way back, and it's heading for LA at mach3+ and not turning at all. Ended up flying to Orange County, made his turn over the San Gabriel mountains, laying a Sonic boom over the Valley, and after deciding Not to try to land at the county airport, glided all the way back to Edwards, and landed on the lakebed, but on the far side of where he was supposed to. Armstrong claims he landed short on purpose, since there was water in the middle of the lake, and he knew he couldn't stretch all the way across to the planned landing strip.

Post flight analysis showed he was below tree top height on a straight in approach through the trees at the edge of the lakebed.

Record set? Longest flight in the X-15 program, both time and distance. That was 1950-1960' tech, and nobody has done better ( that they admit ) since. We built the coolest stuff back then.

Aurora is generally thought not to be. ( darnit ) It's existence was inferred from large sums of money going into a black program at Lockheed. It turned out to be for the rental of the Glomar Explorer, and the development of the Sea Shadow stealth ship. They would haul the thing out at night and run it around using the G Explorer as a mobile dock, and on one occasion sailed right through a U.S. Carrier group without being spotted.

Pity, we really really need a replacement for the Blackbird.

I have no clue what the contrail is. Either a solid fuel rocket, ( could be several, Harpoon, Stinger, JL-2 ( Chicom ) ) or a aircraft contrail.... I would need a better look at the footage.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 08:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not to play chicken little, but every time the State & Commerce guys bitch about China's money policy, ( screw everyone, just like the current U.S. Fed policy ) some Chinese General makes an "offhand" remark to the press about how China could nuke LA before we'd be able to react. ( usually the same guy who denies China killed anyone in Tienanman Square... who you going to believe? him, or your lying eyes? )

Since State is making noises about China's money policy right now, a sub launched practice missile off LA would be a mild escalation from the Chicom standpoint.

After all, they own us, what're we going to do about it?

But it's far more likely a Standard Missile popped off by a U.S. ship at sea. Darn dumb place to do a secret test, though. So I'm going to bet Venusians.
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Buellbozo
Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 08:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


Long Landing


Just fer grins...

Even the best pilots can have a bad day now and then.
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Buellbozo
Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Venusians...Living and working amongst us as we speak".

I knew Nicholson was right!!!

But obviously, he shoulda slept with his head gear on.
HeadGear
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Ccryder
Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 09:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Try this: http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1421.htm

Gotta get my Al foil hat on...............
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Slaughter
Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2010 - 04:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/11/10/blogger- solved-california-missile-mystery/
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2010 - 06:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think Obama found the launch codes that Clinton lost while in office.

http://www.omg-facts.com/view/Facts/17408

"Hey, what do these do?"
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