| Author | Message | ||
     Geforce |
It's here! Today is launch day and if you have no idea what this is but you like console games then head to your nearest game stop or equivalent and check out the demo system. We sold our Wii (Wife was a fan, me... not so much.) to buy this thing, bad part is... mine is sitting at the FT Leonard Wood Game Stop, and I am at FT Knox instructing for the next week.  If anyone gets a hold of it, let me know what you think. Our whole family is excited to play "controller free" games. I even have my 70+ year old Dad wanting to check it out when he comes up to visit for the holidays. He's always been disinterested in controllers but when I told him that all you have to do is use your body, well, he was pretty excited. (Kinect was not intended to replace first person shooter games and be the "end all" for video gaming. Instead, it is a compromise between motion capture sensory that enables several players to interact with a game in very different ways... controller free.) | ||
| Americanmadexb |
Looks cool. To bad my TV is to close to my couch. I think it needs 6-8 feet and I am right at 6 feet. I'm guessing there will be alot of blown MCL's and back problems to come.  | ||
| Xdigitalx |
Is there a "Learn to be a stripper" version? | ||
| Andymnelson |
It will be a fantastic replacement for 1st person shooters. Imagine a gun with real triggers- Kinect will sense the position and aim of the gun, the triggers, well...trigger the shooting. You actually have to crouch, crawl, jump etc. Wheeee! | ||
| Spike240sx |
Picked mine up at the midnight release. Current game support is not great at all. But we all know whats in the future. I cant wait to have COD on Kinect. My legs are gonna hurt like hell standing in front of my tv all day! It is super acurate too. didnt miss a beat with the few games we were playing last night! | ||
| Jandj_davis |
Is there anything other than dancing games for it right now? | ||
| Froggy |
Call me when Microsoft gives the 360 support for a mouse and keyboard. I don't give a hoot about Kinect, mostly due to the fact its not compatible with my setup. | ||
| Swordsman |
Call me when the release a holodeck. ~SM | ||
| Spike240sx |
Umm.... 360 does have Keyboard support. Why would you need a mouse though? | ||
| Guell |
a mouse is far far better for a fps, a controller lacks precision. | ||
| Froggy |
The keyboard support in the 360 is limited to typing. There is no mouse support either. There is a device out there that will let your keyboard and mouse work as a virtual controller, but it isn't exactly perfect. I do plan on picking one up anyway eventually to try it out. | ||
| Spike240sx |
If its about precision..... thats what kinect is about. just wait till till your standing in front of your tv with a life size m16 mowing down the baddies. All your movements will be tracked via kinect. How more precise could you be than actually having to mimick the movements of a true soldier. | ||
| Guell |
sorry man, i have no desire to stand in front of my tv holding a fake gun, and im still sure id be better with a mouse. | ||
| Froggy |
Well going back to that then, the Kinect fails horribly. With a minimum distance of about 6 feet, it would be looking behind the back wall of my room. I am about 2 feet away from my screen. Also, I can sure as hell bet you $100 that I can outdo anyone playing by connect when I have a mouse and keyboard. The Kinect is about as precise and fast as a musket. The Wii's setup is better, as it uses an actual controller and not a webcam. I don't have any FPS games for it, so my experience is limited to the Link Target Practice set of mini games, and I thought it was fantastic. Still, it dosen't hold a candle to the speed and control of a mouse and keyboard. | ||
| Guell |
^^ exactly, i wish i could cross play borderlands online with me on my pc and everyone else on 360 and ps3. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
a mouse is far far better for a fps, a controller lacks precision. I wish I could go toe to toe with you on a keyboard. I'd like to put that statement to the test. | ||
| Froggy |
There has been a rumor floating around about MS killing a project to allow PC Halo players to play online against Xbox ones. The project was real, but the rumor was that it was killed because of how the PC players could easily dominate. http://www.rahulsood.com/2010/07/console-gamers-ge t-killed-against-pc.html I'm sure hacking and other security issues were a major factor for it being aborted, but it still wouldn't surprise me. | ||
| M1combat |
It doesn't need to be tested anymore Ftb  ... Mouse and Kyb wins. No contest. It's not even close. Controllers lack precision and more importantly precision with speed. | ||
| Guell |
i like headshots, something you just cant continuously have with a controller unless it has some sort of auto aim enabled | ||
| Froggy |
This looks interesting! I am sure a mouse is still faster, but this probably takes the cake for fun | ||
| Treefrog |
My wife picked up a Kinect today for the kids. I'm breaking a sweat, but I'm kicking everyone's butt. The kids sound like they just sprinted a 440 and this thing shows they have the speed and agility of a 3 toed sloth.  | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I consistently get head shots. I've got no aim bots. I do agree that it is harder to be good on a console. Keyboard players need the extra help. | ||
| Geforce |
I cannot to wait to get home and pick ours up and try it out. Something I had been readin online about it... "It doesn't matter who is playing, you all feel equally silly playing the games with ridiculous poses." I'm an avid PC gamer, I like the console because of it's portability and relatively fun/easy gameplay. A keyboard and mouse is far superior to any controller hands down. I used to play Halo extensively on PC as well as other legacy FPS games since the creation of Doom, Unreal and Quake... a well practiced mouse and keyboard player can be surgical and deadly in no time. Kinect for me isn't about FPS games though, it's about playing around and having fun with the family and kiddos. @ Guell - Borderlands is one of my FAV games on Xbox... Love it! That and Mass Effect I/II. | ||
| Seanp |
There's just something about lounging back in the sofa and playing a game on a big-ass HDTV, not worrying about typing and mousing and doing all that crap I do all day with my hands. I used to play games on PCs, but I got really tired of always having to upgrade my video card, upgrade my RAM, upgrade my CPU every time the latest and greatest game came out. It also has something to do with wanting to get the heck away from a desk and monitor, and move to somewhere more comfortable. Plus it looks a lot less dorky to sit around a TV with a bunch of people passing a controller around taking turns playing COD or Madden than it does with a bunch of people squished into a little home office crowded around a 27-inch monitor. | ||
| Hammer71 |
It's racist | ||
| Geforce |
"It's racist" LMAO! | ||
| Xdigitalx |
That gun looks cool... But if the fighting gets intense...one could get carried away pretty easy and move around too much. I could see that guy banging into his garage door. People would have to leave the room for safety. lol | ||
| Froggy |
Well Sean its understandable, being that gaming is kinda difficult on a mac! The graphics hardware issue is for the most part irrelevant these days. Everything in the computers (except hard drives) have evolved to the point that you can run latest and greatest games on 4 year old hardware. Ok, you probably wouldn't be able to do it at 2560x1600 with ultra high settings, but you would be surprised what even a modern cheapo rig can do. I personally run a 3 generation old video card (for processing), and a 4 generation old budget card (just for running displays), with an early Core2Duo processor. I only plan on upgrading my videocards just to reduce power consumption and gaining more available slots as I can run my 5 monitors off only one card then. I had a feeling the "racism" thing would happen to kinect. It is a problem in general with facial recognition software, as due to the darker skin it has a hard time picking up facial features, and as result the camera can't tell if you are a person or a lamp that is falling off the table. The only real solution till software gets better is to play in a brighter and more well lit environment, that way it gives your body and face a better contrast. Xdigitalx, people have that problem already with throwing Wiimotes around! I've almost had it happen after really getting into a game and starting to get sweaty palms, they tend to slip easily | ||
| Hammer71 |
Not racist anymore. http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2010/11/05/131 092329/xbox-kinect-not-racist-after-all | ||
| Pwnzor |
I'm with Froggy here. Thumb controllers = fail. |
