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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Sunday, September 12, 2010 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was perusing the Facebook thread earlier, & it stimulated me to comment on the horrible distortions of the English language that I find these days, such as "friending". You can't friend someone but you can befriend them, & don't get me going on un-friending!!

Another pet hate is Badass. I'm sorry but the only time I'm badass is when I've been eating out of date prawns or the like.

Feel free to vent your spleen here.



Btw, I'm an undercover agent for the grammar police.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Sunday, September 12, 2010 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I <3s u


text speak is my pet peeve
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Froggy
Posted on Sunday, September 12, 2010 - 05:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Friending is an actual word.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Friending

quote:

tr.v. friend·ed, friend·ing, friends
1. To add (someone) as a friend on a social networking website.
2. Archaic To befriend.




So is Badass.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Badass

quote:

bad·ass (bds) Vulgar Slang
n.
A mean-tempered or belligerent person.
adj.
Mean; belligerent.




If you are gonna bitch about English, you have to bring up actual issues, like "dat", "yur", and miss use of works like "your"
: )
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Doerman
Posted on Sunday, September 12, 2010 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Friend through "friending":
A virtual connection is made and you have one more count in the "friend bucket"

Friend:
A person you have gotten to know through direct social interaction and a will stand by you in thick and thin. A person you can count on to bail you out should you get into trouble

Great friend:
You and your friend sit in jail and can't quite remember how that happened.
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Slaughter
Posted on Sunday, September 12, 2010 - 06:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Whatever
Posted on Sunday, September 12, 2010 - 07:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

gr8!
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Iamarchangel
Posted on Sunday, September 12, 2010 - 07:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

People get into this snobbery without realizing how rapidly language changes. You've got old, high, Elizabethan, classic English not to mention the Celtic or American variants.

People from those times wouldn't quickly understand people from our times. Or even different areas in the same time.

Get over it.
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Crusty
Posted on Sunday, September 12, 2010 - 07:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

4Q2
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Blk_uly
Posted on Sunday, September 12, 2010 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We have one of the most fluid languages in the world. I for one am proud of our American English. It can be stretched, changed added suffixes and prefixes to mean exactly what we want to say. If you want to say something unusual, but don't have the words, just modify an existing word or phrase and most people will get the idea. It's a beautiful thing.
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Sunday, September 12, 2010 - 07:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Didn't the texting language start back when text messages were limited at a certain number of characters per message? I think it was more of a way to say more in one message to save on the costs per message.
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2008xb12scg
Posted on Sunday, September 12, 2010 - 07:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

dees treads iz da shiznit!
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Pwnzor
Posted on Sunday, September 12, 2010 - 08:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

freedictionary.com is not a real dictionary. It's more a cross between the "urban" dictionary and a real one. It's like relying on Snopes to debunk theories...

Snopes... LOL

Try Merriam-Webster's Dictionary

If you don't like what you read, then... don't read it.

Your eyes belong to you.
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Doerman
Posted on Sunday, September 12, 2010 - 08:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Get over it.
Nope. A crisp language with universally understood expressions is valuable.

Dilute it with colloquialisms and weird concatenations and misunderstandings run rampant.

@Badlionsfan. I think it had much to do with the art of "typing letters on a number pad" where:
"Are you going to" is quicker to write as:
"r u going 2". Can't say for sure.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Sunday, September 12, 2010 - 08:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Swordsman
Posted on Sunday, September 12, 2010 - 08:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you want to really cringe at the modern use of the language, go take a look at Lamebook. Grumpy will probably implode after 10 minutes there.

http://www.lamebook.com/

~SM
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Brumbear
Posted on Sunday, September 12, 2010 - 09:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Voted Best Scottish Short Joke

A bloke walks into a Glasgow library and says to the prim librarian,

'Excuse me Miss, dey ye hiv ony books on suicide?'

To which she stops doing her tasks, looks at him over the top of her glasses and says,

'Fook off, ye'll no bring it back!'
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Prior
Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 12:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A guy I work with mentioned that his children are no longer graded on spelling and grammar when writing; the teacher stated that computers are taking over for communication, and they have spell check.

So... Get used to seeing they're use's of speeling, grammeor and luanguage get muuch badder...

I cannot stand when one writes an email or memo, in a professional environment, or in general, with spelling and grammar errors. It's just poor communication, period, let alone how they personally communicate...
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 01:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A coworker was just at a parent night at her kids' school. They have whiteboards now like on CSI or NCIS - you get a "magic" pen and either touch character squares on the edge of the board, or write and it adapts your writing to legible text.

We have MACHINES that take the place of PENMANSHIP now??? IN SCHOOLS?!?!?!?!? (her kid is EIGHT, by the way).

It's like when I took photography. With a darkroom. And developer, fixer, and stop bath. And the occasional headache. Sure, digital is nice and you can take hundreds of photos to get one good one (love that law of averages) without "wasting" film...but you don't learn how to CREATE a photograph. There's no sense of urgency, or importance...mainly because you AREN'T "wasting" film.

Nevermind when I took writing.

Your.

You're.

They're.

Their.

The problem isn't the colloquialisms. It's the fact that kids aren't learning the RIGHT way to do things before they learn the SHORTCUTS. They just learn the shortcuts right off the bat...and that kills the language, because it BECOMES the language.

Fk "fluid". Teach it CORRECTLY, dammit. There's still plenty of interpretation to be had, even if it is "just" CORRECT ENGLISH. Otherwise, it probably wouldn't have survived this long.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 04:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

all of my foreign friends speak better english than my native contemporaries.

hell Loretta from S. Africa will biatch slap you if you drop a text speak or grammar bomb to her
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 08:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For Brumbear, to be read with a Northern Irish accent.

Man walks into a bakery & says,

"Is that a cream slice or a meringue?"

The girl replies,

"No, you're perfectly right, it's a cream slice."
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Hughlysses
Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 09:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nevermind when I took writing.

Your.

You're.

They're.

Their.


Add to that list:

To
Too
Two

I think the to/too one gets abused as bad as anything these days.
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Blake
Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 09:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>> You've got old, high, Elizabethan, classic English not to mention the Celtic or American variants.

No need for the "got". : ]
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Kyrocket
Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 09:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Grammar police unite!!

If not us then who? Who's going to teach these kids the proper use of the language? It's sure not the teachers. Well, some I know actually care for the kids, others are just there for the check and the summers off. My children hate when I do this but they are learning, it goes something like this.

Kids: Me and so and so did that.
Me: Who?
Kids: Me and so and so.
Me: Who?
Kids: ME AND SO AND SO.
Me: WHO?
Kids: (this time with sheepish look) so and so and I.

It's hard to re-teach them when all of their peers are talking to them improperly all day. I try not call attention to it on here simply because an internet chat is about as informal as you can get. I just cringe behind my monitor where you can't see me: ) And before I step down please oh please capitalize AMERICA. Not all of it mind you, just the beginning.
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Blake
Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 09:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The one that causes me pain is "are" in place of "our".

I know, the period is supposed to go inside the quote, but I just can't force myself to put it there for a one word quotation.
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Court
Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 09:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blake:

I'm with you on the period.

I've started grading papers down for some of the crap I saw last semester.

Let's face it, by the time you reach graduate school at an Ivy League school you should know 8th grade English.

Lord knows it's not my long suite but some of the things I have been seeing are alarming.
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Not_purple_s2
Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

incorrect use of homonyms drives me up the wall, especially the ones that aren't even close to being related.
there used for their or they're
are vs our
break vs brake
write vs right or actually using "rite"
wait vs weight
ect. ect.

also, dropping the k or w in "know"

I can forgive the occasional error. I make them too. But when when it's used over and over again it's not an error, the writer is just a complete moron.
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Xben9r
Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

trikd agan.... i thinkn ths wuz abot hte bnd Bad English... ohs wel hety stilz ROX. there mine favz. are cd s our ful of dem.

Ben

(Message edited by xben9r on September 13, 2010)
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86129squids
Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 02:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

MR snakes
MR knot
OSAR
CMBDIZ?
LIB
MRsnakes!
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Dwardo
Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 02:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

... and my pet peeve, the gratuitous use of an apostrophe before every "s". I see this all the time, on professionally painted signs.
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Buellkowski
Posted on Monday, September 13, 2010 - 06:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



Teabonics.
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