| Author | Message | ||
     Xdigitalx |
The bible compels Christian's to spread the word of God. It doesn't compel them to kill those who won't convert. There's a significant difference there. The bible compels Christian's to spread the word of God. It doesn't compel them to kill those who won't convert. There's a significant difference there. The bible compels Christian's to spread the word of God. It doesn't compel them to kill those who won't convert. There's a significant difference there. Here is a good site: http://plancksconstant.org/ Some copied quotes from comments about muslim jokes: "In America everyone has the right to hate any religion. In Muslim countries, Muslims have the right to hate all other religions except Islam". "You want me to be open-minded about a religion whose main goal in life is the conversion, subjugation, or killing of infidels"? | ||
| Contra_mundum |
Some touching words from 'God'... Here, the Bible's God describes slavery: Exodus Chapter 21, verse 20: If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property. Exodus Chapter 21, verse 32: If the bull gores a male or female slave, the owner must pay thirty shekels of silver to the master of the slave, and the bull must be stoned murdering children... Isaiah chapter 13 Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. Exodus chapter 12 verse 28 The people of Israel did just as the LORD had commanded through Moses and Aaron. And at midnight the LORD killed all the firstborn sons in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn son of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn son of the captive in the dungeon. Even the firstborn of their livestock were killed. Pharaoh and his officials and all the people of Egypt woke up during the night, and loud wailing was heard throughout the land of Egypt. There was not a single house where someone had not died. | ||
| Hootowl |
Christians don't put much stock in the old testament. Jesus destroyed the temple, a symbol of religion and everything he thought was wrong. The new testament is the story of Jesus, and contains his teachings. You won't find much fire and brimstone there, and you won't find historical records of ancient battles, which is what was quoted above from the old testament. | ||
| Rwven |
"murdering children... Isaiah chapter 13 Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. Exodus chapter 12 verse 28 The people of Israel did just as the LORD had commanded through Moses and Aaron. And at midnight the LORD killed all the firstborn sons in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn son of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn son of the captive in the dungeon. Even the firstborn of their livestock were killed. Pharaoh and his officials and all the people of Egypt woke up during the night, and loud wailing was heard throughout the land of Egypt. There was not a single house where someone had not died." Contra, The first example you stated is a warning to Israel from God about what was going to happen TO ISRAEL. Your second example is given with no context. The Egyptians got justice that night commensurate with their crimes. Neither of these examples is saying what you think they are. | ||
| Cowboy |
I donot need any words writien by the muslim sempifiers. after living with them for about 30 yrs I can tell you that one on one they are very meek just you put 2 or more together and they become intolabale, and they want be happy till we are all dead. If you dont beleave this just live a few yrs with them. | ||
| Contra_mundum |
My point is that this religion is very violent as well. There are numerous examples throughout the bible. Deuteronomy Chapter 3 Next we turned and went up along the road toward Bashan, and Og king of Bashan with his whole army marched out to meet us in battle at Edrei. The LORD said to me, "Do not be afraid of him, for I have handed him over to you with his whole army and his land. Do to him what you did to Sihon king of the Amorites, who reigned in Heshbon." So the LORD our God also gave into our hands Og king of Bashan and all his army. We struck them down, leaving no survivors. At that time we took all his cities. There was not one of the sixty cities that we did not take from them—the whole region of Argob, Og's kingdom in Bashan. All these cities were fortified with high walls and with gates and bars, and there were also a great many unwalled villages. We completely destroyed them, as we had done with Sihon king of Heshbon, destroying every city—men, women and children. But all the livestock and the plunder from their cities we carried off for ourselves. They massacred all the men, women and children in 60 cities at God's request. Then there is Noah's flood, in which God massacred every single child on the face of the earth. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
They massacred all the men, women and children in 60 cities at God's request. It's called war. Not the sanitary, smart bomb, no collateral damage warfare we have today. Remember Coventry, Dresden, Tokyo, Nagasaki, Hiroshima? These were "modern" wars and thousands of women and children were killed. Odd that you aren't quoting any New Testament. | ||
| Doug_s |
i find it ironic that the only people who interpret the quran as literally calling forth all muslims to kill all muslims are the fanatical jihadists and the bigots who hate everything muslim. and, i guess it's ok for christians to proselytize that all non-believers will be going to hell. doug s. | ||
| Blake |
Only a moron argues ancient history as equal to current religious doctrine. Only the ignorant or anti-Christian bigots argue that historical records of warfighting from over two thousand years ago must stand in moral equivalence to the ceaseless jihad of islamists as mandated by their koran along with their brutal fascist sharia oppression and mass murder happening today and since the birth of islam 1400 years ago. Don't be a moron. Don't be ignorant or a bigot. I critisize the islamists and islam, the violent totalitarian cult not the people in general. If you've not read the koran and if you've not learned the history of islamism and its core doctrine and laws, and you are eager to tolerate the spread of islam while calling those who oppose it "biggots", then you are an ignorant fool who's willfull blindness is a threat to all who cherrish freedom. Learn: dhimmi, jizya, sharia law | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Odd that a Jew would defend a Muslim preaching destruction of a Judeo-Christian nation who is the leading supporter of a Jewish nation. I guess we are all just misguided in what we see and hear: | ||
| Doug_s |
"...They massacred all the men, women and children in 60 cities at God's request. It's called war. .." war - at god's request. this "god" must be a sick f**k... or, perhaps, it's the humans, who created god in their own image, the sick f**ks? doug s. | ||
| Blake |
Muslim apostate speaks about the goal of islam. | ||
| Blake |
Scholarly Analysis of the Quran and Its Stated Goal for Islam | ||
| Doug_s |
out-to-dinner-man is not a muslim. he's the freak ruler of a freak religious state. all religious states hide behind god to commit their atrocities. and, america, tho populated by a lot of judeo-christians, is, thankfully, a pluralist society, in spite of what some religious fanatics wish &/or believe. they'd like to make this place another freak nation, yust w/a different imaginary friend. doug s. | ||
| Contra_mundum |
"It's called war. " That's exactly my point. Religion, regardless if it's Islam nor Christianity, is violent. It's unfair to compare the 2 and claim that one is peaceful while the other is full extremist nut jobs...they go hand in hand. They both create an "us vs them" environment, which breeds hate and war. It just isn't progressive to our society. So the violence Old Testament isn't relevant? | ||
| Xdigitalx |
1. A journalist goes to Iraq and is surprised to see that the local men allow their wives to walk in front of them. The journalist approaches a local and says, "I thought the custom in Islamic countries was for wives to walk ten paces behind their husbands?" "It was," replied the local, "But that all changed with the war." "How did the war change things?" The journalist inquired. The local replied..., "Land mines." 2. Obama and Gordon Brown were recently shown a time machine which can see 100 years into the future. They both decide to test it by asking a question each. Obama goes first: "What will the USA be like in 100 years time" The machine whirs and beeps and goes into action and gives him a printout, he reads it out "The country is in good hands under the new president, crime is non-existent, there is no conflict, the economy is healthy. There are no worries" Gordon Brown thinks "Its not bad this time machine, I'll have a bit of that" so he asks "What will Britain be like in 100 years time?" The machine whirs, beeps, spits and coughs and goes into action, and he gets a printout. But he just stares at it. "Come on Gordon" asks Obama, "What does it say?" "I can't read it - It's all in Arabic!" | ||
| Blake |
Doug, Your childish ignorance is bewildering. If God found evil, why not obliterate it leaving no remnant left to return and grow anew. Did God mandate to Israel that they should conquer all through endless jihad? Have Israel and the Jewish people in particular behaved as though they seek to conquer the world and impose their religion, laws, and government upon us all? Do Christians behave that way? There is no honest moral equivalence between islamism and any other current religion. The closest moral equivalent to islamism was naziism, and Soviet communism. | ||
| Doug_s |
my childish ignorance? excuse me? go insult someone else. "if god found evil, why not obliterate it"? and you call me ignorant? you are a simpleton! the whole point is god didn't do or find ANYTHING!!! Those are words of man, used to yustify man's sick deeds. you are no better than the sick simpleton fanatic jihadists - calling on evil to be obliterated because god finds it evil. which god is right? man all you folks really are religious nut-jobs! doug s. | ||
| Oldog |
I do not need any words written by the Muslim [sempifiers.] SYMPATHIZERS after living with them for about 30 yrs I can tell you that one on one they are very meek just you put 2 or more together and they become intolerable, and they want be happy till we are all dead. If you don't believe this just live a few yrs with them. I do believe you, 30 years of experience have to count for some thing I don't have to read the quran, I have some in site as to how it came about, and what it says, AGAIN to convert or kill the infidels, pretty strait forward 2 attempts at destroying the WTC, with the second one succeeding, bombings, hostage takings, and murders peace loving, in a PIGS EYE .... its interesting to see how the bible verses are taken out of context and twisted . | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I don't know what to say to someone who doesn't recognize good and evil. | ||
| Doug_s |
"...There is no honest moral equivalence between islamism and any other current religion. The closest moral equivalent to islamism was naziism, and Soviet communism...." there is no one except fanatical sick f**k jihadists and fanatical sick f**k christians who interpret islam the way you spell it out, blake. damn, i thought most folks had evolved past the middle-ages crusades mentality. seems it's alive & well in america. hopefully, the constitution, battered tho it is, will still be able to keep church & state separate here.... doug s. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Odd that the Cleric you defend promoting the Islamic cultural center seeks to blur the lines between church and state by encouraging the import of sharia law. | ||
| Doug_s |
"I don't know what to say to someone who doesn't recognize good and evil." ya, so let's all go out & kill all the muslims, cuz they're all evil. and we'll be good, for doing it.  i don't know what to say to you, either, fatty. it's clear you don't have a clue about good & evil... doug s. | ||
| Xdigitalx |
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=664_1211220374 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv4Bk7qnX-8 | ||
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| Fast1075 |
It is amazing how a topic can morph. It is all still really simple to a dullard like myself....fanatic whackjobs should not have any sort of nuclear capability...ever. Of course, I'm a dullard, a regular mouth breathing knuckle dragger, so what do I know? If it was up to me, the so called "nuclear power station" would be a pile of smoking rubble...and there would be a few less whack job nutcases running around breathing precious air...including the greedy bastiges that provided the stuff to build it...the whack jobs don't need to do much to get what they want...wave some oil money around and people trip over their own feet to go get some. One of these days there will be a blinding flash of light and the destruction of a major city because of what is allowed today by greedy asshats....this whole thing makes me wanna puke. I had a chance a couple of years ago to sit one on one with a whackjob...Cowboy has it dead nuts on...maybe if you are real nice to them, they will shoot you in the head instead of hacking it off with a rusty knife and posting it on you tube. Best of luck with that. | ||
| Oldog |
man all you folks really are religious nut-jobs! now whos attempting to hurl insults? my "GOD" tells me to be kind to others, to be tollerant of their ways, to "turn the other cheek if slapped" ( ignore taunts and insults ) he did not say " allow murderous brigands to destroy your homes or harm your family ", or to " stand and be the victims of sens less violence in his name ", I have bombed no one, I have murdered no one, I have called the president some very unkind things, and would say it to his face! So my beliefs like We are the creation of a devine being and not some cosmic freek accident, that there is a GOD, His son died for me, and he loves me make me a "religious nut-job" hum the thread started with my posting about the horribly bad mistake the russians are about to make, providing the Iranians with Nuclear fuel, really odd that when the debates about moslems and the mosque or the like come up, we see posts where the comments fly in the face of facts.. I really wonder who the "nut jobs" are } | ||
| Doug_s |
yes, anyone who believes it's ok to kill in the name of god is a nut-job. for all those who think it's an insult, well, i do not apologize. i think it's a simple fact, not an insult. oldog, maybe you have not done bad things. but many "christians" have, in your name. many muslims have not done bad things, either. but, many "muslims" have, in their name. when you stoop down to that level, and say it's ok to attack them because they're evil or whatever, the enemy (whoever it is) has won, and you are no better than that which you say is inferior. doug s. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Who is saying to go kill Muslims? | ||
| Jstfrfun |
I would rather depend on "the content of a mans character", rather than the swill he spews before a group of his friends. But if when amongst his friends he picks up a weapon to prove himself "worthy of those friends", then he proves to have no character. |
