| Author | Message | ||
     Reindog |
Welcome to the Conservative Clubhouse! Now that Obama has out-Cartered Carter, who will out-Reagan Reagan, arguably the best American President since Lincoln? Ron Paul? Rand Paul? Newt Gingrich? Michelle Bachman? Bobby Jendall? Sarah Palin? Mitt Romney? Someone else? These are scary times with a Communist in the White House and a Congress that has shredded the US Constitution. The pendulum is going to have to swing back hard to the right if this country has any chance of remaining sovereign. | ||
| Sphere79 |
I quite like Gary Johnson, he's a Libertarian Conservative and has a bit in common with Ron Paul. Gary Johnson's Our America Initiative A real straight-talker, no politiciany sound-bytes or wishy washy answers from him. Not gonna fly with the "EVIL MUSLIMS EVERYWHERE!" neo-con crowd but we're broke people. We need to mind our own, attack hard and strong VIABLE threats (not "could be a threat someday") and trade as freely as possible. In other words, heed the Constitution and the words of the founders. (Message edited by sphere79 on August 03, 2010) | ||
| Kilroy |
Try Herman Cain | ||
| Aeholton |
I like Newt Gingrich, but not sure if he is electable by the masses. | ||
| Geforce |
Newt for prez 2012! | ||
| Spiderman |
can we just move this to the quick fire board now. You all know this isn't going to end well LOL | ||
| Swordsman |
I dig Ron Paul. Not sure who some of the others are. Be curious to see who the Republicans put up this time around. If they can't win this time, then we might as well move, 'cause common sense has left the building and won't be coming back. ~SM | ||
| Rwven |
Chris Christie / Paul Ryan | ||
| Nukeblue |
ron paul! but it will prolly be newt  another "contract with america" b.s. line | ||
| Pwnzor |
Larry Elder | ||
| Drkside79 |
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| Ft_bstrd |
Won't know. No one would have believed 2.5 years out from an election that a half term junior Senator from Illinois would have made it to the big dance let alone get elected. We'll get a better idea closer to the election. I hope I'm not disappointed again. I want someone I can pull the lever for enthusiastically rather than just as a lesser of two evils. I could have supported Ron Paul were it not for his stance on Iraq/Afghanistan. His strategy was errant in that it sought to win Democratic party faithful by crapping on the previous administration. McCain could have won but he's a gutless turd without a genuine moral compass bone in his body. All service to country aside, he would have been a better President than Obama but would have been far from good, a slightly less smelly sack of crap. | ||
| Reindog |
Great posts from civil posters! I have already learned about potential candidates who I have not known about. One of them will lead us out of this wilderness. Newt Gingrich is intelligent and is the best pick, but I too, have doubts about his electability. | ||
| Drkside79 |
Oh God please let the republicans put Newt/Palin up against Obama. Then I can hear you all bitch again for another 4 years.  | ||
| Swordsman |
Drk-y proves he can't read. Thread title: Don't open this thread if you are a Democrat, Progressive, Socialist, or Communist Pretty sure he fits at LEAST one of those.  ~SM (Message edited by Swordsman on August 03, 2010) | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I wouldn't mind Newt in the second seat, but I believe he is too much of a lightning rod to be elected. I believe the same for Sarah Palin. Romney is too centerist and I believe the pendulum has swung past him at this point. 2008 maybe. Post 4 years of Obama. Doubtful. Obama isn't in a position to be able to help himself or his party for the next two years. His approval rating is skating close to the sub 40% mark: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/pres ident_obama_job_approval-1044.html?utm_source=rcpw idget&utm_medium=widget&utm_campaign=email Carter's average approval rating after 4 years was 45.5%. Obama's after less than 2 is currently at 53% and trending downward. It is doubtful that anything will happen over the next 2.25 years that will substantially change the tide for Obama. Bush, as hated as he was in the media, still had a 49.4% average approval rating after 8 full years. Clinton only had a 55.1% average approval rating. | ||
| Acgwolfe |
I don't think you all are looking at the big picture. This is not about Dems or Rep, Obama is neither, he is a socialist. And that is the way he is guiding this country if the American people do not take a stand. | ||
| Buellerandy |
I'm to the point where IDGAF what side of the trough they're drinking from. I just want a GD president and congress that could care a little less about what party they are trying to satisfy and a little more about solving actual problems. Instead of clouding issues with republic vs dem BS how about making the issues at hand THE issue. I know it's a rant but seriously there's so many sheople that I can't believe anyone can make their own objective decision on anything going on in our country nowadays without someone whispering something in their ear. Normally I just select all and delete after typing responses like this but I just can't bring myself to do it this time lol. | ||
| Reindog |
Sarah Palin is not ready for Prime Time....yet. Her stepping down as Governor is a huge negative as she needs on the job experience. It took Ronald Reagan 16 years from his speech at the 1964 Republican convention before becoming President and he was also Governor of California along the way. The more the Left demonizes her will only lead to higher approval ratings over time. | ||
| Reindog |
Your point is well taken, Buellrandy. The issue is not Dem vs Rep, but it is one of Conservative leadership. Only a strong, fiscally Conservative government can save our nation. This country is being transformed into a nation of serfs, beholden to the government for a handful of corn, and increasingly fearful of taking risks. Our blindness is leading us to a place which will make the battle scenes in "The Pacific" seem like a Sunday picnic. | ||
| Stirz007 |
Palin is bad news - ask virtually anyone from Alaska. Who will the Republicans run? Romney seems like the only one with a real interest in doing the job he was elected to. Bobby Jindal, like Palin, was looking to the White House almost as soon as he was sworn in as governor. Sorry, but Libertarians are virtually unelectable, so somewhat of a waste of time at the end of the day, IMO. I do appreciate what they bring to the table, but unfortunately they have very little effect on the actual goings-on in Washington. One person in the White House really makes very little difference, IMO. For anything to happen in D.C., (good or bad) there has to be buy-in from a wide range of people (like your local elected representative). The best bet for trying to change things is to continue to hammer away at your local representatives and (the hardest part) keep up to speed on legislation and voice your opinion early and loudly. I think this is where most of us fail and are ultimately responsible for the situation we find ourselves in. "The people get the government they deserve". | ||
| Just_ziptab |
Just give me an HONEST American that has taken a Dale Carnegie Course.I hate these dim wits that can't speak/think on their feet in public...... no better than me......and I'm terrible at it. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
at this point do you think it matters what corrupt moron is at the helm when the motors locked at full steam ahead and its aimed for the shore ? | ||
| Daggar |
+1 Cityxslicker. And both parties want to keep heading for the shore at full speed. | ||
| Xbimmer |
Jan Brewer 2012... | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
The American people believe that the Federal government has drastically over reached it's Constitutional mandate. The election in November will be a statement on that fact as well as a referendum on what's happened over the last two years. The election in 2012 will be a statement on where the American people want to go over the next 2-4 years. 2006 was a referendum on the previous 2-6 years of Bush. In 2004, the American people weren't interested in seeking a different direction than was begun post 9/11. It appears that up to 88 seats are open to be picked up in the House for Republicans and up to 9-10 seats in the Senate. Some of the potential Senatorial losses for Democrats could include Harry Reid, Arlen Spectre, Evan Bayh. Should the Republicans retake the house and narrow the gap in the Senate, the question is going to be what will they do with the change? If the Republicans simply offer "socialist light" policies, the victory will be short lived. If they return to true Constitutionally conservative policies, there might be some hope for restoration of the country. It's obvious that most believe we are on a very wrong track: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/dire ction_of_country-902.html | ||
| Doerman |
Presidents need executive experience to be a candidate in my mind. None of this Senator "lofty goals and theoretical solution" BS! So, where's a good steady Governor when you need one! Who is Governor of North Dakota? That's one of the few states with a State surplus and as far away from the pollution effects of DC as you can get. Governor Hoeven is able to do the job. I don't have any idea if he is R or D. (Message edited by doerman on August 03, 2010) | ||
| Stirz007 |
Fatty - Who are the "american people" exactly? I say that because no one asked me or anyone I know (at least officially). Not trying to pick a fight, but I think you can recognize that there are a fair number of people in this country (fellow americans) who think the Government is NOT doing enough and needs to expand its mandate further. I personally tend to have Conservative views in regard to the Government's role and 'footprint', but there are a lot of folks who would be perfectly happy under a Socialist state. These are people who prefer to have someone else make their decisions for them. They vote, too. And Dubya was every bit as bad about trampling on the Constitution and spending us into the poorhouse as anti-Dubya. I have become non-partisan over the years as I think they are all the same animal barking different tunes. Clinton lies about a hummer and they're ready to crucify him. Dubya lies about justification for war, spies on Americans, thumbs his nose at the Geneva Convention, and spends us to the poorhouse, but that seemed to be all right and everyone goes along. Who did the greatest disservice to the Country? I don't get it sometimes. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Polls are a small sample large enough to draw conclusions about the results of the whole. Think of it as a taste of the barrel to determine the quality of the whole thing. They didn't ask you. They didn't ask me. And Dubya was every bit as bad about trampling on the Constitution and spending us into the poorhouse as anti-Dubya. Agree with the spending. He provided, with Uncle Teddy, "socialist light". Didn't see a single incidence of "trampling on the Constitution". I have become non-partisan over the years as I think they are all the same animal barking different tunes. Some are very similar. Some are not. The trick is to determine the bad apples and pull their plug. Clinton lies about a hummer and they're ready to crucify him. Dubya lies about justification for war, spies on Americans, thumbs his nose at the Geneva Convention, and spends us to the poorhouse, but that seemed to be all right and everyone goes along. Who did the greatest disservice to the Country? I don't get it sometimes. Clinton lied under oath and faced the charges for doing so. No one in 4 years and several investigations has proven that "Bush lied people died". His intel may not have been correct, but there is zero proof of intent to deceive. Spied on Americans? Really? Know any? Thumbed his nose at the Geneva Convention? How so? NONE of those detained were eligible for treatment under the Geneva Convention nor were they citizens of nations who were signators of the Geneva Convention. I'll agree with the spending. I called Bush out on this. If Uncle Teddy is signing off on something, you can bet the house that it's spending us into the poorhouse (Medicare prescription drugs, no child left behind, etc.). Were there no Bush, Obama's record would stand on it's own as awful. I don't bother to compare President to President. It's pointless. Bush was good in some areas and bad in others. Period. I haven't found a good area for Obama yet. Period. I hope the next President takes a hatchet to the Federal government. | ||
| Reindog |
Stirz007: Clinton = Liberal (W) Bush = Liberaler. Obama= Liberalest. Unfortunately, there is a world of difference betwen Bush and Obama. I did not like Bush but his mistakes will heal over time. The Communist boot at the throat of the American People is leading to permanent structural change. Take a mental note to ask your kids and grandkids 20-30 years from now: Who was worse, Obama or Bush? The most likely response will be (as they get ready to murder you), "Was there a President Bush?" |
