| Author | Message | ||
     2008xb12scg |
just wondering about lane splitting at lights. Why is that bad? I have a doge ram 1500 bright red. It's been rear ended twice sitting stopped. I'm a little worrid if people don't see the big red truck they might not see the little xb.. I'm not holding anybody up, I always make sure to pay attention when the light turns gree. Who am I hurting? I also lane split on the freeway. If you drive an aircooled bike in traffic I don't see much choice, and the rear ender thing too. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Ulynut, while I didn't mean black=animal I can see how it might be construed that way. I was bothered all night thinking about those visiting lane splitters and the sheer arrogance and ignorance they displayed. That being said it PALES in comparison to the picture Slaughter posted. Anyone participating in something like that should have their M1 license revoked (if they even have one) and lose their motorcycle permanently. | ||
| Firebolt32 |
Aint the guy on the right in the above pics white? Yeah, actually quite a few in the Ruff Ryders. I didn't take it as racist. I've got a black uncle, I was asked to be part of an all black Frat when in college...I just look at it as black and white. There's ignorance on all sides. I know everyone here has that friend that was like, "We just voted in a Black President?". The above picture would probably get me fumed only if I couldn't see what was going on. I HATE sitting in traffic. Hell, if no where to go and I could see, I'd sit and enjoy the show. I can't talk much about splitting at red lights because I've done it more than a few times, never in moving traffic. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
The above picture would probably get me fumed only if I couldn't see what was going on. I HATE sitting in traffic. Hell, if no where to go and I could see, I'd sit and enjoy the show And if I was in the front row of those cars, I would be very tempted to mash the accelerator and see if I could make it thru. Those are the animals I was referring to in my original post. (Message edited by fresnobuell on May 02, 2010) | ||
| Guell |
And if I was in the front row of those cars, I would be very tempted to mash the accelerator and see if I could make it thru. dont blame ya at all on that, id want to also. That crap doesnt help our sport at all. | ||
| Firebolt32 |
Couple minutes cool. But if went on too long I'd start getting pissed. Cause you know damn well if it was any of them sitting in one of those cars they'd be bitching too! | ||
| Not_purple_s2 |
Cool, so I guess there are some sportbike clubs out there that aren't black-only. That just seems to be the case down here. I had thought of joining a group because I thought there might be perks; group rides, private track days for members and such. However, the only bike clubs I can find in my area are either harley groups or "black" sportbike groups. While the groups never say they're one race only, you don't see any diversity in their ranks. I would join a mostly black group if they did anything cool like private trackdays. However, all those around me ever seem to do is stunt and ride at ridiculous speeds on public highways and drag race at the 1/8 mile and again on public roads. Granted there are a ton of squids of all colors that do that... they just don't wear group vests while they do it. (Message edited by Not_Purple_S2 on May 02, 2010) | ||
| Froggy |
They couldn't find a large open parking lot from a closed down mini-mall? | ||
| Kc10_fe |
Freeway stunting with t shirts on. If the traffic is moving nobody goes under 70. | ||
| Skinstains |
If I was in the first few rows of cars so that I could see those pricks, there is not a schred of doubt that I would be through that line. If they didn't move for me I would plow right through those scumbags. I actually hope I get the chance one day. I also couldn't imagine actually stopping??? There aint no way I would be in the front row because it just isn't possible, no way I would stop, no way ! People are pussies. Nut...down wit da brown...yeah yeah yeah kid...down wit da brown !!! | ||
| Swampdog225 |
Fresno, I understand your frustration. I am not agreeing with the way that a lot of those jackazz's act. They don't take into account their own or other's personal safety when doing the things that they do. Hence the reason, why I don't ride with the Ruff Ryders. And yes I am BLACK. Try not to play the race card guys. We're all here because we love to ride. Some of us prefer to ride safely. Others don't....They are proof of it. | ||
| Pattio |
Like other posters here I see an immediate resemblance to the bicycle critical mass gatherings. When you get enough small vehicles together, there is some kind of threshold moment when the small vehicles can own the road. There are aspects that can be problematic (troublemakers among the bikes and cars spoiling for a fight, impatient motorists who won't hesitate to use their car as a deadly weapon, rude cyclists who can't tell free behavior from bad behavior) but when it works it is great- moving in a group of bicycles or motorcycles can be a great experience. I almost wish that we had something like these stunt gangs in my area, simply because you have to stop in traffic all the time, for lights, construction, conditions of all kinds- why not hit the brakes from time to time for a motorcycle stuntshow? I guess I'm lucky that I like motorcycles, I wouldn't feel so tolerant if it was something I was less interested in, like cheerleading or interpretive dance. (I'm now imagining the biker gangs in their leather vests executing a perfect human pyramid on the highway) This also reminds me of the roving dirt-bike groups found in Baltimore. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAMB8bsZCzQ | ||
| Drkside79 |
I'm pretty sure if they had blocked a highway like that in Chicago or NYC someone would have run them over. | ||
| Etennuly |
Lane splitting in Florida!  That is idea is NUTS, I don't care who you are! If it is not the 'blue hairs' who don't/can't see anything and cannot keep their seven feet wide Buick in a 16 feet wide lane(why Buicks' seem so wide), or the unlicensed population who never took a test because they cannot read or they were just too drunk or stoned to drive to the licensing station, to the fine educated working folks who were taught somewhere along in their driver training that "when you drive - you own the highway - because you are better than 'those people'. To share it is a sign of weakness!" To the always pushing harder business folks who drive their drivers to take sleep deterring medications rather than a nap, and the families just leaving the camper dealership with the forty foot fifth wheel camper - their first time driving anything bigger than a Lexus sedan, or the crack-heads on their way to or from their last fix, or burglary to come up with the money for the same. It would be hard to find a more distracted, diverse, ME-ME-ME group of drivers anywhere. I drove race cars for years, raced dirt bikes, rode off from cliffs, rode up cliffs, raced three wheelers, and I knew how fast every vehicle I had owned would go, and was never scared in a vehicle until I rode into and out of Tampa with a native of the area that included a stint down a sidewalk on a street corner to pass a truck, lane chopping, crowding into spots that were not big enough, and not a turn signal used and the only hand signs were the one finger type. At least on the race track everyone had the same goal, on the streets anywhere else a smart person would share their intent, not just grab it. I lived there for seventeen years, geared up my driving techniques so that I might survive(even in a cage), and can say that if you lane split in Florida, chances are the splitters will be going slower than the flow of traffic, even up to the light they are stopping for. Being in the body shop business, I coveted a special place for the idiots of the highway. After all repeat business is good business!  | ||
| Blake |
Inconsiderate people suck. Racists suck. Be considerate of others and ignorant of race. Any statement that is critical, let alone insulting and invokes race only serves to spread the hate. | ||
| Reindog |
Lane splitting is one of the cultural reasons to live in California. I just logged 510 miles yesterday on our SCAB (SoCal Area Buellers) ride and encountered traffic jams in both directions through Los Angeles. Lane splitting saved an hour of time. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Lane splitting is one of the cultural reasons to live in California. Actually I am STUNNED lane splitting is not illegal in California. It's about the only thing we can do here that some of the other 49 states can NOT do. It's precarious to say the least and these A-holes that make a mockery of decency and safety while doing said lane splitting are f-ing it up for everyone. My prediction is within 5 years lane splitting will be illegal in California (except cops of course.) And hey I am NOT against lane splitting in general. God knows I have done it on the occasion. There absolutely is a proper time and method to lane split. I only lane split when traffic is heavy enough to justify it, otherwise I wait in line like other motorists. When I do get to the front, I make sure to leave on time. It's freaking rude (and dangerous as well) to cut in front of a gaggle of cars, then not be anticipating the green light. They already want to run up your butt, so why give them an opportunity? It also makes you look like a douche. | ||
| Mikej |
I think it is technically called lane sharing, and fortunately most vehicles drivers haven't figured out that lane sharing also applies to cars and trucks and not just motorcycles. Things might have changed over the years though since I lived (and survived) in California. This thread bothers me in that some motorcyclists are advocating plowing through motorcycles with a car or truck. I've been on a couple of rides where we on Buells blocked traffic to keep a group together through a red light. Thankfully none of the vehicles drivers waiting for us to pass were motivated enough to plow through us. Yeah, blocking freeway traffic to do stunts is bad and stupid, but so is stunting on the freeway intermingling with traffic. I think I'll head back to the bicycling and golf and job search sites. I have a bigger concern over future parts supplies for my bikes and trying to get one of them sold for a fair price in this market than I have for fools on stunt bikes. One of several reasons I stopped going to "bike nights", I don't need the hassle or residual problems. Life goes on - until it don't. ps, I think there's a snowplow for sale on the local craigslist, plenty of room for little motorcycle stickers for each one you plow down. (There isn't an appropriate emoticon to go with this) Have a nice day, stay between the ditches, and keep off the bumpers. | ||
| Rah7777777 |
In regards to the pic with all the idiots shutting the highway down.... I don't care if there black, white, brown, green or purple! Run all those pieces of shit over!! No excuse for that! Plain ignorance and pure lack of courtesy to all those behind them. Throw all those riders in the bottom of a lake, take the bikes and get the chrome plating removed, take the extensions off the swingarms and give the bikes to someone who will not make a bad name for the motorcycle crowd!!! | ||
| Froggy |
There is a difference between keeping a group together, and shutting down a highway. Hell I see it all the time with funeral possessions momentarily blocking intersections to keep the caravan together. | ||
| Eweaver |
For the record, lane splitting is about not being rear-ended: the time savings is just a bonus. | ||
| Delta_one |
that bycicle coment made me think of this picture  the Ruff Ryders are not all black and not all of them ride like fools. I was invited to join and I am a big white and Hispanic mutt  I have several friends who are ruff ryders and my pastor is a former Ruff Ryder. but they do tend to attract that type of crowd and their marketing promotes that behavior. I guess my point here is not to judge a book by its cover, not all of them are "animals" many are very successful and have families etc etc. Etennuly is dead on, Florida is a scary place to ride! I was stationed in Panama City and decided to give up riding while I was there. but he forgot the "street racers" some have nice cars others are just riced out civics. bobbing and weaving through traffic before they spin it out of control. the roads suck and if they aren't covered in sand they are wet with oil some of the oil comes out of the road because of all the seashells and other ocean stuff used in the asphalt mix, not only is it slippery but the shells wear your tires faster too. loose loose. then add the spring breakers into the mix and I just stayed on base. I am with most others here racists suck. inconsiderate riders suck guys/gals that bring negative attention to something we love suck too (Message edited by delta_one on May 03, 2010) | ||
| Jb2 |
"In-lane" passing has become popular in the Appalachians, especially around Deal's Gap. When done with courtesy, allowing the rider in front of you to give you a wave to pass, it's a great way to supersede a double yellow. A privilege of riding for those who use it. However in recent years I've noted several occasions where groups of sport riders will pass in-lane and run the rider they are passing all the way out to the road's edge. There's even been instances of them taking out other riders. I witnessed one such confrontation in the parking lot of Deal's Gap when a cruiser rider hunted down a pack in the parking lot and gave them a verbal schooling after nearly running him off the road. Karma is a circular thing... | ||
| Boogiman1981 |
i really would love to be allowed to split/filter everywhere when taveling overseas i love to get a motorbike jsut because i can split/filter. with the right education push it could be made to happen with minimal risk to all involved. the biggest issue i see is that our bikes here for the most part are bigger/wider than most that can be found overseas(motorbikes not motorcycles) | ||
| Cityxslicker |
ah the shiate I dont have to deal with because I spend most of my time off pavement. Enjoy the traffic boyz. | ||
| Slaughter |
Technically - in CA - it is legally called LANE SHARING - and NOT LANE SPLITTING. You cannot move out of your lane without a lane-change signal. Crossing the line without a signal is an illegal lane change. You CAN share the lane with a car but can't weave back and forth across the lines. Gives the ticketing officer some discretion when/if pulling a rider over. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
I've been on a couple of rides where we on Buells blocked traffic to keep a group together through a red light. And what makes motorcyclists so special or privileged they feel they can hold up traffic to keep a ride together? That's the bullshit I am talking about and the stuff that will eventually kill the sport. So what if your "group" gets broken up? Chances are the lead group will hit a light and everyone will be back together again. If not, doesn't everyone know the destination anyway? | ||
| Reg_kittrelle |
I ride corrected, Steve. And of course every riders uses those signals sharing. | ||
| Niceguyeddy |
+1 on Fresnos last post. About a yr ago I came rolling around a down hill corner to find an mc group blocking off the road so that they could keep their apparently incompetant group together. Not only did it create a dangerous/deadly situation for me but, those following me as well. An LEO and a funeral procession is one thing...a bunch of lacksidaisical Sunday fools is another thing. | ||
| Slaughter |
And of course every riders uses those signals sharing Riiiiiight... |
