| Author | Message | ||
     Xb12xmike |
I dont care about copyrights and I cannot afford to get a patent besides...it has probably already been thought of or is in a movie. It uses mostly existing technology,...except for the programs(s) that would run it and the video cameras needed to make it worth it. (please forgive the rough explanation) Here it is: Realtime-DVR Security system that visually records from multiple locations,. the client at a pre-determined radius (10-50ft depending on camera's available) automatically at set time and length. (example: 2pm-4pm / 8am to 10pm, daily etc.) This recording is recorded via a DVR type system. Client can then return home or office, and has a permanent visual recording of the days events. This can be great for many types of security, law enforcement AND knowing the whereabouts of your loved ones. -DVR type remote recording of said video system (similar to remote dvr recording via cell phone or other similar device) -GPS video tracking using satellite video camera's and multiple pre-existing stationary public video camera's. (Multi user enabled) Meaning the stationary video feeds can be sent to multiple clients' dvr security systems as they could also have the same security system recording and following them. So... for instance, if I am a female about to go out on a blind date in the city or I am at a mall (where I know there are public cameras). I can set my satellite security dvr to begin recording at 8pm and end 11pm via PC or cell device before I leave the home. The system would track you via GPS system tied to your phone or other device. No one would know you were being recorded. It could also follow your or family members vehicle. Just think if you could PROVE you were not the cause of an accident? It would work the same way your DVR works but you would be recording yourself. You go online, log onto your account and view your videos. Save, edit or delete. People and companies who need more security could use this as well. Armored truck drivers, Police officers etc. Their every move would be recorded... even civilians (witnesses) could also submit their recordings to help solve crime if they were also recording in that area. You would have a security code. No one would be able to watch your recorded videos unless you were suspected of crimes and then they would need a warrant. Similar to if you were suspected now... there would have to be a warrant to search your home. What do you think??? It would need MANY more cameras located in major public places, inside and outside all tied to a network. Oh... just think... if you could have the video recordings of someone who witnessed a crime, or was a victim of crime. Maybe even multiple recordings from witnesses and non-witnesses (people who didn't know a crime was commited) I am NOT thinking of the wrong ways this can be used,... I am mostly only thinking of Victim's of crime and justice for them, and down to a parent who wants to make sure their kid is going to school, not doing drugs, driving safely etc. SOUND CRAZY OR WHAT?!?!?! | ||
| Iamike |
Are you talking about something like a Spot unit that tells the cameras by satellite that you are in their range? I'm sure that right now that would be kind of spendy. I was just reading about a portable unit that can be used for construction sites that uses cellular technology (the cameras are fixed until moved) that will trigger on movement. The security company that monitors it will then call police. It has been real successful in catching copper thieves and other construction related thievery. But i'm guessing that you are looking for something else. I did see on CSI NY the other day where they were tracking a couple of their agents by mulitple cameras. My guess is that it isn't nearly as easy as the show implied. | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
So tell me, how do you prevent people from watching you? Have you read George Orwell's book "1984"? If not I suggest you do. Take into consideration it was written over 60 years ago & you realise that people have been thinking about this subject for a very long time. Personally, I have no desire for such a system, I'm already satellite tracked by the company when I'm at work, & I'm obliged by law to record my driving hours & speeds on a tachograph, either on thermal-paper discs or smartcard, which I have to carry with me for 28 days. Also I can be traced by my cellphone, bank & credit cards, internet usage, etc etc. My vehicle registration is recorded every time I fill up, & I'm filmed every time I enter or leave a public building. No not for me, Big Brother has enough of a handle on my life already. | ||
| Paw |
Sounds impossible think about how many people are in time square on a Saturday at 12 noon. You would need thousands of cameras set at many angles. A few cameras at each block could not record every person there if those people wanted recorded. If what you are saying they would set their DVR camera to follow them, right? What if 50 people in time square wanted recorded at the same time? | ||
| Sifo |
Chicago is almost all set up for this. I understand they have one of the most extensive networks of surveillance cameras on the planet. Sounds impossible think about how many people are in time square on a Saturday at 12 noon. You would need thousands of cameras set at many angles. A few cameras at each block could not record every person there if those people wanted recorded. If what you are saying they would set their DVR camera to follow them, right? What if 50 people in time square wanted recorded at the same time? If I understand correctly the idea would be that as you travel through Times Square for example, you don't get a camera dedicated to you personally, but you would get the feed from the camera(s) that cover where you are based on GPS positioning. If something were to happen to you there would be a trail of camera footage saved unique to the travels of your GPS unit that could be reviewed. Sounds technologically feasible, but I have no idea what pieces are in place in current surveillance cameras. I had a car hit in my work parking lot some years back and I asked if it would be possible to review the tape to see who hit my car. Found out that they didn't tape anything, it was just a live feed to the monitor at the front desk.  | ||
| Ferris_von_bueller |
I'm so glad I've been staying away from here | ||
| Xb12xmike |
Sifo, you got it!! Thats the idea!! And the video/info/data recorded for you and of you,... would be recorded onto a network tied to your account. You would need a name/number/password to view/hear your data. Just like the way you have to have password to access cell phone voicemail. Or something similar to it. | ||
| Xb12xmike |
I like it. I'd want it. The technology is coming... maybe eventually we could even utilize personal cellphone cameras, by having the option by just flipping a switch/button on our cellphone, Iphone, laptop cams or Ipads giving permission to use our cameras for the recording. So for example, say 10 in 100 people at an event can record for themselves OR let their camera be used for public recording of an event. (Getting complicated but not too much) | ||
| Cityxslicker |
You would be amazed at what we have done with the right warrant | ||
| Slipknot |
I think the OP is paranoid to the point of being afraid of his own shadow. Just like the rest of TV land. Never fear, the gooberment will step in and save you, tax you and tell you every move you are allowed to make to fell safe. | ||
| Thumper74 |
I think it's easily possible considering that cell phones can be tracked. I don't think it's a good thing and it's most definately not available without proper clearances. Most states have cameras that recognize stolen licensed plates at highway speeds. Some recognize faces too. Read '1984' and you won't think it's a hot idea | ||
| Cityxslicker |
its too much data, without direction focus and intent, you just couldnt monitor it all. But if you actively following a subject, yeah public cameras are open source, open domain, you have no implication or perception of privacy. Cell phone GPS, and Onstar GPS have already been supenoe'd in landmark cases to provide realtime cookie crumb surveillence. | ||
| Just_ziptab |
Speaking of security............ Here's a solution to all of the controversy over the full-body scanners now being introduced at major airports. What is needed is a reinforced booth that you can step into that will not X-ray you, but will detonate any explosive device that you may have on you. It would be a win-win for everyone - there would be none of this crap about racial profiling and this method would eliminate a long and expensive trial. Justice would be quick and swift. This is so simple that it's brilliant. I can see it now: you're in the airport terminal and you hear a muffled explosion. Shortly thereafter an announcement comes over the PA system, "Attention standby passengers, we now have a seat available on flight number.........." | ||
| Xb12xmike |
Yea so its coming anyways. cityslicker, it would not be too much info really. Using Sifo's example: The cameras in Times square for instance would be non-moving in key positions. Just like the cameras you see NOW set up (all over highways set up at key Congestion areas) YOUR system would tap into that camera's view only when you passed thru that area. And that camera, would also be broadcasting to many other systems as well. (I guess the same way digital tv is broadcast) once you pass that cameras view, it would automatically seek other cameras that you would pass by, then in another example, maybe you went down into the subway,.. so now there is no camera for 100ft, there would be no video recorded until you traveled into/thru a camera zone again. (while underground/in buildings) BUT... if you walked around a corner outside into an area where no camera was found... the satellite camera's would kick in and start recording. This recording is then accessible only to you, just like your cell phone voicemail. That you can keep F O R E V E R! These features will soon be a new APP on you Iphone. Just look how many cell phone are out there now. For you 1984 fans,... Do you have cellphone and does it have a GPS feature? Can you enable/disable this GPS feature? This GPS/camera/dvr system would work the same way. I believe MANY people would want this. | ||
| Xb12xmike |
Just_ziptab I like it!! Detonation_Xray! | ||
| Swordsman |
And yet certain places are outlawing photographs of people that didn't consent to be photographed...... The whole thing sounds crazy to me.  Authorities already pull security camera footage for cases. They just need to be told when and where. What's the point again...? | ||
| Glitch |
The UK is getting scary. http://tinyurl.com/2acdvtv | ||
| Xb12xmike |
As far as outlawing photographs of people that didn't consent to be photographed,... We only need to modify existing "face recognition software" to only show the recognized face. (yours, which would be registered) Of course that special software could also be unlocked to show all faces in crime situations etc. | ||
| Thumper74 |
Mike, I do, but the GPS is turned off unless I need it. It takes a second. The authorities can still tell your location by cell towers though. | ||
| Xb12xmike |
"the GPS is turned off unless I need it". This system would work the same way. "The authorities can still tell your location by cell towers though". And if you power off your cell? These cell tower unit arrays would most likely have to be upgraded. Thing is... this is not as farfetched an idea as some might think. It's not far off, most of the technology is already here and we are using most of it now. It would just need to be put together somehow thats all. | ||
| Blake |
Most alarming is something I learned watching Stossel on the Fox Business Channel yesterday evening. Google "Civil Asset Forfeiture." Unbelievable! How the heck did such law ever be allowed to happen? Where the heck was the ACLU? Too busy promoting a redefinition of marriage and trying to mandate atheism as a national religion? | ||
| Blake |
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/ 6/27/191414.shtml | ||
| Glitch |
So much for innocent until proven guilty. The property is under arrest?!?!?!?! | ||
| Froggy |
Simple solution, pay for everything with a credit card and don't carry more than $50 cash. | ||
| Blake |
How would that prevent seizure of your house or vehicle or any property? | ||
| Blake |
The topical security idea is interesting. The really infuriating aspect of the civil asset forfeiture laws is that they allow the local governmental entities (police dept, district attorneys offices) to keep the property for their own use. Predictably, many have abused it. So in effect we've given the law enforcement folks incentive to take our property for no valid reason. How the heck did that ever become law??? | ||
| Blake |
Sorry for the topic highjack Mike. ![: ]](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/proud.gif) | ||
| Pwnzor |
Oh, it's law all right. I can guarantee it has been since at least May of 2006. I'm a victim of it myself. | ||
| Xb12xmike |
I have a Kodak Zi8, I can record footage, and send it to youtube in a few steps. (can be public or private) In this new security system, with roaming satellite camera recording and stationary camera recording, you could also have the option to upgrade to a personal cell/camera or even glasses like the ones NO_RICE used in those FL. fireroad videos. It would stream live to your account, (public or private) It would also be recorded to the networks verizon/Sprint/Youtube etc. hardware for your approval/editing or deleting. Or you could set it up live like Skype!! Now...I guess that would have to have some type of "FACE REMOVAL" software. Or... only the distance cameras and satellite camera would be live, any closeup recording would have to be recorded then processed for "others" face removal. But I guess that face removal thing would only be required if that was the law. (Message edited by xb12xmike on April 23, 2010) | ||
| Blake |
Was thinking of you and hoping you'd share your experience Matt. |
