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Cityxslicker
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 01:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I hear Obama is calling industries to the table and slapping subpenos to get them to show their work for their budgetary cuts and projections with the New Health Care deal.....

Funny the CBO hasnt aired their stats either....
I guess transparency only counts when its the other guys.
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 05:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I hear Obama is calling industries to the table and slapping subpenos to get them to show their work for their budgetary cuts and projections with the New Health Care deal.....
Yeah they're pissed that AT&T, Caterpillar, and other companies that have told the public just how much Obamacare is projected to cost them.
Caterpillar estimated $150million/year.
Imagine that, getting a subpoena for doing what the law compels a publicly traded corporation to do.
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Gregtonn
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 09:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"I agree 100%!!! That's why I refuse to watch Fox News!"

Don sticks fingers in ears wile loudly chanting, "Nya-nya-nya I can't hear you."

The truth can be hazardous to liberalism.

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Court
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 10:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

Yeah they're pissed that AT&T, Caterpillar, and other companies that have told the public just how much Obamacare is projected to cost them.
Caterpillar estimated $150million/year.




Under GAAP there are huge penalties for not reporting PRECISELY what these folks reported.

I'd suggest their numbers are perhaps more accurate than those of the CBO.

The CBO missed things like Medicare by a factor of 1,000X

Be mindful that these are the folks who missed the price of the "Cash for Clunkers" something like a 90 day program by several orders of magnitude.

If you believe this health care (really a funny name considering how damn little of the 2704 pages have anything to do with health care - 700+ are student loans) will cost less than $1,000,000,000,000 you are from Mars.

The next 5 generations will be paying out the ass for this and struggling under the effects if it isn't declared unconstitutional or repealed following the November election.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The bait and switch technique is nothing new. This stuff is all laid out right in the front of the Book. Genesis 29:16-26.

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Now Laban had two daughters; the name of the older was Leah, and the name of the younger was Rachel. Leah had weak eyes, but Rachel was lovely in form, and beautiful. Jacob was in love with Rachel and said, "I'll work for you seven years in return for your younger daughter Rachel."

Laban said, "It's better that I give her to you than to some other man. Stay here with me." So Jacob served seven years to get Rachel, but they seemed like only a few days to him because of his love for her.

Then Jacob said to Laban, "Give me my wife. My time is completed, and I want to lie with her."

So Laban brought together all the people of the place and gave a feast. But when evening came, he took his daughter Leah and gave her to Jacob, and Jacob lay with her. And Laban gave his servant girl Zilpah to his daughter as her maidservant.

When morning came, there was Leah! So Jacob said to Laban, "What is this you have done to me? I served you for Rachel, didn't I? Why have you deceived me?"

Laban replied, "It is not our custom here to give the younger daughter in marriage before the older one. Finish this daughter's bridal week; then we will give you the younger one also, in return for another seven years of work."
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The government has screwed people over for thousands of years... the question is now, what are we going to do about it?
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Strokizator
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Re: The Governator's failure, to be fair, very early on after not being to come to terms with the legislature he tried to bring about change by putting 4 initiatives on the ballot in 2005. Here's the result:

"The unions spent millions of dollars to beat Schwarzenegger's propositions to limit the use of their member dues for political purposes, cap state spending, redraw legislative districts and restrict public-school teacher tenure."

After that defeat he tucked his tail like a whipped puppy. By allowing the unions to control the state, the residents of California deserve all the misery they brought upon themselves.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How many pages is this thing in Spanish...
The White House

Office of the Press Secretary

For Immediate Release March 24, 2010 Decreto Ejecutivo -- la Ley de Protección al Paciente y Cuidado de Salud de Bajo Precio coincide con restricciones sobre el uso de fondos federales para el aborto
Adjunto va el decreto ejecutivo firmado por el Presidente reiterando que la Ley de Protección al Paciente y Cuidado de Salud de Bajo Precio coincide con restricciones que datan de hace mucho tiempo sobre el uso de fondos federales para el aborto.

www.whitehouse.gov Not everything they are up to is making the news... not everything they are up to is making their own website.
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just ran across this...

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/still-surging-fox-news- has-best-quarter-in-network-history/

quote:

While Fox News continues to see record ratings, their cable news competitors are dropping off even more year-to-year. In the A25-54 demographic during prime time, FNC was up 16%, while CNN dropped 42%, MSNBC was down 22% and HLN was down 40%. In total viewers prime time, FNC was up 3% while the rest declined as well (CNN – 39%, MSNBC – 15%, HLN – 24%).




People are seeing the corruption in the media and they are fleeing from it.
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Reindog
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 07:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


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People are seeing the corruption in the media and they are fleeing from it.



That is an understatement. The Media corrupted itself during the 2008 presidential campaign and it shows no sign of rehabilitation. On the contrary, it is getting more partisan as witnessed by the jubilation by the media when the so-called Health Care bill passed last week. FNC grows stronger every quarter because their news division truly is "fair and balanced" relative to its competition. Liberals tend to become apoplectic about FNC but I suspect most haven't really watched FNC news. There is a clear delineation between the news organization and the commentaries. Even shows like O'Reilly provide airtime to some extremely Left people. You don't get this on CNN/MSNBC/CNBC commentary shows.

Notice how the Left attempts to denigrate the entire Tea Party movement by the action of a few individuals. They are ALL "racist" and "homophobic" yet there is not a single videotape of the N-word being uttered. Does the Leftist media point this out. No. Only FNC does. BTW, ALL groups, both Left and Right, contain fringe elements.

Notice how the Left attempts to inhibit or prohibit free speech. The Tea Party does not do this. Witness the Leftist fascist actions taken against Ann Coulter and Karl Rove this week. Remember Cindy Sheehan? Remember Code Pink? Is this reported by the Leftist media? No, or it is marginalized.

Laura Ingraham was on the Today show several days ago and refused to be pushed around by Matt Lauer. The Leftist agenda is so blatantly obvious and they think they can cow Conservatives but they are about to find out they are sadly mistaken.

Witness the gradual self destruction of CNN as reported by the New York Slimes.

CNN losing ground

Smart Badwebbers are increasingly becoming aware that they have been duped by a lying Administration whose agenda is to nationalize as much of the economy as fast as possible at the expense of freedom and the US taxpayer.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 07:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sounds to me like Reindog listens to The Great One!

"Get off the phone ya big dope!"
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Pwnzor
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 07:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

from the article on CNN that Reindog cited:

"CNN executives have steadfastly said that they will not change their approach to prime-time programs, which are led by hosts not aligned with any partisan point of view."

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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 08:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Reindog
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 08:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mark Levin is DA MAN!! I have rejoined the workforce so I get to listen to him broadcasting from his bunker on my drive home. More Americans are going to be discovering his unabashed Conservatism and love of Capitalism.

Beck is really good for inciting the hatefulness known as the Left.

Listening to Joy Behar or Rachel Maddow makes my underwear turn Code Brown.
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 08:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

from the article on CNN that Reindog cited:

"CNN executives have steadfastly said that they will not change their approach to prime-time programs, which are led by hosts not aligned with any partisan point of view."


Wasn't Glenn Beck one of those non-partisan folks? Now he's accused of being everything from a Republican shill to a co-founder of the Tea Party.

It could be that he has always been a conservative that believes in the constitution and limited government. Now he's just complaining about BO instead of GWB.

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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=M2I0ZjNkY zBjMDBlM2IxMmM0NWYzNTU4MmNiYzgzZTc=

I Don't usually swipe an entire article. I will in this case because, though certainly biased, VDH ( a historian of note & some talent for conveying the past to a popular audience ) is very straight forward here.


Why All the Wounded Fawns? [Victor Davis Hanson]



Why are charges of racism and political extremism suddenly in the air?

Party politics is always the norm, but what is unusual this time around is the juxtaposition between the once-soaring Obama unity rhetoric of the past and the hardball Chicago politics of the present, amid a landscape of feigned outrage that somehow politics are not "fair." A bit of history is in order.

Like it or not, throughout much of the Bush administration, the public was conditioned to believe the following:

• Filibusters were a key traditional Senate protection designed to thwart the tyranny of the majority as embodied by the Bush-Cheney steamroller (Republicans, to be fair, often damned them as obstructionist).

• Recess appointments were the desperate acts of an executive without confidence in either popular or legislative support. Popular protests were grass-roots democracy at its finest.

• Occasional fringe groups that frequented anti-war, anti-Bush rallies, and called their president horrific epithets or threatened violence, were either irrelevant or forced into such understandable extremism by their own government's excesses.

• The once-abhorrent expression of hatred in popular culture for the president (cf. e.g., Knopf's Nicholson Baker novel Checkpoint, about killing Bush, or the Toronto Film Festival award winning a docudrama about assassinating George Bush, or Jonathan Chait's New Republic essay "The Case for Bush Hatred," or Michael Moore's abhorrent talk after 9/11 about blue/red state deaths and his empathy for terrorists in Iraq ("Minutemen" . . . "and they will win") were not merely not abhorrent, but often creative expressions that captured the mood of popular dislike, and certainly no grounds for ostracism (cf. Moore's attendance at film openings and conventions with top Democratic politicians).

In other words, apparently few on the Left realized that in their dislike for Bush, and in their tolerance for those who hated Bush, they more or less changed attitudes toward acceptable and unacceptable public expressions of dissent. So now the public sees their sudden call for polite discourse as abject hypocrisy. Even the toxic and increasingly desperate charge of racism has little currency now, and soon will boomerang back on the accusers.

What does all this mean? A largely center-right country that polls consistently conservative apparently is beginning to think it was had in the election of 2008. A weak McCain campaign, weariness after eight years of Bush, fascination with a charismatic African-American landmark candidate, fright after the September 2008 meltdown, and Obama's centrist "purple" rhetoric all provided the margin of victory, but apparently not the margin for an intended remake of America in which the daily conditions under which we live and see the world (buying a Chevy, going to the mailbox on Saturday, attending the doctor, viewing Israel, making claims on Medicare, paying taxes, trying terrorists, etc.) would be radically altered in just a year.

For the once-giddy Left, which misinterpreted the causes of the Obama landmark victory, the current pushback is seen as somehow terribly unfair, and thus arise both their own furor and their amnesia about their own past attitudes during the Bush years. I think ultimately many "progressives," adherents to relativism, feel that the past furor over Bush in all its creepy manifestations was justified because of who Bush was; but that a similar methodology (or, in fact, far softer manifestations) of dissent toward Obama is unacceptable because of who Obama is (i.e. one can act rudely toward clearly bad people, but not rudely toward unquestionably "good" people). It is that simple.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 09:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://article.nationalreview.com/429726/leftism-t he-religion/dennis-prager

I cannot speak to the comments on Jewish Leftism. ( though one aspect I think the author misses is that Jewish girls hear from their mothers that, "the first thing Hitler did was ban abortion" long before adolescence. If you are a "conservative", ( I'm not ) you might consider that indoctrination while trying to spread your beliefs. )

His comments re: Christians seem spot on.

This may cast a new light for you on some people's vehemence defending their leftist positions without logic, facts, or honesty.

The emotional response of anger and the sudden resort to insults and slander ( like racist/nazi/hater, etc. ) may be more understandable when you consider that what to you is simple truth, or a logical argument, is to leftists, an attack on God herself. Or certainly on a cherished faith that is far superior to yours.

The basis of the "faith" of Leftism is now and has always been the use of Emotion to manipulate people so that evil people may use them. Primarily the emotions of envy, hate, and covetousness. The Dark Side has much power.

It's that simple.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mark Levin is DA MAN

Yes, well I wish Da Man didn't have quite so many commercials on his show... Other than that I definitely agree, he takes no crap.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 01:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I dont dislike Obama because of his race or his skin color; I HATE him because of his dunderheaded leanings, policies, programs, intentions, interpretations, and his supporting croanies too.
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Reindog
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 03:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Don't matter, City. You are still a racist.....and a homophobe......and just plain unfair.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 03:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

... a racist homophobe who hates the planet, wears fur, and eats puppies.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

and you're a teabagger too.

That just about cover it?
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Pwnzor
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 04:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

according to Facebook I am a 72 year old 100% naughty xenophobe.

I've been known to eat the occasional puppy.
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Cyclonedon
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 04:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Fox News is a credible news service! Right?






Gots ya!!! April fools day!!! lol
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Pwnzor
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 04:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Fox News is a credible news service! Right?

I would say they are about 70% credible.

Whereas, CNN = 20%, MSNBC = 18%, BBC = 45%
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 04:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh leave him alone, he's just following the rules for radicals handbook, ridicule and marginalize.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 04:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just wanted to illuminate the individual to the fact that conservatives don't just blindly follow what's said on TV.

I can't f'ing stand Greta or Hannity. O'reilly is good most of the time, but his words are opinions, not really hard news.

On the other side of the coin, the filth that generally spews from CNN and MSNBC is intermingled with the occasional piece of actual information presented in an unbiased manner.

BBC, well what can I say about them. It depends what time of day you're watching. They swing all the way in both directions but it's definitely interesting to see an international perspective regardless of slant.
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Reindog
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 04:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Better to be a teabaggee than a teabagger? I'm not sure which party has the doodads when the participants are of the opposite persuasion.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 04:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My favorite guy right now is Andrew Wilkow.

His show is VERY good with fact based political commentary.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 04:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I can't watch Hannity either. There's no need to really. His positions are predictable.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 06:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah, I personally think Hannity is just too much, too fast. He hammers on a subject over and over. I understand why he does it, but I just think his efforts are misplaced. A lot of people see him as radical right, and I can actually understand their point of view.

Fringe liberals tend to hear 3 words out of every 20. So when they listen to Hannity for 3.8 seconds, they get his loud repetetive style and don't hear the actual content of his words. They latch onto a sound bite and label every conservative based on that.






.....I said "fringe"
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