| Author | Message | ||
     Ferrisbuellersdayoff |
I'm sure we've all got prefferences but I have 3 choices and an important decision. I can only get one at the moment(budget), this is kinda tough for me. Different gun for each purpose, I have a variety of taste so here goes... Remington 700 Heavy Barrel .308 http://img19.imageshack.us/i/700p005.jpg/ A3 Flattop AR-15 upper (.223) SS Heavy Barrel http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c385/Dennis_in_V A/VARMINTS%20STUFF/P7220816.jpg Saiga 12ga. http://izhevsk.club.guns.ru/images/saiga12p.jpg | ||
| Teeps |
Depends on the targets you're going to be shoot'n. I'd say the Remington will bring home more game than the other two. But if the "it" goes down, can't beat either of those auto shuckers for put'n rounds down field. | ||
| Pwnzor |
 | ||
| Nm5150 |
As fond of my AR as I am,If I could only have one long arm it would be a shotgum.I can hit a beer can a little over 50% of the time at 100 meters with modern slugs and can use different loads for birds or self defence.On an M3 I would use an EOTECH with flip up sights for a back up along with a high quality light.Practice practice practice!JMHO | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
I just looked on youtube & found this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUe4NWiOq5A&NR=1 If you want to throw a lot of lead about this thing looks like the kiddy. | ||
| Fordrox |
I want a TAC-15 just to have it. if it wasn't so damned expensive I might just go for it. http://tac15.com/ | ||
| Reepicheep |
I'd get a .22 revolver, a .22 semi auto carbine, and about 10,000 rounds of ammo. And have change left in your pocket. I'm serious. A year from now, you could (but won't want to) sell those .22's... and go choose your next gun. A .22 revolver is one of my favorite guns... dead nuts accurate, single or double action, all day shooting fun without getting poor or annoyed, and easy to clean. | ||
| Puddlepirate |
What are the purposes for each gun? Buy whichever one you will use most. | ||
| Xl1200r |
Wow... three totally different choices, there... Almost seems like there's no use in mind, just a "cool factor" for all of them. Personally, I like the Saiga, but then again I really like shotguns. Personally, I'd skip a .22 anything unless you want to do competitive target shooting. I've never been more bored shooting a gun than any of the .22 rifles or handguns I've shot - yes, they'll be cheaper to buy and operate, but personally, I wouldn't want to. | ||
| Ferrisbuellersdayoff |
I have a plethora .22's! Bolt actions, T-Bolts, semi autos, revolvers, semi auto pistols, and I even have the Ruger 10/22 double gun(makeshift Gatlin gun kit). Ammo is spent hastily and happily already. I've held the Tac-15, wonderful piece. Expensive for a crossbow, but very nice none the less. | ||
| Slowride |
Ferris, I don't know what your mission is, but the all around most verstile platform is the AR. With that being said, I would only own one in a .308 NATO. I just picked up a DPMS LR-308 AP4 at just over 1k. I can hunt nearly anything in the Americas with it as well as ensure a 1 shot 1 kill ratio with it if needed. With frangable(sp?) rounds I can use it cqb in the house for home defense. Just my 2cents worth. | ||
| Ferrisbuellersdayoff |
My two main triggers right now are Russian... Home defense would be helped with the Saiga if purchased, have an AK for that purpose now, and most of my long range stuff is on my Mosin Nagant. My current AR-15(.223) is nice, but its tempermental and bitchy. About the only thing that lets me keep it is the fact I can alter it dramatically, hence the desire for a new upper. But I dont have over $1k, or I'd get 2 of my choices! | ||
| Ourdee |
I've been thinking compound bow lately. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Those Mosin's are hard to pass up at $79 , aren't they! The 6.5x55 mausers were even better at $89, but those are *long* gone. | ||
| Swampy |
Why do you want a AR15 with a SS heavy barrel? The 308 is a great choice for long range work, try a Savage Tactical, they shoot amazingly great right out of the box for the cost. But first I would be getting an AR15 in an M4 variation as the prices are going to continue to rise as they have been for the last 25 years. If you follow gold prices they sort of follw that, I don't know, it's something about durable goods and the like. Then I would invest in a 12 gauge and the 308 all at once, the 12 being the priority as it works well indoors and when you are in a hurry. | ||
| Swampy |
I mean the AR will do a nice job as a varment gun but the 308 is just some much more satisfying when it makes contact and it is not so easily affected by wind. | ||
| Ferrisbuellersdayoff |
I want the heavy barrel to primarily keep its self down. My current upper is a 20" barrel with the M-16 tapered, ribbed foregrip. The whole upper is a mismatched frankenstein. If i get the SS heavy, theres a guy who'll wanna switch his 16" for my 20". So 2 guns out of one lower. Side note, after further research the Rem 700 is being put to the back burner. Held a few at the local retailers, and on all of them the bolt moved very begrudgingly! Not just one, but all 8, 3 diff calibers, heavy barrel, tapered... all of them. Now not to say it represents every Rem 700 produced I just wanna mull the long gun idea over. My Mosin does just fine. I'll post pics of it later, I got it when my grandfather passed away. Its a hot set up, and its far from the old surplus stock thats rolling around. | ||
| Spatten1 |
I like the Rem 700. I have killed many meals with mine, including my first deer. I have the cheap Dick's Sporting Goods model from the early 90's, no bottom plate, parkerized, plastic stock. It works great and takes a beating. You don't have to feel bad about beating it up either. The trigger sucks, some day I'll pay someone to improve it. | ||
| M2me |
Winchester Model 62. I've got one that was manufactured in 1935. It was my dad's gun when he was kid. I used it when I took the firearm's safety course at the American Legion when I was a kid. After my dad passed away I inherited this gun. It's really sweet! It's super accurate and just feels great in your hands. Note: This picture is not my actual gun but it's pretty close. This is a pre-War Model 62 and the one I've got is in very similar condition. I don't have a good picture of my actual gun. I need to take a good picture of it and with me shooting it!  My brother has my dad's pre-War Winchester 1894 .30-.30. That's a really nice gun too. It was my grandfather's and was handed down to my dad. I haven't looked up the serial number but I'm guessing it dates from the early '20s. | ||
| Cyclonedon |
get a Browning 30/06. Best gun and best caliper for all types of shooting. | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
I'd like to get hold of a Mossberg 500 J.I.C. I'll have to get one taken to pieces & have you lot send me a bit each, mixed in with some bike parts, lol. | ||
| Gunut75 |
Favorites: 1. Rem. 700 BDL/DM, all weather in 30-06, with a fully etched receiver. With iron sights, I'm good to 150 yards. Possibly one of the last great deals Rem. ever offered. I paid $535 brand new for this gun years ago. 2. Ruger 10/22. allllll tricked out. Good for dime size groups with velociraptor ammo at 100 yards. 3. Rem. 1100 semi-auto 12ga. Nice expensive chokes, and lengthened forcing cone. 4. S&W K22 Masterpiece from the 50s. Best lil shootin sixgun I've ever owned. | ||
| Metalrabbit |
I prefer hand load 45-70 in a couple different rifles and the M-14. I like to see where I'm hitting. | ||
| Drkside79 |
I want this one   | ||
| Milt |
Mine's bigger than yours....  (Message edited by milt on March 12, 2010) | ||
| Aesquire |
For a large bore ( bigger than .223 ) rifle, I'd go with the Savage. A heavy barrel tactical model is available if you want it, Though I'd get a synthetic stock & medium barrel if you plan to carry it any distance. Get a .308 or other common caliber so plinking is reasonable. A .50 Beowulf upper for your AR would be a hoot, ( good for all land critters except the African majors...work fine on them, but some countries have rules ) but I can't afford to shoot it very much. If you want a heavy barrel .223 I'd say sell your AR if it's bitchy. Let someone else deal with it. Get a Bushmaster Varminter or Predator. No fancy rails, no fancy anything, but a good match trigger, stone reliability, and accuracy that has you going to the range & just sticking up a handful of 1" shoot & see pasters. You won't need a bigger target. ( the Houge grip...ok, I guess that's a fancy, nice one too ) http://www.gunblast.com/Bushmaster-Predator.htm You can spend twice as much, and get fancier rails, and even get a piston "AR" that parts will be impossible to find for in 5 years. Bushmaster makes the .223 AR for Remington, and has been darn good for less than I could have built it. Then get a short "tactical upper later with all the rails, lasers, flashlights and cupholders you want. Or swap for the 16" and sell the lower. What makes it "bitchy"??? feeding? cycling? shoots over a 12 inch arc when you snug down the Sling? ( I've seen that with non-floated barrels. ) | ||
| Ourdee |
I like wooden stocks, not shiny furniture, just oiled. | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
.22 LR kicks ass for fun/$ equation. My favorite guns are both .22 Ruger MK1 and tiny .22 revolver.  How small is the tiny revolver? Here it is against a .45ACP and a NATO 7.62mm  | ||
| Buellkowski |
What do you AR types think about a side-charging upper like this? Handy, yes?   | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
Is there a forward assist? | ||
| Buellkowski |
You can see it in the top photo. The match rifle in the bottom pic is without. | ||
| Aesquire |
I like a side charging handle. My one real complaint about the AR platform is the charging handle. Why on Earth design a gun with a hole in the receiver right by your face that hot gases come out of? ( the original had a trigger shaped handle inside the carry handle/rear sight mount ) Having a non reciprocating handle, Ok, I see that as a plus, if it's not too complicated. But the ergonomics of the M16A1 design are crap for charging the weapon if you are prone & don't want to move much. You also have to take the weapon off your shoulder etc. Throw in the forward assist slam button which you only need because of the stupid charger... Now I know the changes from original aren't Stoner's idea, That was some Air Force or Army bozo, But you'd think in the 40+ years this thing has been in inventory...... or maybe I'm just cranky about looking like a raccoon after a box or rounds downrange. ( yeah I know, they make a blow by deflecting aftermarket handle, it's still a dumb thing IMHO......feel free to disagree. ) The caliber issue is not a big deal with me. I don't have to shoot through cars to stop homicidal car bombers, or through doors or cinder block walls to stop a machine gunner. ( I hope I never do ) They make different caliber uppers now, so you can go from a .20 Ruger for chipmunks at 300 yds, or a .450 Bushmaster to roughly duplicate a trapdoor Springfield's 45-70 govt. ballistics in a modern arm. ( yeah, laugh at a 19'th century cartridge, sure it's arcs like a rainbow compared to modern stuff, but is, along with the .50 Beowulf, sure protection against the largest bears. And if it can stop an Alaskan/Siberian Brown, it can stop a truck. ) The biggest secret IMO to a good AR is a free float barrel and a good trigger. The rest can be anything from classic GI to Super Anti Sniper System, they'd shoot the same. | ||
| Buellkowski |
Anyone interested in the side-charging setup above (or any precision AR work), shoot me a PM. My AR has a short, heavy Krieger barrel and I'm in the process of dialing in a new Geisele trigger. With the proper loads, .223 will do just fine at long range (at relatively low cost), though 6.5 mm seems to be the hot caliber these days. | ||
| Kc10_fe |
5.7, 5.7, and 5.7 |
