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     Johnnymceldoo |
President Barack Obama has signed a one-year extension of several provisions in the nation's main counterterrorism law, the Patriot Act. Provisions in the measure would have expired on Sunday without Obama's signature Saturday. The act, which was adopted in the weeks after the Sept. 11, 2001 terror attacks, expands the government's ability to monitor Americans in the name of national security. Three sections of the Patriot Act that stay in force will: _Authorize court-approved roving wiretaps that permit surveillance on multiple phones. _Allow court-approved seizure of records and property in anti-terrorism operations. _Permit surveillance against a so-called lone wolf, a non-U.S. citizen engaged in terrorism who may not be part of a recognized terrorist group. Obama's signature comes after the House voted 315 to 97 Thursday to extend the measure. The Senate also approved the measure, with privacy protections cast aside when Senate Democrats lacked the necessary 60-vote supermajority to pass them. Thrown away were restrictions and greater scrutiny on the government's authority to spy on Americans and seize their records. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2 010/02/27/national/w143911S08.DTL} | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
My outrage remains constant as long as that patriot act exists. I never expected him to kill it off. It's the kind of law that will never be overturned once it's allowed to pass. | ||
| Pwnzor |
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| Cityxslicker |
as someone that used to do the earmuff and data search, it really is only public mouthpiece for what we had been doing for decades. you can amp up your paranoia, the technology is way better since 2001  you can try and live off the grid... we could still find and track you if NEEDED | ||
| Sifo |
Where is the outrage? The Obama administration is actually expanding the ability to track us. They want to be able to track our cell phones without the need of obtaining warrants.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig10/mccullagh5.1.1.h tml I guess this is another one of those cases like deficit spending. It was horrible when the Bush administration was doing it, but it's good when the Obama administration does it on a much larger scale. I think many people have a very flexible sense of right and wrong. | ||
| Mountainstorm |
No it was horrible then and it is horrible now. I'll skip all the catch phrases. We've gutted our constitution and that's all there is to it. Live with it or die from it. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
It is just clarification of what we have been doing since all cell phones have been required to have the E=911 embed chip. Your air waves, once they hit the public networks, have as much protection as the garbage on your street. Its open source, data collection free for all. Didnt/Dont need a warrant, all you need was probably cause, writ of intent, an op plan for budgeting (rubber stamp form) and you were off to the listening data banks. Those of you driving GM cars... we have had access to your On-Star records for almost ten years. (that one still took a warrant as of 2008) I wouldnt worry too much about your civil liberities... have you seen FaceBook or Twitter? Morons are giving up data so fast, they dont even care who is reading it. | ||
| Blake |
At least on Facebook you can limit who is able to see whatever information you choose to post. Still unwise to post information that nefarious types might exploit to our detriment. | ||
| Oldog |
At least on Facebook you can limit who is able to see whatever information you choose to post not entirely true, who admisinsters While I love BWB, face book and Twitter are a. waste of time b. a good way of giving out info about your self that the unscrupulous types, including your local i have an axe to grind officials can use against you. } | ||
| Reepicheep |
I dunno Jim, I found out the *really* interesting stuff about you as a result of that NC modified corn. | ||
| Court |
And it's big business aggregating information from various social networking sites and combining it. I am, really, amazed at some of the photos the gals at school put on their sites. I may be old fashioned but it's becoming S-O-P for employers to check these sites when interviewing. My favorite site is my daughter in laws . . . the one who was the Victoria's Secret model. All of her friends work (she doesn't . . she's an Energy Trader) for a modeling agency so her "friends" list is always entertaining. | ||
| Hex |
you can try and live off the grid... we could still find and track you if NEEDED Uh, ok then, where's Osama? I'm sure he got more than one satellite in his honor, yet no reward? | ||
| Court |
>>>we could still find and track you if NEEDED Likely . . my face and license plate number get photographed and "linked" (i.e. they know if someone new is driving my car) daily as I drive in Manhattan. If my license plate shows up on the Brooklyn Bridge and my EZ-Pass at the Tappan Zee at the same time . . somebody's looking to find out why. Pretty bizarre stuff. Watch for the white blimp . . unmarked police cars are hard to find . . . someone an unmarked blimp seems to stand out. | ||
| B00stzx3 |
Meh....the ACLU lib types will be up in arms about their Chosen One extending this...and the black helicopter 9-11 truther types will be angry but that's nothing new. As long as I have my beer and cigarettes I could care less. | ||
| Drkside79 |
So you all expected him to pocket veto it? | ||
| Sifo |
So you all expected him to pocket veto it? I expect him to flip flop around like a fish laying in the bottom of the boat. That's just from past experience watching him on other issues though. | ||
| Hootowl |
I for one am glad he is ignoring the rabid left and not closing gitmo, not declawing the patriot act, and not arbitrarily pulling out of Iraq. I was hoping during the campaign that he wasn't really that stuipd. | ||
| Sifo |
Oh, I'm glad for those same things, but it does have BO flip flopping like a fish in the bottom of the boat. | ||
| Just_ziptab |
Cityxslicker: "I wouldnt worry too much about your civil liberities... have you seen FaceBook or Twitter? Morons are giving up data so fast, they dont even care who is reading it." Just google your name and see what comes up. Google your phone number. Do a court search and find alimony payments/maden name/age/most legal transactions. Do a property search and find who/what/when/where/price paid/value/location,taxes/sketch of the property or even a picture. All for free......../ | ||
| Mark61 |
Osama is probably in Aruba with a short hair style, wearing Izod shirts and surrounded by mostly naked party girls since he has enough money to buy a country if he feels like it. The Afagan "videos" are something he does after drinking mescale all week! mark61 | ||
| Aesquire |
I disagree, I think Osama's been dead for years. I haven't seen video of better than (old) cell phone quality for a long time, and having the CIA tell us it may be his voice on the really bad quality audio messages means little. Now...that may be a paranoid thought that nobody wants to admit the boogyman is dead, but why would AQ ever admit it? and without a head in hand, why would we want to declare him dead?...when being wrong about it would be more than embarrassing. I saw the video released after Sept.'01 where he was bragging to some sheikh how the guys on the airplanes that crashed into the WTC, Pentagon, and a field in PA, had no idea they were going to die. ( other than, of course, the pilots ) He laughed about it, as did the sheikh. I always thought that contempt for his own followers deserved far more repetition than it got. I'd jam Aljazeera's programing daily with that one. ( I'd also play Pink videos round the clock on all the TV channels in Iran, until they surrendered....but I'm cruel) The only other real video of Osama came out about a month later, and the CIA tracked his location from the mountains in the background. The battles in Tora Bora happened soon after, and I've seen diddle since...so I'd bet $5 he's long since toast. Did I miss a more recent video? Or, Osama is in Vegas, where what happens in.... (Message edited by aesquire on March 03, 2010) | ||
| Cataract2 |
All I'm gunna say.  |
