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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 11:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

GO LONGHORNS

GO GILBERT!!
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 11:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

damn... fumble...
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 12:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I really would have liked to see the game with McCoy.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 12:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well crap...

I didn't care who won until McCoy went out of the game....


but until next year


GO BUCKS!!


OH....... I O !!!
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 12:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I really would have liked to see the game with McCoy.

Given the way Bama played, if McCoy would have been in... it would have been a WHOLE different ball game
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Metalrabbit
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 12:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

wow that sucked, McCoy went out, ruined the game for me,, Damn
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J2blue
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 12:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rollllll TIDE! Yeah, that third quarter was ugly for Alabama. Gilbert deserves kudos for hanging in there. But it is a National Championship and I'm not disappointed in that.
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46champ
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 12:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm going to get flamed but Boise State would have beat either one.

(Message edited by 46champ on January 08, 2010)
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Idaho_buelly
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 01:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

46champ, Won't get flamed from me! I hear ya man!
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4cammer
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 01:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My 12 year old went to bed very ticked off....
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 01:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Boise State couldn't have carried the water for either team.
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Bigblock
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 02:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How do you keep Texas students off your lawn?















Put in a goalpost!
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Bigblock
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 02:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How do you get an Alabama graduate out of your yard?







Pay for the pizza!
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Paw
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 03:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

McCoy needed some of Big Ben's toughness...Who saw him play with an injured shoulder this past Sunday.
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Wbrisett
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 05:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

McCoy needed some of Big Ben's toughness..


According to all accounts he was begging to go back in, but the Brown wouldn't let him. As McCoy said "I'm not in any pain, I just can't feel my arm." Kind of hard to run an offense when you can't feel your arm. It will be interesting to see what they finally diagnose for it.

Wayne
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Davegess
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nobody wants to ruin his future.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah, as much as he and they would like the National Championship, it isn't worth it for him to ruin his pro career to get it.

It was a game of second stringers. McCoy was out. Ingram was also not up to full steam and was out for much of the game. Texas' center went out.

I don't think we got to see the full potential of either team. Once Alabama developed a substantial lead and it appeared that Texas was going to go 3 and out on every possession, Alabama play calling went virtually dormant. The entire 3rd quarter was played like the last possession of the team ahead with 1 minute to go.

As usual, the best games were the ones leading up to the Championship.


They had the right teams playing for the Championship. It just wasn't much of a show.
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Liquorwhere
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Boise State couldn't have carried the water for either team.

I don't think so Jeremy....Boise State and TCU were the teams NONE of the top wanted to play...NONE of them. I distinctly remember people saying Oklahoma would smoke them by 50 a few years back...I think we know that didn't happen now did it. Easiest way to disprove all the bench speculation, we need a playoff system, fixes all the problems.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 10:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would love to have a playoff system.

The problem is that BS doesn't play anyone.


They are like Florida State in the ACC. The toughest conference is the SEC. The problem is that after a good team has played other good teams all season, the wear starts to show. They have more injuries and are less effective the later in the season they go.

I don't hate BS, but their record isn't on par with an undefeated Texas or an undefeated Alabama.

It just isn't.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We do have a play off.... It starts with the the first game of the season

If you drop one game or don't play any of the big teams.... you're out.
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 11:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"I would love to have a playoff system."

I would too, problem is that almost all the bowl games this year were somewhat competitive, it sorta showed that teams were evenly matched and the BCS did its job.

College football needs to use Bowl games as playoffs leading up to a national title.
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Paw
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Quote>>>"We do have a play off.... It starts with the the first game of the season"

That is total crap and a cop out...I think the Superbowl should be between the Colts and Saints then. They have the best records and are top seeds, screw the playoffs!!! Heck NASCAR even has a playoff system if they can do it NCAA Div. 1 can too.

And here is a playoff system that will work and none of the bowl games would lose their money.

First off the college football regular season would have to drop back to 11 games for this to work...There are 11 conferences you take each conference champion and the 5 highest ranked teams to get a 16 team playoff system...All team would be seeded by their national ranking the first round of 8 games would be played in the higher seeds home field. After the first round, the second round of 4 games would be played in the top four bowl games. Then round three and the championship game would play in a three game championship bowl series and then you would have a true national title...The remaining bowl games would be filled by the teams losing in the first round and any other team who is bowl eligible who did not make the playoffs.

NCAA div II & III do it and play 14 to 15 games each year Div. I can too!!!

I have submitted this to the Bowl committee and the NCAA last year and got no reply or haven't heard any thing publicly about a possible playoff...What it boils down to is. If they decide to do a playoff system they are admitting after 75+ years that the current system has failed and nobody wants to be told and hear that they are wrong and I told you so!!!

My little playoff system can work and I'm sure with some fine tuning it would be the perfect way to get a true national champ!!!

Penn State has 5 undefeated season with only one title to show for them under JoePA. 1968, 1969, 1973, 1986 Championship and 1994...1982 Championship Penn State had 1 loss.

(Message edited by paw on January 08, 2010)
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 12:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That is total crap and a cop out...I think the Superbowl should be between the Colts and Saints then. They have the best records and are top seeds, screw the playoffs!!! Heck NASCAR even has a playoff system if they can do it NCAA Div. 1 can too.


a little testy today??... lol

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46champ
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jeremy I agree that Boise States body of work may not be equal to Texas or Alabama, (now I'm going to insert a Laura Ingram but monkey) But it isn't completely their fault no one will play them. They have gone as far as offering to play anyone on their field and no return date need be scheduled. They have had absolutely nobody stepping up to take them on they must be SCARED.
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Indybuell
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Go Butler Bulldogs!
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There is no upside for ANY team to play Boise State.

Alabama wouldn't have accepted an offer to play Texas, USC, TTU, or any other "good" team.

If Boise State COULD fill their schedule with all good teams, you'd see their win streak drop precipitously. They aren't a bad team, but either Texas OR Alabama would have pulled them apart.

The reason Penn State hasn't had more bites at the apple even with 5 undefeated seasons is that they were undefeated while their conference was in a slump.

Having an undefeated season in the SEC while the SEC is down doesn't mean you should have a shot at the title. It just means your conference is weak.

Even a playoff system wouldn't necessarily help alleviate a strength of schedule problem.

It just means you'd have a high seed team getting knocked off by a wild card team.

Boise State would be one of these.
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Liquorwhere
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 01:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If Boise State COULD fill their schedule with all good teams, you'd see their win streak drop precipitously. They aren't a bad team, but either Texas OR Alabama would have pulled them apart.

That is a lot of assumption with no actual fact to back it up, meaning, they have played large conference teams with winning records that won bowl games and DIDN'T get pulled apart. So there is no real data to suggest that your assumption is correct. Until they all get a shot at each other in a single elimination tournament, then there is just speculation, no fact, to state the argument. I don't think any team in the NCAA would've "pulled them apart" I do think they could've been beaten and I DO think they could've hung with or beaten any team in the country this year.


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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Again, I think you are missing my point. Part of the strength of schedule is the impact it has on a time over time. It's part of the reason that FSU was always fresh as a daisy at the end of every season. They didn't play anyone substantial. As a result, they had a complete uninjured first string team when others were nursing substantial injuries and impacts to their starters.

Bobby Bowden isn't less of a coach or recruiter than he was a decade ago. The difference is that the competition in the conference stepped up.

Given a playoff system based upon record only, teams would see to play the weakest conference they could. Teams would then have the best records and the healthiest players and be in the best position for a national championship.
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Liquorwhere
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 01:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

True, but you would still have to win more than one game to get there and if everybody is doing the same thing then you would have a fair system. Playoff's, just like the March Madness Tournament, is the way to go.

I get what you are saying, but I still think, Boise is much better than they were given credit for, problem was, the BCS didn't let them prove it. I would've loved to have seen Boise State play Florida, then we would've seen what was really up and who was REALLY better than who, but instead they put TCU against Boise, TCU should've played either Georgia Tech or Iowa. Either way, it is only spilt milk until the NCAA decides they want something better and as long as the money keeps rolling in, change will not happen.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, January 08, 2010 - 02:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I agree BS is better than some have said but they aren't to the level that should have given them a shot at the championship.

In 1999, Marshall went undefeated. There was a hue and cry that they should have been in the big game. Marshall plays no one in Conference USA.

How would you seed a team at 13-0 based on a schedule of no one?

There would still be a subjective "strentgh of schedule" in a play off system. This would lend to the arguments of teams being seeding lower than they should be.

All I know is that the SEC has been to the big dance 6 out of the last 12 championships.

They've won 6 out of 6.


The SEC went 6-4, the highest ranking of any conference in both bowl participation and wins, for the 2009 bowl season.

The SEC isn't always on top, but the SEC has been the strongest conference for quite a long time.
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