You gotta love this group of apprentices at the controls . . . I can't wait to depend on them for my health care in 10 years.
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U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY Transportation Security Administration
Aviation Security Directive
Subject: Security Directive Number: SD 1544-09-06 Date: December 25, 2009
EXPIRATION: 0200Z on December 30, 2009
This Security Directive (SD) must be implemented immediately. The measures contained in this SD are in addition to all other SDs currently in effect for your operations.
INFORMATION: On December 25, 2009, a terrorist attack was attempted against a flight traveling to the United States. TSA has identified security measures to be implemented by airports, aircraft operators, and foreign air carriers to mitigate potential threats to flights.
APPLICABILITY: THIS SD APPLIES TO AIRCRAFT OPERATORS THAT CARRY OUT A SECURITY PROGRAM REGULATED UNDER 49 CODE OF FEDERAL REGULATIONS (CFR)1544.101(a).
ACTIONS REQUIRED: If you conduct scheduled and/or public charter flight operations under a Full Program under 49 CFR 1544.101(a) departing from any foreign location to the United States (including its territories and possessions), you must immediately implement all measures in this SD for each such flight.
1. BOARDING GATE
1. The aircraft operator or authorized air carrier representative must ensure all passengers are screened at the boarding gate during the boarding process using the following procedures. These procedures are in addition to the screening of all passengers at the screening checkpoint.
1. Perform thorough pat-down of all passengers at boarding gate prior to boarding, concentrating on upper legs and torso. 2. Physically inspect 100 percent of all passenger accessible property at the boarding gate prior to boarding, with focus on syringes being transported along with powders and/or liquids. 3. Ensure the liquids, aerosols, and gels restrictions are strictly adhered to in accordance with SD 1544-06-02E.
2. During the boarding process, the air carrier may exempt passengers who are Heads of State or Heads of Government from the measures outlined in Section I.A. of this SD, including the following who are traveling with the Head of State or Head of Government:
1. Spouse and children, or
2. One other individual (chosen by the Head of State or Head of Government)
3. For the purposes of Section I.B., the following definitions apply:
1. Head of State: An individual serving as the chief public representative of a monarchic or republican nation-state, federation, commonwealth, or any other political state (for example, King, Queen, and President).
2. Head of Government: The chief officer of the executive branch of a government presiding over a cabinet (for example, Prime Minister, Premier, President, and Monarch).
2. IN FLIGHT
1. During flight, the aircraft operator must ensure that the following procedures are followed:
1. Passengers must remain in seats beginning 1 hour prior to arrival at destination. 2. Passenger access to carry-on baggage is prohibited beginning 1 hour prior to arrival at destination. 3. Disable aircraft-integrated passenger communications systems and services (phone, internet access services, live television programming, global positioning systems) prior to boarding and during all phases of flight. 4. While over U.S. airspace, flight crew may not make any announcement to passengers concerning flight path or position over cities or landmarks. 5. Passengers may not have any blankets, pillows, or personal belongings on the lap beginning 1 hour prior to arrival at destination.
AIRCRAFT OPERATOR ACKNOWLEDGMENT: The aircraft operator must immediately provide written confirmation to its assigned PSI indicating receipt of this SD.
AIRCRAFT OPERATOR dissemination required: The aircraft operator must immediately pass the information and directives set forth in this SD to all stations affected, and provide written confirmation to its PSI, indicating that all stations affected have acknowledged receipt of the information and directives set forth in this SD. The aircraft operator must disseminate this information to its senior management personnel, ground security coordinators, and supervisory security personnel at all affected locations. All aircraft operator personnel implementing this SD must be briefed by the aircraft operator on its content and the restrictions governing dissemination. No other dissemination may be made without prior approval of the Assistant Secretary for the Transportation Security Administration. Unauthorized dissemination of this document or information contained herein is prohibited by 49 CFR Part 1520 (see 69 Fed. Reg. 28066 (May 18, 2004).
APPROVAL OF ALTERNATIVE MEASURES: With respect to the provisions of this SD, as stated in 49 CFR 1544.305(d), the aircraft operator may submit in writing to its PSI proposed alternative measures and the basis for submitting the alternative measures for approval by the Assistant Administrator for Transportation Sector Network Management. The aircraft operator must immediately notify its PSI whenever any procedure in this SD cannot be carried out by a government authority charged with performing security procedures.
FOR TSA ACTION ONLY: The TSA must issue this SD immediately to the corporate security element of all affected U.S. aircraft operators.
FOR STATE DEPARTMENT: Retransmittal to appropriate foreign posts is authorized. Post must refer to STATE 162917, 201826Z Sep 01, Subject: FAA Security Directives and Information Circulars: Definitions and Handling, for specific guidance and dissemination.
Gale Rossides Acting Administrator
At least it's comforting to know . . . quoting our Chief of Homeland Security . . that "the system worked". Luckily . . the only thing that DIDN'T work was the fuse on a fairly sophisticated device.
This is the most entertaining administration I can recall. This is the same group . . if memory serves me . . who recently published, by accident, their SECRET security measures on the Internet.
Who will be the first passenger to pee in their seat because they are not allowed to go to the lavatory?
I have been on flights where it is quite cold in the cabin. Now, blankets are prohibited on the last hour. Who will file the first lawsuit claiming that their illness was due to being forced to freeze on a plane?
Midknyte, now, "the other passenger that had the balls to tackle him" would be "Detained" for breaking the Predetermined 1 hour Rule of leaving His seat. And I would hope for the sake of following Rules that a blanket/pillow was not used to subdue alleged Terrorist or Extinguish Flames.
I have a wealthy relative in the US who is willing to pay for my family to fly to visit him. It's a 12 hour drive or about 3 hours flying. However, since 9/11, with all the security measures, it has become a 12 hour flight with a lot of down time.
NY and Mass are nice to drive through. I choose to drive.
For every frustrated terrorist, there are 10000s of frustrated travellers. Frustrated travellers stop travelling and there goes a major source of income for the country.
Just put another long rant against Homeland Security in this space.
this doesn't look like it applies ti civilian transport.
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APPLICABILITY: THIS SD APPLIES TO AIRCRAFT OPERATORS THAT CARRY OUT A SECURITY PROGRAM REGULATED UNDER 49 CODE OF FEDERAL REGULATIONS (CFR)1544.101(a).
can anybody tell me what the current directive states and who it applies to?
the only way we are ever rid of radical fundalmentalist islamic terrorist f-tards is if the Moslim society deems they are worthy of turning in, imprisioning, killing..... I dont see that happening.
An angry sort of attitude fills me waiting in the security lineup to board an airplane. What a show! How's come we can take the train into downtown DC, without showing ID or a count of baggage carried aboard?
I'd have thought a few restrictions on ones comfort and pleasures whilst in flight would be a small sacrifice to make for the security of an aircraft and people in it and underneath it.
We're playing right into their hands. Every time they try to blow up a plane, we break out the body cavity searching equipment at the airports. Their intent is to disrupt our lives...it is working.
I say screw the ACLU and anyone else who may be offended. Profile Arab men in their 20's. We see the pattern, but can not act upon it. How freaking stupid is that? If the Dutch were attacking us, we'd be frisking the tall blond people.
Ride motorcycles, stay away from the big cities and never take an airplane again. What was that old saying about giving up freedom for security? We're letting the bastards tramp on our freedom and many seem willing to give it up for security. Pussies.
During the boarding process, the air carrier may exempt passengers who are Heads of State or Heads of Government from the measures outlined in Section I.A. of this SD, including the following who are traveling with the Head of State or Head of Government:
1. Spouse and children, or
2. One other individual (chosen by the Head of State or Head of Government)
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3. For the purposes of Section I.B., the following definitions apply:
1. Head of State: An individual serving as the chief public representative of a monarchic or republican nation-state, federation, commonwealth, or any other political state.For example, King, Queen, and President.
I got this from another site and it fits how I feel pretty darn well. People say what they're doing is more security. HA What a joke.
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As MFE stated - there is no "security" - there hasn't been since 9/11. For anyone who thinks that security has improved since then, you're just kidding yourself.
I assume there was no "air marshal" on this flight since it originated overseas - but then again, I'd be willing to bet there are hardly any air marshals on any domestic flights anymore, as from last reading, many of them were phased out due to costs.
Costs are the issue here - most of these Airports and Airlines are paying substandard pay to someone they deem "Airport Security Personal" - MANY of which can't tell the difference from a stick of gum to a stick of C4... Many don't have the proper training and those that are trained could care less of what's going in & out of the scanners or people meters - why should they on a pay scale of anywhere from $7-$12 per hr... These are not "professionals" - these are merely folks who are hired to fill a spot within the airport. They are the equivalent to your "Rent-A-Cop" that walks the Mall beats. You can call them Security and think of them as Security, but most have no clue what they are looking for or how to properly maintain actual security.
Then you have folks that are supposed to maintain all of these "terror lists" - lists which are inconsistent with each other, lists which some places have and others don't, lists with so many details/names/looky outs that no one knows how to maintain or really know WHO or WHAT to look out for.... but hey, it's a list, so it has to have some meaning and serve some purpose, right?
You have agencies upon agencies that get warnings of someone or something that is about to happen - but guess what - they don't take it seriously enough UNTIL something happens. This was the SAME instance w/ 9/11 - there were plenty of warnings, they even knew who to look for, but nothing was ever done about it... This new bumbling terrorist, his FATHER went to the US Embassy and told them he feared his son was up to something - yet still NOTHING was done about it. The guy was still able to get onto flights... What does THAT tell you - seriously? It tells you there is no security - because IF there was, this guy would have been under watch and most likely detained prior to even getting on ANY flight due to the concerns of his father...
Lots of people have their heads up their asses thinking 9/11 won't happen again - better think again, because every day that passes, these terrorists are becoming more and more sophisticated AND they are coming up w/ more ways of trying to initiate another type of 9/11 event HERE.
Sure, this idiot failed - but it was pure luck - had he not failed, what would everyone in "Security" be doing - blaming the next agency and persons who SHOULD HAVE stopped and/or prevented the event from happening, just like after 9/11... It was LUCK that his device did not blow up as intended... Now everyone is still standing around scratching their heads saying "Gee, how did this happen, how did this guy make it from A to B with all of our "SECURITY" checks in place... golly gee....".
So, the so called "War on Terror" continues w/ no real improvements - it's just another pot to where tax payer money is dumped. Keep paying the so called Airport Security around the world their big bucks, as we see, it really does work.... <sarcasm>
All this will do now, besides create more inconveniences for fliers is, it will now hurt the Airline Industry once again, and the cycle repeats.
The war on terror will be as affective as the war on drugs was.... really see any decline in that since the 'Just Say No' Days ? Nope, didnt think so. The current template that equates to the Just Say No campaign.... take a look at the rainbow colored threat chart
surprised it took this long for you all to jump on this. Profile Muslim? OK Mr. Rove. Whatever you say. What does a Muslim look like? Did a Muslim blow up the building in Oklahoma? Shit yes. Let's take a 5 or 6 decade step back in rights. A firecracker in his underwear and newspaper sandwiching black powder taped to his legs is a sophisticated bomb? Why would he wait until the plane landed to try to detonate his "bomb'? He was a lone nut.
He MAY have been a lone nut but it was a sophisticated military grade explosive (which he tired (and failed) to detonate an hour or so before landing) and today Al Queda claimed responsibility.
Apparently the deal was to ignite it "anywhere over America soil".
Who knows what's true? . . . . All I nkow is that you fine folks are footin' the bill for $100,000,000 worth of "extra" security for NYC for the next 6 months while we host KSM.
Rocco,he would not wait until landed! exploding over a city would not only kill all aboard but kill/terrorize the people below! And as Court points out this cost you,me and every body in this country(and the free world) big$$$$
Again, as Court points out, the US taxpayer is paying the bill for what?
Misguided focus.
At this point, and it could change any moment, the greater terrorist damage has been generated by domestic terrorists. The Oklahoma bombing was domestic. Even the 9/11 bombing was done by legal immigrants who had been in the US for years. They did all their flight training in the US.
The system was working before, border guards caught one bomber as he tried to enter.
Two others failed in flight and the immediate citizens stopped it. Not much of a system wide protection there. Or need.
Point is, US taxpayers/citizens are not getting the protection they want in a practical way.
Statistically, the threat is not coming to NA by air. Economically, the country can't sustain a strategy of constant universal surveillance.
Time will come when the protections will be needed. The time now should be used to build up a more focused approach. Homeland Security should be using this time to find out how to separate the real warnings they have been given for each event from all the "chatter" they hear.
Anybody on this site remember a US Petty Officer named Robert Stethem? He was a friend of mine. Aboard flight TWA 847 from Athens, Greece.He had been working at a base in Nea Makri, Greece. They threw his body out the plane on the tarmac after beating him to death.Like this incident, the problem there was not US security. It was security at an overseas airport that let that happen. How could the US taxpayers have stopped that?? our govt. reaction to this is a joke, but how could better security at JFK stop something from an overseas flight?? What blows is the fact that our govt' seems to think that the "fix" is to be footed by the US. i agree with iamarchangel that our secrity is laughable
Flying sucks anymore sucks!!!! Glad I only have to do it IF I decided to vacation outside of the CONUS.
In the balance of freedom vs secrurity, I'll take more freedoms!! Better to have lived and died a free man, than a prisoner under the veil of "security".
