| Author | Message | ||
     Bmonty72 |
I was asked for more info on my car that was in the background of my pics.... Here's a link to the photobucket album...http://s18.photobucket.com/albums/b104/bmonty72/Ca maro/ It a 2010 Camaro SS. We got the automatic trans, so it has 400hp (manual has 425). The color is called Inferno Orange Metallic, it has little gold flakes that give it a golden color when sunlight hits the angles. The ride is amazing, after driving this car for the weekend, my other cars feel all floaty, like an old Caddy or Lincoln. The auto has what's called Advanced Fuel Management (displacement on demand), it seems nice but the exhaust note is odd when it kicks in. | ||
| Swordsman |
That AFM... I'm assuming it cuts fuel to 2-4 of the cylinders until the pedal demands it? I believe I rmemeber Dodge having something like that on the Charger... Always seemed to me like that would cause a bit of a lag between wanting to go and actually going, especially in an automatic. Have you noticed anything like that, or is it pretty responsive? ~SM | ||
| Xl1200r |
I drove a Chrysler 300C that had the DOD V8. I could tell when the system was turning on and off, but only because I was really looking for it - it was really pretty benign in real-world conditions. There was no lag with the power coming on - if there was, it wasn't any slower than the transmission in a downshift. The injectors are all firing (or not) in intervals. When you mash the gas, they pick up on the next interval they'd reguarly hit at and you're off and going. | ||
| Oddball |
sweet  | ||
| Etennuly |
Congratulations! I love the profile of the new SS Camaro as it comes down the road at you. It looks like a poised monster dog about to pounce. My dream garage would hold one of each of the new pony cars. Fate had me miss the first round thirty eight years ago. I only had the '71 Camaro RS back then, but I had it for 8 1/2 years. It would look so cool to have the new Camaro, the Mustang, and the Challenger setting side by side out in the driveway on sunny Saturday afternoons. The colors would of course have to be a red, a white, and a blue. My daughter-in-law just got her SS Camaro in red with the black stripes a couple of weeks ago. My son said it is far and away more fun and a better car than my then new '94 Corvette was. They will be here over the Holidays with it.....we shall see. | ||
| Doughnut |
Is the back seat just for looks? | ||
| Bads1 |
I like the Camaro also but don't feel GM did it justice by making it so big number one. Put it next to a new Dodge Charger and its just as big. Then its the weight issue. Camaro's of the past have never been this big. Make it smaller and at the same time lose the weight and it would be even a better performer. | ||
| Froggy |
Where do you think they got that idea from? 
It takes only 2RPM to fully switch between 4 and 8 cylinders on GM's setup. It is quite sweet, if I had the resources I would adapt it to my Buells. | ||
| Bmonty72 |
XL1200r is right. I can tell when the AFM kicks in, but there is very little lag when you punch it. The back seat has 2 seatbelts...We can put our 2 4 year olds in there real easy...We've taken the car out with another couple and had two (small) adult women in the backseat. They had plenty of side-side room, but very very little leg room!! As far as the weight goes...I think 400 hp makes up for a few extra pounds. The styling of the car is awesome, a real head-turner. The interior pays a nice homage to the 67-69 Camaro... | ||
| Etennuly |
I would adapt it to my Buells.  Try to exclude the Blast from this experiment! Cadillac had that cylinder cut out in the early eighties. For the lack of a better term, what I remember of it, it sucked. The 'puters weren't up to the task. I recall seeing them limp into the dealerships with problems from that system. I worked in the body shop side of the dealership so I didn't get into the specifics, but several of my mechanic buddies said that they would start carrying weapons to work just to shoot them!  | ||
| Doughnut |
I would adapt it to my Buells. I would love to just get my Buell to run on four, much less get it to switch to 8 cylinders! | ||
| Bads1 |
400 HP would be better on a diet. My 09 WRX. Is a 4 banger with 305 HP and performance wise its in the same relm in performance specs as the CAMARO.Like I said I like the car just make it slightly smaller. If they did it would be a destroyer no doubt. | ||
| Xl1200r |
I like the Camaro also but don't feel GM did it justice by making it so big number one. Put it next to a new Dodge Charger and its just as big. Then its the weight issue. Camaro's of the past have never been this big. Make it smaller and at the same time lose the weight and it would be even a better performer. I have to say, the Camaro looks a little smaller in person than it does in pictures to me. But overall size is actually right in line with every other generation of Camaro - in fact, it's smaller in some ways, even. 1967-69 - 184.6" long, 72.3" wide, 50.7" high 1970-82 - 188.0" long, 74.4" wide, 50.5" high 1983-92 - 192.6" long, 72.4" wide, 50.4" high 1993-02 - 193.3" long, 74.1" wide, 51.8" high 2010-?? - 190.4" long, 75.5" wide, 54.2" high So, the 2010 is the shortest Camaro since the 2nd gen went out of production in 1982, and only 6" longer than the shortest ever (1st gen). It is, however, the tallest and widest ever... | ||
| Doughnut |
dose'nt look it | ||
| Xl1200r |
Bads - be fair. 305hp is not stock for your Subie, and at a 3200 lbs weight, the power to weight ratio means the Subaru is pulling nearly 2.5 lbs more per hp than the Camaro. And keep in mind the Camaro with the manual trans adds 26 hp to the mix. Acceleration - you're on par to 60, but once the bennefit of AWD wears off, you're a second and a half slower to 100mph. Close, but no cigar. | ||
| Xl1200r |
dose'nt look it I agree - it looks and feels bigger than it's predecessors. | ||
| Etennuly |
Bads, It sounds like you have the right car for you. The pony cars of the 60's and 70's were always around the same size as the new editions, except the Mustang II. The lightest Camaros were the '67,68,69. From '70 1/2 they gained weight. I'm going to look up the specs when I have time, but I would bet the new ones are very close to the same size and weight as the '71 I had. It had easy room for five adults, the smallest of which got the 'hump'. The '71 to '73 Firebirds that I used for racing back then lost a lot of parts getting under 2800 pounds. Don't forget those old ones only had aluminum in the alternator housings and fan spacers, most everything else was steel or iron. | ||
| Xl1200r |
Etennuly - Camaros stayed around 3200 lbs up until they were killed off in 2002. The 2010 gained 500 lbs. | ||
| Court |
Gads . . . I bought a new car today by accident an I'm afraid to tell anybody what I bought of how. But . . in the horsepower war . . . quoting Warner Wolf . . "I LOOSE". Camaro looks GREAT . . . but I am one of those hundreds of thousands of folks who wouldn't give GM a nickel while the government owns them. | ||
| Jb2 |
+1 Court. Ford is still standing tall on its own. | ||
| Crackhead |
From Subaru's website for the 2010 Impreza STI 305-hp SUBARU BOXER engine 2.5-liter DOHC intercooled, turbocharged aluminum-alloy 16-valve 4-cylinder horizontally opposed SUBARU BOXERŽ engine. With a few upgrades it can climb into the 400 hp. The AWD does hit the STI with a weight penalty, but you will not believe the driving experience. | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
"Gads . . . I bought a new car today by accident an I'm afraid to tell anybody what I bought of how." The new Taurus SHO is hot! | ||
| Madduck |
Court, I bought a jeep compass, stick and in bright blue. I own three motorcycles with more hp than my jeep. One of them gets worse highway mileage. Performance costs. Could you have possibly done something more embarassing?? A volvo with 30 cats would probably be embarassing enough to not post about on here. | ||
| Bads1 |
Bads - be fair. 305hp is not stock for your Subie, and at a 3200 lbs weight, the power to weight ratio means the Subaru is pulling nearly 2.5 lbs more per hp than the Camaro. And keep in mind the Camaro with the manual trans adds 26 hp to the mix. Acceleration - you're on par to 60, but once the bennefit of AWD wears off, you're a second and a half slower to 100mph. Close, but no cigar.,>>>>>>>>>> Rethink that for second. Subaru WRX STI Power/torque 305 hp/290 lb-ft 0-60 mph 4.7 sec 0-100 mph 13.3 sec Quarter mile 13.4 @ 100.4 mph Braking, 60-0 mph 106 ft 111 ft Lateral acceleration 0.94 g 0.93 g MT figure eight 25.3 sec @ 0.73 g BTW I have a friend that has the Transformers look alike. We have played around a bit and he can't pull me..... but I can't pull him. I weigh less. I kill him though out of the hole. It really comes down to the driver. Those specs above were pulled by motortrend. Just about all the tests mimick theres. (Message edited by bads1 on November 19, 2009) | ||
| Cityxslicker |
anybody seen the SEMA Trans Ams on that platform ? delicious. Damn shame they killed Pontiac. I bet even a nasty GTO Judge would fit nicely in the line up, sad to see Pontiac go.   Though that rear wing window on both models annoys me, wrong lines for that style, then need to fill it to be closer to the orginals. | ||
| Kyrocket |
O.K. so Camaro makes a comeback and pays homage to the 1st gen., does that mean the next body style will mimic the 2nd (my favorite) gen? I sure hope so. I really like the new Camaros. I've seen a yellow and silver one in the past two days and they make me dislike my Avalon that much more. If I could buy one new sports car right now I'd have a hard time deciding which one. | ||
| Xl1200r |
Bads - my bad, I didn't think you had an STI. Still, a V8 Camaro can be had for $4,000 less than an STi. Regardless, if I were spending that kind of coin on a car, a new Mustang with a the Track Package really gets me going... I've never been a Ford guy, but the Government Motors situation makes me change my tune (a little, not entirely), and sitting in a 2010 Camaro and a 2010 Mustang side by side really changed my feelings on the Mustang. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
Take a look at the white 455 HO redeux above, you will see it has more of the second gen lines you are talking about, its just that damn rear quarter window that spoils the look. Maybe somebody will come out with appropriate body kit conversions. | ||
| Bads1 |
Xl1200r Go check the regular WRX performance specs on a 09. They are just about as fast as the STI..... REALLY. The STI you get brakes spring with adjustable struts onboard. Really the STI isn't all that much faster. All these new cars are fast. Heck a cat back exhaust and a cold air intake will push that maro in the 12 second barrier. Many are doing just that. That I can see on the net. My car is hopefully going to get tunes this winter. I have cold air intake on and I have SPT cat back sytem on. I need to buy a Cobb accsess port for the tuning. I'm after the 305HP the factory says it has. But I want it to the tires.... not crank HP. I find that its easy to get. Then I'll be happy. I just want reliability. | ||
| Etennuly |
I see what you are talking about with the 1/4 window. A '67-9 style on a '70+ style car. The spoiler I could live with. I like that '71 style front end. That is what my first dirt race car was. |
