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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, November 07, 2009 - 02:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have never bought a bike because of an ad campaign, or a 'experts' riding opinion of it. Have they made me look, sure, but all of them were sold because of saddle time and my own perception of how the bike will run for my needs.

I dont think I have ever seen an ad for a CityX running the muck chasin DRZ's and KTMs ; )


PS girl needs a sammich, I have a picnic waiting for her.
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Brumbear
Posted on Saturday, November 07, 2009 - 04:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You know there were and still are a few company's that had huge military deals and had huge history's with the Military. As a matter of fact I think the military kept H-D alive for a few year.
BMW
Triumph
Indian
Ural
NSU
They don't or didn't seem to sell machines that way. I am biased H-D is full of Beans they could easily sell off Buell and the patents if they wanted to get it done they would. They are crying the money blues so sell em even at a loss its a gain right now. They said they have no plans on manufactoring Buells H-D stock can't seem to break 28$ so this whole move is just a crock and Harley is flaling and trying to cash in where they can I wish them destruction.
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Jammin_joules
Posted on Saturday, November 07, 2009 - 04:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You have to realize the people making these promotions up with Harley, like the Disabled American Veterans association and its Harley's Heroes that support a fleet of mobile service office trucks helping veterans learn about and file for their earned benefits, had nothing to do with the Buell decision.

If you can't get behind the Harley promotion, take some photos of you on your Buell and write some messages for deployed soldiers, and drop them off at your local Harley dealership and ask them to be included in the mailing of the promotional post cards.

Don't let the decisions of Wandell in the H-D board room stop you from doing a good thing.
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Pkforbes87
Posted on Saturday, November 07, 2009 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Jammin_joules
Posted on Saturday, November 07, 2009 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yeah, and this is so much more wholesome a promotion.

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/406 2/512111.html?1257628090
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Chellem
Posted on Saturday, November 07, 2009 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you can't get behind the Harley promotion, take some photos of you on your Buell and write some messages for deployed soldiers, and drop them off at your local Harley dealership and ask them to be included in the mailing of the promotional post cards.

I think that is an AWESOME idea. In fact, we have a small box here of a few Buell goodies, race team shirts, stickers and what-not that we were planning to ship overseas. If anyone in the area wants to drop something off, pictures or post cards, with a few kind words we'd be HAPPY to take them here!

Hell, I'll even put a little post card together if there's any interest...

->ChelleM

P.S. "in the area" for us is Rahway, NJ. Near Newark. Surely you've heard of Newark then.
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Endoman33
Posted on Saturday, November 07, 2009 - 06:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This just goes to show how far behind the times HD is. They are still living in the past. I support the United States Armed services and all they do for us as citizens of the US. But HD using Ms.Miller for a military ad campain come on, women serve in the military as well.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Saturday, November 07, 2009 - 07:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

She's hot.... no if's, and's or but's... she's just HAWT!

and if I was still in the "Suck", It would make me feel pretty damn good to have her stop by and flash that smile at me and sign a poster or something.... then I would have something for the ole' spank bank for the rest of the deployment.

I would still like to have a FLHRP to chase squids with at the dragon....

I'm pissed at the people running the show. not the bike... I like bikes.. and a Harley is kinda like that chick ya pick up at last call.... may not be what you want to be seen on.. It may not be the sleekest thing you have ridden, it may be a little heavy, but at least you still have something to ride....
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Brumbear
Posted on Saturday, November 07, 2009 - 07:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccplJD-4I1A
my type of add song
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Skinstains
Posted on Saturday, November 07, 2009 - 08:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Lemmy kicks-ass.
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Oldog
Posted on Saturday, November 07, 2009 - 09:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I watched part of it I could not get past the shots of the "brain childern" who think this stuff up.

she could sell baged ice to eskimos.

the girl is cute, the bikes are not my taste, and I opted out of the life style

at 17 the image of new HDs with bread pans umder then is forever burned into my brain.

its more of the same, remember the sheep?


Hey HD, why not some fun wholesome shots of friends and familys riding together enjoying the ride and the felloship?

a much more apealing life style,

From the porch, blabhaahbblabhaahbblabhaahb
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Whatever
Posted on Saturday, November 07, 2009 - 11:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

and a Harley is kinda like that chick ya pick up at last call.... may not be what you want to be seen on.. It may not be the sleekest thing you have ridden, it may be a little heavy, but at least you still have something to ride....

That is too damn funny! Works both ways...
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 12:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just curious how many of our Buell bretheren are vets, both at the factory and out in the rider mix. From the previous sound off boards, I think we had a pretty sizable contribution there too.

Where was our Vet appreciation?>

PS I would really love to run that six week off road course on somebody elses bike ; )
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Brumbear
Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 08:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am a Vet US ARMY 1983-1987
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

USMC aka "The Suck" 1985-1991

The problem I have seen first hand with some H-D riders is, they don't ride.
I did say SOME, not all. I was a very active member of HOG.... was a Road Captain, Membership officer and then Director at the local HOG chapter. Like every where else, you have a small group that does all the work.... and a large group that tells ya how you should have done it. I just got tired of the "Lets go for a RIDE".... for 50 miles... stop and eat... then go home....

Then I test rode a Uly.... and now you know the rest of the story.
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F_skinner
Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 10:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just curious how many of our Buell bretheren are vets

This deserves a separate thread.

SIGINT Operator
RF Analyst
SENIOR SCOUT
1st Sgt


HD Riders, well, I ride with many of them. They do serious miles. I have seen HD, Buell, BMW, KZ etc riders that do not ride. Just because I like to do ride my bikes I expect that other people have bikes for different reasons, they may just to get out for a 100 miles on a weekend, do toy runs and parades look cool t the bars etc. That is cool. Not my thing but that is ok. I do not care for the "when are you going to get a real bike" comment but then again those people fall into the category of people with bikes vice people that ride.

City, what branch were you a linguist in?
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Cyclonedon
Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

this thread was about HD newest ad campaign and all of us on this motorcycle forum saw what the results were with the new Buell ad campaign that Harley made. Just give it a year and we will start to see the results for the new Harley ad campaign.

I don't see it looking very good! If I owned HOG stock, I'd be moving it for sure!

Harley is in desperate need for new leadership and I'm not so sure that there going to be able to get it in time to keep the ship from sinking.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 05:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was a bonus wh@re
1986-1993 USNR
1996-1998 DOD attached to USMC in Bosnia
1998-2001 USN-A
2001-2004 Washington National Guard

Hard to believe that 20 years ago the wall fell. I hoped services chasing the bonus, where ever the money was the most, thats where I went. It was all 'reserve' but several LONG deployments.
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Brumbear
Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 05:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hard for me to think about a unified Germany at all I tell my 22 year old you were born in West Germany that place doesn't even exsist as a nation anymore, The Entire World has changed in 20 years
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Jammin_joules
Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Excuse the somewhat change of direction but all this raw exposing of emotion makes me want to boast.

Sometimes the Phrench get it right, even if its 60+ years late. This is about my father, and although he can barely see, this ad campaign resonates with him, and it is his support, and those like him, that are home who Harley is appealing to to show signs of support for those over seas.

At the end of the day, we ride motorcycles and we are uber fortunate to be able to have choices of numerous brands, styles and such to chose from. But there are many in this world today who have so much more dire or serious choices to confront every day.We need to keep that in mind when getting super critical of a company that is at least trying to support some of those folks in their own way.

Years ago in better health, Dad has ridden on my Road King but could not get up on my Uly nor fold up to be a passenger on an 1125R. But he has met the national commander of the DAV, Rob Reynolds, who came to our dealership to thank us for our (then) 20 years of fund raising for the DAV on his ride from the DAV convention in Vegas to Milwaukee for the 105th, on his FLHX. We hosted him in Winter Park (near South Park?) for the Veterans Rally there and I parked my Buell next to his highly customized FLHX Tribute Bike there. He would be paralyzed if it were not for an appliance embedded under his skin that stimulates his spinal chord.

For what it is worth, Harley also has one of its most successful growth segments selling to women.

http://www.mlive.com/news/bay-city/index.ssf/2009/ 11/bay_county_veteran_valerian_pr.html

Bay County Michigan veteran Valerian Przygocki awarded France's Knight of the Legion of Honor medal


November 08, 2009, 4:35AM

World War II veteran Valerian Przygocki was recently awarded the Knight of the Legion of Honor medal originated by Napoleon in 1802 from the French Government for his and other's efforts to drive the German occupation out in 1944 and 1945.

The liberation of France began with the D-Day invasion on June 6, 1944, but on that day, Przygocki was recovering in a hospital in Naples, Italy, after being wounded by shrapnel from a mortar round. He was with his unit in the 36th Infantry Division as it was about to capture Rome when he was wounded, earning him his first Purple Heart medal.

More than 50 years after Bay City veteran Valerian Przygocki helped to drive the German army out of France, the French government has given him some unexpected recognition.

Przygocki, now 86, was one of six Michigan veterans awarded France’s Knight of the Legion of Honor medal in a ceremony Oct. 28 in Detroit.

The former U.S. Army medic thought his wartime honors were in his past. So the new accolade will make Veterans Day on Wednesday special for Przygocki this year.

“This was a surprise, I must say,” Przygocki said. “I didn’t expect anything like this. It is a pretty medal, too.”

Przygocki was last feted in 2004 as Bay County’s Veteran of the Year. The honor recognized not only his World War II record of heroic action but also his subsequent activities on behalf of veterans and others in the community.

He also has other military medals and ribbons, including a Silver Star, a Bronze Star and two Purple Hearts.

The government of France cited Przygocki for his efforts in 1944 and 1945 to drive the German occupation army from French soil. French Consul General Jean-Baptiste Main de Boissiere, based in Chicago, conducted the medal ceremony.

“They saved us and we will never forget,” Boissiere said in a written statement given to Przygocki.

The six veterans honored by France were from different units and fought in separate battles, but Przygocki is one of the few surviving veterans involved in amphibious landings in Sicily, Italy and France.

“We could hear some men calling for help when they were hit,” he said. “The mortars were coming in, hitting the trees above us and exploding all around. I got to a sergeant who was already dead, and then I moved over to a lieutenant who was wounded. Then I got hit.”

The 36th division moved on as part of a second invasion of France, Operation Dragoon, landing units in the south of France on Aug. 15, 1944, and Przygocki was with them.

“We were to go to a place called Red Beach, but the admiral felt the place was too well defended and decided on his own to shift it about 15 miles to St. Raphael and Frejus. We went ashore with no bullets fired at us. We sure were grateful to the admiral for that,” he said.

Inland, though, was a different story, as they faced fierce German opposition. His unit fought at Lyon, Alsace-Lorraine and then through Bavaria and into Austria. He was wounded again in action, this time by a German sniper. He was able to recover and was with his unit when the war ended in August 1945.

Among the accomplishments of the 36th Division was the capture of Field Marshal Herman Goering and Field Marshal Gerd von Rundstedt. Men from the 36th also liberated a number of concentration camps associated with Dachau, near Munich.

A Bay City native, Przygocki said it was by chance that he ended up in the 36th Division, which was also known as the Texas Division because it had been part of the Texas National Guard.

“There were quite a few of us who weren’t from Texas who were assigned to the division because we were replacements,” he said. Still, they were honorary Texans because their shoulder patch had a large capital T in the middle of it.

He and many other men of the division were sent to the port at LaHavre for a return home in September 1945. After his discharge, he worked at Kuhlman Electric for 20 years and Industrial Brownhoist before joining the United Way as a labor representative.

He married his wife Mildred in 1949 and is the father of Judith Hayward of Shelby Township and David Przygocki of Colorado.

The 36th Division, with men like Przygocki, was instrumental in the liberation of France. The French government continues to praise their effort.

“I want you to know that for us, the French people, they are heroes,” Boissiere said of the American soldiers. “Gratitude and remembrance are forever in our souls. You, Mr. Przygocki, are among these heroes.”}
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Jammin_joules
Posted on Sunday, November 08, 2009 - 10:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rob Reynolds is in the center, all but me on the right are Disabled American Vet state & local officials




The Harley's Heroes red emblem is actually a frenched-in LED tail light.



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Swordsman
Posted on Monday, November 09, 2009 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"They let Buell hang themselves with the new company. Remember B.O.B.?"

Maybe someone already addressed this (didn't read every post), but exactly how do you determine that a, what, two month ad campaign failed? The doors got closed before there was any chance for it to take hold.

~SM
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Swordsman
Posted on Monday, November 09, 2009 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And I don't even know who Marissa Miller is...?

~SM
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Monday, November 09, 2009 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And I don't even know who Marissa Miller is...?

Do a yahoo image search.... I would say she is one of the hottest women on the planet....

and I'm not a big fan of blondes....
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Monday, November 09, 2009 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Maybe someone already addressed this (didn't read every post), but exactly how do you determine that a, what, two month ad campaign failed?"

Sword, I responded to a posted who said something like.."maybe HD should have put the same efforts into promoting Buell"

All I stated was that Buell went outside of HD's marketing for BOB. Harley, in the end wasn't even promoting Buell.

I agree, the new marketing scheme never really had a chance to catch on.

(Message edited by Buellinachinashop on November 09, 2009)
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Liquorwhere
Posted on Monday, November 09, 2009 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ummmm...sorry, whats wrong with these ads??

The ads are fine, the chick is a skinny bean pole with no A$$, I guess that is what is sexy...I missed that memo...give me some good old punk rock tattooed chick with some meat on her bones and an attitude to match...that one looks so breakable....anyway....
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Monday, November 09, 2009 - 11:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"The ads are fine, the chick is a skinny bean pole with no A$$,"

Looks ok to me.

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Swordsman
Posted on Monday, November 09, 2009 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

HOT DAMN!

~SM
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Whatever
Posted on Monday, November 09, 2009 - 01:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Among the accomplishments of the 36th Division was the capture of Field Marshal Herman Goering

Wow... that is pretty amazing... and I even think that Harley is very sexy... even though I am still mad at the HD MoFo...

China, now you have done it we are headed to the Backfire Board...
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Monday, November 09, 2009 - 01:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

She's wearing undies
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