| Author | Message | ||
     Rocketman |
Next they need to figure out how to make some money They've ridden on a knife edge for several years now. I hope MV come through. They build great motorcycles that push the advancement of alternative to Japanese superbikes. Without MV there would only be Ducati left, and the 1098 incarnation looks like an Italian take on an R1. Whilst I understand Ducatis need to make their styles appeal to a wider audience, it also cements MV as something much more exotic. Without those kinds of choices the industry would become even more sanitised. More so now Buell have gone. Nice to hear you Dave  Rocket | ||
| Rocketman |
I just don't think they're the be-all end-all of sport motorcycling. I don't think Buell is either (I just think they're closer) Not sure what you mean by this. Are you saying an 1125 is more of a sports bike than an MV F4? Rocket | ||
| Brumbear |
I think the brutale is one sexy machine and all the Augusta machines are outstanding and I know a few guys with them they like em alot I like what they are I am not sure I honestly don't know if I would buy one . I will give 1 problem that was before H-D bought them so I can't speak for now but my friend had a Brutale and he broke a clutch part and had to wait 6 weeks for a single part I do not know how the parts network is presently but I think the US does not have a very good set up for MV parts. That being said I still could think about one as the brutale is simply georgous and tourque for a 4 cyl. But alas they are to much money and I got my BUELLs which I love so I will happily stay with Buells and admire the MV while they are still here | ||
| Rocketman |
Where are the TVR pics? And are back in business yet? The Russian is not parting with the name, and it seems he's doing nothing. Whether or not he'll sell the name or resurrect TVR is the 64 thousand dollar question everyone's asking. No one knows. But reading the TVR forums the young Russian is disliked by many so I doubt he's much inspired. TVR pics?   Rocket | ||
| Xl1200r |
the 1098 incarnation looks like an Italian take on an R1. Whilst I understand Ducatis need to make their styles appeal to a wider audience, it also cements MV as something much more exotic. Gotta disagree in that the MV F4 looks far more Japanese than the Ducati. Whether that's because MV copied them or the Japanese copied the MV (I think the Gixxers of that era drew on MV design features, such as the headlight), doesn't much matter. Not sure what you mean by this. Are you saying an 1125 is more of a sports bike than an MV F4? No, that's not what I'm saying. What I mean to say is that, for me, my Buell is not everything I want a motorcycle to be, but it's closer than the MV is (either of them). The Buell can do things the MV can't and vise versa - I don't see that as one bike being better than the other in a broad sense - personal preference would change that. Nice car - TVR is one of the many marques I wish we had access to on this side of the pond. | ||
| Rocketman |
I can't speak for Massimo Tamburini, but I think you just insulted him more than calling his momma a ho! Sorry, I thought you were talking sportsbike specific. Agreed, an F4 is obviously focused as a full on race style bike, which limits its practicality somewhat. Even next to an 1125. Well, to be fair the 1125 was designed with the comfort of middle aged bikers in mind where as the F4 was modeled around a 10 stone racing snake, lol. Rocket | ||
| Skinstains |
So now we all have to look at an ugly Miyata with the steering wheel on the wrong side. Let's get back to two wheelers eh ? | ||
| Rocketman |
TVR is one of the many marques I wish we had access to on this side of the pond. There is a pretty active owners club in North America. You can find them through the TVR Car Club Rocket | ||
| Xl1200r |
Just finished watching a Robert Plant concert - I got my Brit fix for the month  | ||
| Rocketman |
So now we all have to look at an ugly Miyata with the steering wheel on the wrong side. Don't think I've come across a 5.0 ltr V8 Miyata capable of 165mph. Rocket | ||
| Rocketman |
I was at the front not 10 feet from him when Zep played the o2 arena. That fixed me for a while, lol. Rocket | ||
| Xl1200r |
It's such a shame for, being born three years after Bonham died, to not have the ability to see so many great bands for any number of reasons... Rocket - just to clarify - did you like 750 better than 910 because it asked you to wring it's neck more often? I know that's a love it/hate it quality of cars like the Honda S2000. I enjoy being able to short shift the bejesus out of a grunty motor. | ||
| Brumbear |
Bohnam died ? | ||
| Greest_lightnin |
GO ROCKET!!!  | ||
| Rocketman |
Rocket - just to clarify - did you like 750 better than 910 because it asked you to wring it's neck more often? Oh absolutely! (my test ride of the Brutale 750 and the F4 1000 is archived in the tail section somewhere) See, what happened was I got the test ride on the 750, 300 miles from home. I got up late, stupidly, that Saturday morning, and the panic of missing something I'd waited years for set in. I got the leathers on, cash and mobile in pocket and nowt else, and set off with a rough idea of road planning in my head. Consider we are a crammed island nation and roads do not make alternative motorcycle fun routes easy, lol. I kicked the 916's head in for all of those 300 miles, arrived just about in time to find out the 750 had broke - but there were others. I waited, and blagged a go on the Benelli TNT. Then I got the 750, and of course, warmed up and on fire by the 300 mile commute, the TNT thrash, and now finally on the Brutale, I went loopy on it and loved it. It just screamed play with me - all the way to 13500rpm. I had the impression I'd kill this bike in no short time it revved so high and hard! But then I spoilt it all by blagging another unexpected test ride that day on the F4. I came back to the shop and told the manager he'd just lost the sale of a 750 Brutale. The Thou is just so mind bogglingly ballistic. Fast does not describe how fast it really is. I've ridden some older Blades, R1, Zeds, a couple of Busa's, and it makes them all feel like sports tourers. I can't imagine what the R312 must be like. So I wanted that engine in the Brutale so off I went to wait. The pic above of me with the 910S we back to back tested over a couple of hundred miles with the 1098S. The Brutale handling is absolutely sublime. I was fortunate enough to find myself on a traffic free country road when an SP1 (RC51) came past us at speed. My friend's had three SP's of varying models \ age and loves them to this day, and he knows how capable they are - of which he's told me often when we've been out riding together, me on the S1W. Against the Brutale it was clear it was outdated and out performed, despite a good dice and strong effort from its pilot, the Brutale ate it up. The 910 is a total powerhouse and very very fast for a sit-up and beg motorcycle. It's deceptively fast in fact. But that's its problem. It just gets there so very quickly with absolutely no effort, it fails to engage you like the 750. It isn't a dull bike. Not at all. But if you want to avoid finding the thrills of naked bike riding at very high speed somewhat sacrificing the fun on the way, well that's what the 910 does. If you want to plod, so to speak, and have the performance ready when you want, then it's a great bike. Obviously its refinement makes it more complete and easier to use anywhere any occasion. The 750 is not the same. On a 100 and something horse power plunge into the landscape for a couple of hours, the 750 would give you a bloody good upper body workout! You'd arrive home, thrilled, satisfied, and worn out, lol. Being the sadist I am, I'd like to wear myself out and push for several hours! The 750 is like a junkies quick fix. The 910 is more of a complete all rounder, and a very potent capable one at that. Remember the 750 wowed the worlds press with its hooligan behaviour. The 910 was received with a little more maturity about it. Rather like the young bull and the old bull on the hill top looking down at a herd of cows. Young bull sez to old bull, let's run down the hill and go f**k one of them cows. Old bull sez let's walk down and f**k 'em all. There in is the difference between the 750 and the 910 Brutes!!! Rocket | ||
| Rocketman |
Might I be allowed another Miat,,,,,,,,sorry Griff pic? Well, it is the equivalent of a hooligan motorcycle on 4 wheels!!! Thought so, ta  Rocket | ||
| Bads1 |
Miata's with conversions to the 5 liter and a Paxton or Vortech can do 165 though. I've seen them at Road America for like the Brian Redman challenge on display. Don't know if I like them but they are quick cars. BTW Rocket the TVR looks HOT!!!! | ||
| Lemonchili_x1 |
"Not that Buell was making a ton, I think they had one year of profit and were getting closer to being able to repeat that. " Dave - Do you mean Buell or MV only had one year of profit? "So now we all have to look at an ugly Miyata with the steering wheel on the wrong side."  You funny!!! Kind of like saying a Ducati Streetfighter looks like an SV650 | ||
| Rocketman |
Miata's are a bit of a problem here. As they're imports, and the young have bought them, many insurance companies refuse to cover them. No problem for a home grown MX5, but it sucks when the insurance co's dictate through policy what's allowable on our roads. But that's another argument in a different kitchen. But yes there are plenty of very fast MX5's over here too, and one has to be careful engaging when in such like a TVR. It can be somewhat embarrassing for the first mile or three, lol. Don't even mention the modern era turbo oil burners, lol. Even white van man fancy their chances these days when they come upon a TVR!!!! Are they nuts!! Rocket | ||
| Bads1 |
Yeah I just bought a 2009 Subaru wrx hatch. I'm only planning sways,coils,and Bilstein struts. I'm not doing much other then a cold air intake access port and having it tuned. Most are getting about 300- 305 hp with this done. Fun car to drive. | ||
| Rocketman |
Oh dear, I'm not a Subaru fan at all. 4 wheel drive is cheating, lol. Rocket | ||
| Bott |
Most are getting about 300- 305 hp with this done. Fun car to drive. Started running my R at the drags late in September. never cared for the "tuner cars"....till I saw them run. WOW! The technology of these lil old four bangers is just amazing. 20 years ago, a 300+ hp Subaru streetcar was just someone's wet dream. I have a whole new respect for those cars. (except the sh!tbox ones that cruise my neighborhood with those bomber pipes,massive rear wings,and more horsepower in the stereo than in the engine) then again....the "hogs" with chrome everywhere, straight pipes and 65 hp annoy me too, LoL | ||
| Rocketman |
Steering away from four wheels, Ferrari were involved in the design of MV's 4 pot radial valve engine  Rocket | ||
| Fast1075 |
M.V.'s are exceedingly rare in my part of the world. I ran across a fellow with a new Brutale a couple of months ago. The bike was amazing in appearance. I did not have the opportunity to ride with the owner, but the sound of the engine was spectacular. I invited the fellow to come ride with the club...and was snobbed like a schoolboy. I hope that sort of thing is not a required part of ownership. That's all OK...we have plenty of fun. between the Buells and the odd mix of European and Japanese bike riders that show up, we have a great time. Speaking of which...we ride tomorrow...65 degrees and clear...going to go service my gear. | ||
| Rocketman |
The Brutale seems to have sold to bikers over here. The few I've met that own them always strike me as being petrol heads. I usually ask what they had previously or own too as well as the Brutale, car and bike, and their answers usually impress me. Maybe MV owners are bikers with good taste, lol!! Rocket | ||
| 46champ |
Fast1075 I think snob is an absolute requirement to own an MV. | ||
| Dentguy |
except the sh!tbox ones that cruise my neighborhood with those bomber pipes We call those "Fart Buggies" because of the exhaust sound. | ||
| Bads1 |
We call those "Fart Buggies" because of the exhaust sound. Yeah Thats counts for many of them. But since I have become a member of as Subaru forum and have met about 30 owners in my area. Most have the average mods. Don't knock the mufflers some of them might be noise makers but some are not. A subie can gain some good power off just exhaust mods. Theres about 12 of the guys that I met that their cars are pushing 450 WHP. One of the guys is almost 600 and on pump gas. I used to feel the same as you till I opened my mind to it some. | ||
| Rocketman |
Interesting differences on how we name stuff. Subaru = Scooby - after Scooby Doo Silly big tailpipe = drainpipe 450 WHP = bollocks Rocket | ||
| Rocketman |
I think snob is an absolute requirement to own an MV. They're not exactly cheap in the UK, but they are competitive price wise with Ducati high end models, any big twin Harley, the new Aprilia RSV4. I imagine this is different in the States and the extra cost of buying an MV, and the small market percentage MV sales achieve there get them stereotyped as big boys toys. Yes there are those here that buy them and hardly ever ride them simply because they can afford them, but those people are in a minority of MV owners here. I'm sure in the States your comment is more from stereotyping than fact. I'd be very surprised if it were otherwise. That would be a lot of wasted idle never ridden MV's wouldn't it. Rocket |
