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Toronto_s3
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just curious. Imagine a new motorcycle with Buell's name on the side, a different Rotax engine from the current 1125 but still a Rotax unit, fuel in frame, chain drive, the money for all of this comes from Bombardier but the the bikes are assembled in Mexico. Would any of you guys accept that? Because thats what Erik is talking to BRP/Can-Am about. Just wondering what you guys thought about that.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 10:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nope, not me
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 10:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

no
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Toronto_s3
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 10:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well why not? Does it have to made in the states for it still to be a Buell?
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Btw, how do you know what the specifics of the talks are?
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Teddagreek
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 10:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Elbuell?

Seriously though

If he does anything I imagine it will be on his terms...
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 10:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Canada would be a whole lot better than Mexico. I can't imagine manufacturing anything in that hell hole. Besides, with all the illegals running around this country why not keep the manufacturing where it is and hire a bunch of illegals? The current administration won't even bat an eye.
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Americanmadexb
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 10:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ummm, don't think i would!
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Guell
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 10:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

big ol' negative here. Dont want anything made in from there. If that happens, i would be one who wont follow buell.
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Toronto_s3
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 10:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Unfortunately BRP is moving all of their ATV and Spyder manufacturing to Mexico from Quebec. BRP wants to expand current vehicle manufacturing and get into two wheelers, hence the resurrection of the CAN-AM brand two years ago. BRP has been working on some dirt bike designs and various engine work with Rotax. Along comes Harley getting rid of Buell and MV and suddenly BRP has an easy way to start selling two wheelers. From what I have been told MV is the big carrot for BRP. Buell would be more of an afterthought. Mexican production brings labour cost down enough to make MV more competitive with the big four. My source is from BRP. Erik Buell is in Canada for the month of December. Announcements from BRP come in Feb 2010.
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Skinstains
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 10:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nope.
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4cammer
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buell made in Mexico? Please. Bad enough parts of my XB9R are made in China.

MV made in Mexico? Not a freaking chance. Not at the $$ and semi-exclusive status they try to maintain.

I'd rather buy a Kawasaki. At least those are still made in Japan....wait, not for much longer...
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If EB is in Canada shopping Buell, then he must have some inclination that HD will sell Buell. Otherwise, it would be an exercise in futility.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 10:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buell: American Motorcycles

Buell: Mexican Motorcycles..... does have a nice ring to it...... NOT
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Midknyte
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 10:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yo quero taco Buell?
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Jaimec
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 10:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You lost me at "chain drive."
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Toronto_s3
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 10:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How long has it been since Buell removed the 'American Motorcycles' tag from the side of the tanks?
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Teddagreek
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Donde esta el buell
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Froggy
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 10:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

From what I have seen in the auto industry, Mexican units are sub par from US and Canadian models. Even some vehicles like the Chevy Silverado, has plants in all 3 countries, and it isn't hard to spot the Mexican built ones on the dealer lots.
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Rainman
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 10:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'd consider it. I'd rather it be American or Canadian, but the only other bike I see that interests me right now is a FZ6R. There isn't much way to hook up with an American manufacturer that I can see.

I like the design of the Buells. I like the handling, the steering geometry, the way they seem to know what I want to do at the same time I think about it.

If I'm going to have to buy foreign anyway, I might as well keep it on my continent.
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Xbrad9r
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 10:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i don't think i will board this "speculation train", hopefully others will do the same and watch it pass by harmlessly
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Metalstorm
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 10:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Depends.

If Erik had full control to build the bike he wanted and of the quality he wanted then sure, why not.

Though no where as cool as 'Made in America', it would probably be the only bike under $40K that would appeal to me just like the current Buells are at the moment.

Now if a big corporation brings Erik on to build bikes and mandates certain shortcuts and sub quality parts to keep costs down and profits way up forget about it.

I can always get that at HD.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 11:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Brad, dont overlook your previous thoughts

"It was built in America
Built by American workers
the money stays in America "
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Cowboy
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 11:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hell why not we have a prez made in Kenya
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Ezblast
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 11:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'd buy it, after the HD fiasco, my faith in American companies is pretty low any way.
EZ
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Rocketsprink
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 11:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hell why not we have a prez made in Kenya

Always gotta interject your right wing bullshit into everything don't ya.

Start your own topic
"how to be a redundant, boring, nut right wing tool"
You'd post there the most.



I, myself, would have to pass on the foreign built bike.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 11:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'd rather not. Given the fact that for me to buy a sport bike now it's going to be made in Japan, Korea, China, England, Italy, Germany, etc.

So since I'm not going to get ANY sportbike choices made in the US, I'll take a Buell made where ever it is made.


I would prefer an "American" sport bike actually be at least assembled in America.
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Xl1200r
Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 12:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My source is from BRP.

Sounds to me like you need a new source, but I've been wrong before.

You lost me at "chain drive."

El ditto-o.

Take an 1125R, remove the Buell-specific powerplant and slap in some off-the-shef unit and use a chain drive, and all you're paying for is a gas tank and a front brake.

I'd rather buy Italian, English or even Japanese than Mexican.
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Greg_e
Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 12:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Technically it would still be made in America, North America that is.
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Madduck
Posted on Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 12:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I hate to say this but I don't think I would buy one if it was made in Canada either. This economy is so bad we need to find as much stuff local as possible. I look first in my town, then my county, state then country. Next I just do without.
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