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Buell2001b
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

trust me, I was thinking of getting a fisher. but when i found out about their korean engine and british owner. i was like no way. I stuck with Buell and glad I did. I could have not bought better bikes. the same ficher with the plastics of their engine manufcturer sell for 3K.
I respect they are trying to get a company going. I live in America I buy American
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Gun_for_hire
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 05:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

" The decision to drop Buell comes only a month after a Buell 1125R bike beat Honda, Yamaha and Suzuki motorcycles to win the coveted American Motorcycle Association's sport bike championship Sept. 8 in New Jersey.

It was the first pro championship for an American motorcycle manufacturer since 1986 and the first for Buell."

NUff said..... If you have to go out...go out on top.

BUELL: A wonderful company and a wonderful bike....but it was tied to a parent that never understood it.
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Tricklidz
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 05:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.buell.com/en_us/
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Vpi_sti
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 05:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Is there any chance values will go up because of this?
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Pjd2ss
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 05:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I occasionally check the Buell website to half expecting to see a new product offering (a sport tourer or Uly-type based on the 1125R). Seeing this today was like a kick in the gut.

With the rise of nanny state socialism and our deteriorating financial situation which now seems to being engineered by our gov't, we need more people like Erik Buell if we have any hope of overcoming the debt the federal government is racking up. We need people who believe in private enterprise and have the ability to act on it.

This is a truly sad day.
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Veebuell10
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 07:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Harley has completely lost its mind! I can't believe they are cutting the cord! I think Erik should go it alone...anyone else? Anyone...Bueller...Bueller? This sucks.
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Tboltjoe
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 07:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Deja Vo all over again!!! I was an avid Norton rider in the 1970's when they went under in 1976. Thirty three years later the club is bigger than ever, parts are available and we still ride them. The new bikes that were left on the floor went pretty cheap and are very desirable bikes now.
At least HD is going to keep the service and parts going. I'm sure we'll see Erik's influence in the new Harley"s. It's not the end of the world, but I'll miss seeing new bikes.
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Rhinely
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 07:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'll continue to ride my fabulous XB12SS, and at night park her next to my BSA 650 Lightning. They are both still very much alive.......
God Bless Eric and his former employees. Could Harley be next???
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Unibear12r
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 07:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Looks like my future cruisers will be Victorys. I was a fan of Harley but no more. Harley has lost THEIR future unless they start making Buells or something very similar under their own name.
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Greg_e
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 07:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Was in the dealer today... They have marked the brand new 08 1125R that they have down to $5000.00, I didn't ask about the 3 XB12R or the other bikes they have in stock. 2 weeks ago I spent $3000 for my 03 XB9R and I would cry if I could have gone another $1000 for a brand new 12R.
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98s3sns
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 07:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wow ???? What a surprise

I owned a 98 S3 for five years and what a great adventure it was with the Buell brand and people. Sad day indeed, Had the opportunity to go to a Buell Homecoming and toured the factory meet some great people and now saddened to see a family torn apart.

Nothing's sacred anymore its all about business.

That Buell got me into the Harley Dealership and introduced me to the V-Rod. Hope the Mothership doesn't want to let go of another sibling.
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98s3sns
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 08:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Was in the dealer today... They have marked the brand new 08 1125R that they have down to $5000.00, I didn't ask about the 3 XB12R or the other bikes they have in stock. 2 weeks ago I spent $3000 for my 03 XB9R and I would cry if I could have gone another $1000 for a brand new 12R".


Thats not good for all that invested hard earned cash for a Buell, Previous to this mornings statement of course. Now your cash will buy alot for very little in the Buell world.
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Greg_e
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 08:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The only thing I can think of is that I have an 03 which was the first model year for the new frame. Well I'm going to ride it and try to enjoy it, but I had been thinking that is a couple years a nice Uly with hard luggage might have been in order. Guess if I want one it will have to be used when I'm ready.
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Ebutch
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 08:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thank You Erik!!!!! For Great MotorCycles!!!!!

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Carbonsteel
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 08:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Harley has done a lot to piss me off lately, this is just one item in a real long list. A real damn significant item.
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Randymoser
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 08:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Food for thought: The more folks that respond in this forum - THE Buell forum -- after hearing this news, the better. In the future, reporters and marketers will look at what's said here.

Who wants to organize an e-blitz on HD HQ offices in support of the brand? Is there an appropriate response to this? Should it be limited to Buell guys? I've seen angry HD posts on all my 'regular sites' today...

Randy
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98s3sns
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 08:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Erik Buell is and was certainly one of the most down to earth understandable creative genius that Iv e had the pleasure to meet!

Feeling part of something for a time, i am grateful to have found the Buell family!!!
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Daveswan
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 09:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Part of the HD business model is focused on this nostalgia from the 50s. Since AMF really f*d the name they have come around to make the sportster and cruiser good again. But they're essentially becoming McClassic and that's not appealing to the people now who are the same people in the 50s who rode the sportster. The difference with technology and advancement or sports, auto, aircraft etc. is much greater than 50 years ago.
How about the WWI barn stormers and the photos of those young guys driving motorize bicycles. Those are the same people we have now in a different era who have cell phones and computers and have seen people go to the moon. They don't want to drive fr*gging black bicycles with leather helmets!
HD is a dinosaur company frozen in time. They aren't going to bring Buell innovation to HD... with what? They'll bring some of the employees back to forge chrome skulls or something until they get hired at Ducati.
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Fischer1
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sorry, Buell2001b, but I have to call you on this post. I'm pretty sure I'm not British. (why would you say that if you didn't know it to be true?) And what do you have against Brits?

The Fischer MRX does, in fact, contain a DOHC liquid-cooled engine that was engineered in Japan and built in S. Korea, and we take as much pride in our products as anybody, I guarantee.

Having a ton of respect for Erik, and having had a very pleasant conversation with him recently, I understand how disappointing this is. But, as Erik said to me, this is a tough business, in a very tough time.
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Greg_e
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 09:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So did you get my message from your contact form? And how did you get here, from a google for your name?

Just curious because I never mentioned coming to this forum, only that it might be interesting if you could license the tech. from Harley and maybe roll out the Buell design with an alternate engine.
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Fischer1
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 10:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Not sure, just came across it and the very first thing I saw was a guy saying the Fischer MRX is made by a British guy, so I had to register and set the record straight.
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Veebuell10
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 10:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would be happy if everyone on here did petition HD on this issue. I think they are making a HUGE mistake and are truly "stuck in the past". We aren't going to see this kind of visionary style come out in a motorcycle for a while now I think. Erik pushed against the convention, and it is sad to say that the almighty dollar won out. It's not going to be too long before we don't manufacture anything in the U.S. anymore. Everything will be subcontracted and watered down for economics.
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Cms1172
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 10:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was in about tears when I heard about the dismantling of the Buell name. Got an email today that the local dealer was cutting all merchandise by 50%. I was already in negotiations for an 1125CR, they dropped the price even more. Not that I don't love the XB12Ss that I have, but i liked the idea of more power, and the handling. The Buell I know has saved my life, the handling helped me avoid many situations that I know I would have been splattered on anything else.
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Buell2001b
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 11:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

sorry Fischer, not a good day.
all buell guys are very pissed. Erick and all his employes do not deserve the treatment that HD has given them.
I always have pulled for anything American.
Your bikes are not bad, still an asian bike.
how the heck can we prove to the world we have great engineers when we get everything from abroad.
if the germans and italians can do it why can't we!
I wish you success, but Buellers are like Ducatistas. we are loyal to our brand.
I will never buy another bike again.
I will maintain my XB9R and 1125R aslong as I can.
I like brits by the way.
I feel like a part of me has died.
I am surprised how many jap riders now talk about how good Buell was!!!
its a little to late
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Yui
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 11:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I saw the vid and I felt like Willie G and the rest of HD all kicked me in the nuts, one after another. What do they expect me to carve corners with now? I want to support the economy with an American made bike, but they're basically forcing me to buy Ducati if I want a V-Twin sport bike.

Nothing they have is going to come close, including the XR1200. I really hope Harley doesn't think we're going to be happy with just that one little table scrap. And if they try to use MV Agusta to draw me back, they can think again.

What the hell happened to them? In the good ol' days, Harley was all about bucking trends and giving people a new social direction. Buell is more than a motorcycle. It's about shunning the standards, doing things that haven't been done just to prove that they work better, showing up the competition's best attempts, and it's a way of life!

There's gotta be a way to keep Buell alive and going, right? Tell me this isn't the end!

I'll ride my '07 SS until one or both of us dies and be proud that I could be part of the legend.
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Mog
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 11:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Josh, the sales rep at the HD/Buell dealership, from whence most of my Buells were bought, called and gave me the bad news.

I cheered him up and told him that I and Erik have had a great ride!

Remember Shelby and the Cobra, I said to Josh.

The five Buells including the XBRR will, if kept well, bing an incredible price in the not so distant future. Problem is, when I am eighty-five, just twenty years from now, I will still be doing trackdays on them.

Our kids will have to pry me off! They'll have to wait 'til I die before they can sell them.

If you can buy one, DAMN IT, buy it at the fire sale! Ride it, keep it clean, keep it long, enjoy the passion and sell it down the road for a pretty penny.

I am most fortunate to be a part of the Buell group. Thanks for the info, dialogue and look forward to more Buelling.
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Alsaleen
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 11:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am organizing a ride from Ukes HD in kenosha wi to the buell plant in east troy to show support for Buell we will then leave for an HD plant or the museum in milwaukee to show them that they made a mistake. there are riders going from other forums and a few local ones pm me if you are interested. no dates are set yet but if you let me know in the next 2 days you can have some input. We are looking at within the next 2 to 3 weeks more than likly in 2 weeks though.
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Jonnyblaster
Posted on Friday, October 16, 2009 - 12:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

...

Erik, we all know you check in here regularly.

I want to extend my deepest condolences to you.

Your creation, brought to life from your imagination, formed by your skilled hands in a barn, raced to perfection....

Everything about every heretofore produced Buell, you are responsible.

Your passion has been unmistakable for a very long time now.

It is for your passion that I would like to make one request of you. Share nothing with those who would snuff your light. If you cannot take credit for your work, retire; let the world ask, "Who is Erik Buell?"
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Unsettledparadox
Posted on Friday, October 16, 2009 - 12:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ive been a fan of buell since 2001 when i saw my first m2. since then ive gotten really into buells and stood behind the pride and enthusiasm for the rider. i myself have an m2 and love it to death.

to see buell come so far in a really short amount of time is surprising. even more so, we all know the sport bike market is a cut throat market. it seems we cant go more then 2 years without a completely redesigned bike being debuted by any manufacturer.

so to see buell come so far with so many accolades, the '09 AMA for example, and to see the company shut down im a little frustrated to say the least. erik buell is a true visionary and to see him produce his lifes dream as such an awesome machine and have it be so pure and so wicked to the core and to have it taken from him as quickly as it was born is just sad.

im sorry if i cant collect my thoughts thoroughly. im still very upset about all of this. i demand further explanation from HD. i love HD and always have but im severly bitter by this experience.

please harley...at the very least, allow others to pick buell up and continue the dream. dont be like a selfish child and hog the remains. if you dont want to continue buell then you shouldnt be forced to. i can respect that but please, let the dream continue...thats all i ask
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Thepod
Posted on Friday, October 16, 2009 - 12:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Truly a sad day. The economy has gotten to everyone. Buell will rise from the ashes better and stronger, I know it.
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