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Dynasport
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 01:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You patient folks have put up with me for the past three years as I have dreamed of buying a Buell, but have yet to pull the trigger for several reasons, all financial.

Anyway, with today's sad news I sit in shock and wonder what to do. The Ulysses is still a very attractive motorcycle to me. With the 2010 version they seem to have fixed some of the major issues that gave me pause. Better heat management and new wheel bearings, primarily. The muffler still rusts like a junkyard Pacer, but that seems relatively easy to fix. So, the 2010s are really attractive to me and I have been hoping to see one at a dealership and I was planning on going to Biketoberfest to test ride one. I am guessing that won't happen now.

I know Buell says the warranties will be honored and parts will be available for several years (I have heard 10 and 7). But...dealerships in general weren't that supportive to begin with. I can't see that improving and my guess is that it will get significantly worse. No new Buell techs are likely to be trained, so good luck if yours moves on. I can envision the wait for parts to be significant. Oh, and the great customer support that Buell has been providing lately like ECM updates to fix problems, well I surely hope they have fixed them all because I can't see HD putting any effort into taking care of issues the way Buell did.

So, with all these concerns I am at a loss what to do. What do you guys think about buying a Buell right now? Really, honestly think, not blinded by the love you feel for Buell and the hurt and anger you are experiencing.

Thanks
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Slowride
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 01:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just called my local HD Sleeze bucket and found out they had a 2007 xb12r for 3995, yes it is a high miles bike (35k)oooh I am scared, LOL.

I am heading out after work to go test ride and hopefully buy.

The reason, I have been on the fence about buying another as well and with this most recent news, I can't think of another bike I have ever been this passionate about. If you have owned Harley's, Triumphs, Ducs or Dual Sports, you know the work that goes into keeping those bikes running outside of the factory support. The aftermarket is still strong for almost all brands and the forums are there to assist us as needed. I wrench on all of my bikes, so the dealers are of no concern to me.

I say snatch them up now!

(Message edited by slowride on October 15, 2009)
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Chadhargis
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 01:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'd say it's a great time to buy.

People are scared, and I venture to guess we'll see fire sales on Buell's even more so than we've already seen.

I also have faith that Erik and company will find a way to continue the brand.

When they do, you'll have a great bike, for a great price, and a new improved company to support it.

It's a gamble, but it's worth taking. Plus, you have the support of all the great BadWebbers. We're not going out of business. : )
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Not_purple_s2
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 01:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had daydreams of a white 1125CR but I've yet to see any 2010 models at my local dealer.
I'll get an 1125 model to add to the stable before too long... I'll just have to buy used.
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Zane
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 02:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm still planning on getting a XB12XT when I can afford one. I had hoped to buy new but may have to settle for a lightly used one. That's ok. It'll still be a better bike than anything on the HD show room floor.
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P_squared
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 02:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you've got access to a good dealer, I say buy, especially while everyone else is in a panic & prices plummet.

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/406 2/503758.html?1255632465

Worst case, you get a bike to ride for 5-7 yrs. that a dealer can & will support. After that, either Buell is reborn, or you have a collector's bike on your hands.
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Pammy
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I say buy it and enjoy it. You can own a shovel head, iron head, etc... parts still available and people still work on them. Life is short(but it's wide)...do exactly what you want...don't delay!
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Cochise
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 03:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

BUY IT!!!!

I called my local dealership and they are dropping prices like hammers.
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Crackhead
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 03:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

dam it. the deal with the wife is that i can buy a new motorcycle when i get my GS-11. Which should be Jan 2012.
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Scotty_j
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 03:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

...and the vultures circle.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 03:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The bikes are worth just as much now as they were yesterday.

They are still amazing pieces of engineering, and still work incredibly well.

As noted, HD still supports bikes from the 20s, 30s...all the way up to the present day. Don't be afraid of keeping it on the road.

There are dealers who will continue to stand behind the brand.

This COULD be the best thing to happen to the brand yet. Time will tell. But if you want a Buell....go get the damned thing. Ride it and love it, like over 250,000 others have done.
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Crackhead
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 03:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"As noted, HD still supports bikes from the 20s, 30s...all the way up to the present day."

because some of the parts haven't changed since then
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 03:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We'd love to be your Buell dealer!

Give me a shout!
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Oddball
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Emailed 3 dealers and just talked to one salesman. Hopefully i can stretch my dollars far enough for a couple bikes or more.
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Pammy
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 03:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"As noted, HD still supports bikes from the 20s, 30s...all the way up to the present day."

because some of the parts haven't changed since then


I just got parts for a 1983 Honda. Now THAT'S a tall order. I don't foresee the Buells being any more difficult to get parts for than they are right now, for a long, long, time.
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Brumbear
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 03:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bergan Harley Davidson is selling 1 1125R 2 1125cr cheap as hell if I had the coin I would buy em I offered 5 K and they hesitated before they said no
also get this they are getting BMW MC in a harley dealer OMG they have become YUPPIE DAVIDSON I freekin quit never again will I buy an HD product but I will be fair and tell you Adam Shein is selling them at bergan cheap cheap cheap btw the 1125 R has 1K miles on it but is being sold as new meaning you get a full warrentee on it whatever that means
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Balloyd66
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 05:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a quote of $9500 on a new '09 Uly XT with just over 1000 miles. Factory warranty started in july '09. Never titled; someone at the dealer has been riding it. Good Buy? Opinions?

(Message edited by balloyd66 on October 15, 2009)
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Doughnut
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 05:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What bike?
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Balloyd66
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 05:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

sorry, all. uly xt.
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Americanmadexb
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 06:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yes thats a good deal i think
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Doughnut
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 06:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sorry to post a question during such troubled times. This whole issue has made me want to get back onto a Buell more then ever. What was the first year of the blackout treatment for the SS?
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Doughnut
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 06:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If that is out the door I think that is a wonderful deal.
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Pkforbes87
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 07:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've been quoted $7900 OTD for a brand new 09 XT.
$6900 for brand new 09 X's
$4995 for an 06 X

Tomorrow's agenda includes a trip to the bank and the nearest Buell dealer 90 miles away.

(Message edited by pkforbes87 on October 15, 2009)
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 07:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Harley says:

Authorized Buell Service Providers will provide warranty, service and repair work. And Harley-Davidson expects to be providing replacement parts and service for as many years as required market by market. Of course we will honor all of our warranties.

What a load of crap.

There aren't any Buell Service Providers that I know of.

When dealers can't sell bikes, having a service department for them makes no sense at all.

I have never liked HD very much. Now I despise them.
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Doughnut
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 07:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is like my last relationship. All of a sudden I find out it isn't working and was never given a hint that it was over. I spoke with a sales guy ay Hal's just moments ago and he seemed to be suprised as well. Said they were getting a lot of calls regarding $3000 - $5000 incentives and such. Said it was NOT true. though he was talking about $9000 + tax and title on a 09 ss. He said this is a big shock to a lot of the "lower" levels as well. I asked him if this was some sort of PR stunt and he seem honest when he said he did not think so.

Just sharing.
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Chellem
Posted on Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 09:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When dealers can't sell bikes, having a service department for them makes no sense at all.

Actually, we as a dealer (and as usual, I can only speak for MY dealership) already have trained techs, all the special tools we need, a great deal of the parts (which H-D has pledged to continue to make available to us) and the infrastructure to continue to service Buells.

It doesn't make any sense NOT to.

Even if we can't sell the bikes, which we can for the foreseeable future anyway while the finish up production and we sell out our current inventory, it wouldn't make any sense to shove away current customers, esp. when we already have what we need to help them.

Cost to stock a Buell part is the same as the cost to stock a comparable Harley part.

So I don't know why a dealer who already has the investment down wouldn't continue to welcome customers to their stores.

Only thing I haven't really heard is what kind of stock they have for their gear and clothing. We probably won't be stocking that for much longer, whether we want to or not. So that is pretty much get-it-while-we-have-it.

->ChelleM
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