| Author | Message | ||
     Crackhead |
A fist grader would be sent to a disciplinary school for bringing his own utensils to school. Yes it is a pocket knife but how is it any different from the silverware in the cafeteria? http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091013/ap_on_re_us/us _zero_tolerance_boy_3 | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Saw that. Zero tolerance appears to go hand in hand with zero intellect. | ||
| Drkside79 |
For once me and Fatty are on the same page that is absolute stupidity.  | ||
| Not_purple_s2 |
Don't worry they'll get rid of that kid's violent tendencies.  "Oh yes, they’ll sell liberty for a quieter life." | ||
| Fast1075 |
That still isn't as bad as what happened locally a while back...a girl got suspended from school for the remainder of the year beacuse she gave another girl an ASPIRIN!!! On the knife thing....back in the day...we all carried pocket knives...getting your knife from Pop was a rite of passage...nobody though anything of it (possession) but then again nobody ever used them as weapons either... | ||
| Gnx423 |
Heh, i remember always having a swiss army knife on me. Me and my best friend thought we were Macgyver when we were kids. I cant imagine what the next 10-20 years is going to bring if things are this out of control now. Mike | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
I cant imagine what the next 10-20 years is going to bring  | ||
| Bluzm2 |
We've had incidents like that here as well. A HS senior was EXPELLED because he had a box cutter in his car. He works at a grocery store as a stocker... He didn't even realize it was in the car (sitting in his console). He was an honors student to boot. The school boards have totally sucked down at the liberal trough of stupidity. One of the main tannants of liberalism is the complete abducation of responsibility. If it's "codified" they don't have to make a decision. They fall back on the old "It's in the rules so we have to follow them .... no exceptions...". Common sense and reasonable judgment is not in their lexicon. | ||
| Chadhargis |
When I was in school, it wasn't a big deal to carry a knife. I can remember wearing my scout uniform to school on meeting days and had my scout knife on my belt. When I got to high school, it was very common for guys to go hunting early in the morning before school started and come to school with their rifles in the gun racks of their trucks. Nothing was thought of it. | ||
| Oldog |
When I got to high school, it was very common for guys to go hunting early in the morning before school started and come to school with their rifles in the gun racks of their trucks. Nothing was thought of it. Grew up in the south? perhaps in a semi rural setting? they hassel a cubscout but miss a kliebold teh school is wasting time and money. when I was young, the teacher just took what ever was at issue and at her discretion returned it after school. Of course we were paddled, made to stand in the corner, and "poped on the hand" for being outa line. in HS guns were just locked up out of sight.} it was changing then, sad to see it get that way. | ||
| Jramsey |
Times have sure changed since I was a kid. I was raised in the D.C. metro area and all the area High Schools had a indoor rifle range,rifle club and a varsity shooting team. | ||
| Thespive |
Here is another disgusting example of how our "societal leaders" lack any common sense. I am truly worried if these are the decisions our educator are making. And yes, I am an Eagle Scout. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,565520,00.html --Sean | ||
| Crackhead |
sean, you link didn't work. I am a Eagle Scout too. I remember guys coming to school smelling like deer urine and a large part of the student population missing on the opening day of deer season. | ||
| Timberwolf211 |
This is worth watching. Seems like we should take a step back and listen. Wonder if we could play this for the senate. http://nationaljuggernaut.blogspot.com/2009/09/thi s-cartoon-seemed-far-fetched-in-1948.html | ||
| Iamike |
I knew the democrat party was completely lost when they booed the Boy Scouts that were doing the opening flag ceremony at the national convention a few times back. Supposedly some were even spit on. Of course the national snews media never made a mention of it. Had the hear it on that rougue channel Fox. The parent's of the boy should have told him to make sure the swiss army knife stayed home. But the school still over-reacted | ||
| Riding_tall |
Timberwolf211 .. Nice link. It's an odd world. Some schools a gun is an issue but a 6 year old boy scout with his camping tool. That's crazy. Seems Common sense, is well, is not so common. from about age 6 until .. well post 911 airport security, I always had some type of pocket-knife, leatherman, gerber-tool or something one me. I lost two to airport security and stopped keeping them with me. One was a key-chain leather-man. As a weapon .. useless. As a tool, very handy. | ||
| Thespive |
Sorry, here is the link I tried to post earlier... http://tinyurl.com/yzr7mef BadWeB messes up the link, so I did a Tiny URL, hope it works. You guys need to read what an outrageous story this is. --Sean (Message edited by thespive on October 13, 2009) | ||
| Prof_stack |
Incredible stories like this help the private schools' enrollment. It is interesting to note that there is more freedom of thought and action at most Catholic schools than at public schools. Didn't use to be that way. | ||
| Crackhead |
I like how he pointed out that the base ball bat is a deadly weapon. But it is exactly the same thing as a pocket knife. They are both weapons of opportunity. I would put a sword and a gun in the same category, but not a pocket knife. | ||
| Xl1200r |
Sorry, here is the link I tried to post earlier... Lansingburgh - literally two towns up from me and I never heard of this. I'm not going to make any accusations as I only know "characteristics" of the kid involved, but it's not unfathomable to suggest that it was intended to squash a kid based on his skin color and level of success in that area. The whole thing is just stupid. I used to carry car parts in my car, and I'd bet I could do a lot more damage to someone with a crank out of a SBC than I could with a 2" knife. | ||
| Not_purple_s2 |
Riding_tall, I would probably have stupidly pointed out that I could do more damage stabbing someone with the keys than the key-chain leatherman... then I would have lost my keys.  | ||
| Bandm |
Boy suspended over utensil gets reprieve http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/33289924/ns/today-to day_people/?gt1=43001 | ||
| Firebolt32 |
On the knife thing....back in the day...we all carried pocket knives... +1 Things have changed drastically over the years. I graduated in '99 and a ton has changed since then. America is pussifying these kids. Fast...a similar situation occured at my sister's high school. The difference was it was a tampon and they claim those items shouldn't be carried by girls at school. Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't teenage girls have periods? I'd hate to be a janitor at that school... | ||
| Fast1075 |
Firebolt...I guess they were concerned that someone could use the string like a handle and beat someone senseless with it.. The older I get...the more I'm amazed by the complete lack of common sense in this world today. Carl Sagan one said....the most common element in the universe is "Stupidity". | ||
| Drkside79 |
#1 no knife should be in school. #2 the initial punishment is absolutely ridicules. | ||
| Chadhargis |
The thing is, the issue isn't really about weapons. Heck, a pencil could be used to stab someone. The issue is the lack of behavior control options available to teachers. They can't paddle little kids, they pretty much can't do anything but let them run wild. So if a kid has a butter knife, a baseball bat, a scout knife, a pencil, a heavy backpack, WHATEVER....and he or she gets mad enough, they can hurt someone. We're raising a society of kids that believe they are entitled to everything. I remember when I was in 6th grade, there was a kid who didn't ever dress for PE. He failed the first grade period. His mother came to the school, threw a fit, and said that PE didn't teach anything and if her son didn't want to participate he didn't have to. He was excused from PE. That's crap. I say fail the kid, and tell the parent if they want to send him to a school that doesn't have PE they can. But as long as it's part of the curriculum, he will attend class, dress out, and participate as long as he was able to do so. Doesn't matter what he "wants". Hell, I didn't want to come to work today, but such is life. Get over it. | ||
| Tpoppa |
I thought it was common knowledge that Zero Tolerance Policies were an indicator of a lack of administrative ability. | ||
| Drkside79 |
This is how this should have went. Kid brings knife to school gets caught, goes to office, has knife taken away, has parents called, gets lectured goes back to class. Later mom gets off work comes to claim knife from office and dumb ass kid from class. Mom should at this point apologize and say this WILL NOT happen again. Mom takes kid home sends to room to do homework. when dad gets home mom and dad tell kid that this is not appropriate then proceed top paddle his young ass. Followed up by a this hurts me more than you line and an if you ever do it again GOD HELP U!!! Problem solved no suspension nec. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
Went to Jr High when Rambo came out. I dont know how many people showed up for Halloween dressed as him, with real knives. Hell they were on every kids Christmas list that year. Never mind the kid that showed up as the Grim Reaper with a real steel Scythe. At Highschool every truck in the lot had a rifle rack, half of them were full. WE NEVER had a school shooting. Geometry class was interesting because the teacher made the math applicable to ballistic trajectories. What has this f'n country come to. I swear I find a new reason to be dismayed every day. | ||
| Chadhargis |
City, sounds like you and I went to similar high schools. When I was in school, no one ever thought of shooting anyone. There was a place just off campus where people would go to fight. If someone challenged you, and you didn't show up, it was worse than getting your ass kicked. If you happened to be on the right side of the argument and some big galoot was bullying you, then the bully would often find himself in a hostile environment as the weaker guy would win the crowd. All the times I showed up expecting to see a fight, there would be some cussing and yelling, maybe some pushing....then one or two punches typically resulting in a wrestling match which left both guys talking trash. 9 times out of 10, nobody "won" and the two guys shook hands and walked away. |
