| Author | Message | ||
     Mr_grumpy |
False humility is nauseating. Jeez give the guy a break for f***s sake. He never asked for the award, you shout from the rooftops that he doesn't deserve it, & when he agrees with you, you say he's false. He's your president for the next 3 & a bit years, you'd better start to pace yourself in your hatred, or you'll be all eaten up long before he's gone. Even Blake said "good on him" for that, though I imagine it pained him to do so. You're never going to be satisfied with anything the man does or says, that's totally evident, so chill out a bit & let it go or you'll be in the coronary unit soon. End of the day, it makes not a jot of difference to any of us whether or not he gets an award he didn't ask for, from a bunch of disconnected, out of touch, over-privileged, cretins . | ||
| Ferris_von_bueller |
I'll trade you Presidents, Grumpy | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
No ta, Sarko's alright for me. I'd swap you Gordon Brown the British Prime Minister for him though. Has anybody told Obama to keep moving when he's in the trophy room yet. With those ears, if he stands still someone will mistake him for a prize cup & polish his head! | ||
| Roadcouch98 |
The problem that "Conservative Americans" have on this board (among many Boards) is that there are many of us that can see the road this Country is being led down, and it bothers those with eyes open that the foundation this Country was founded on is being quietly phased out. Our Personal Freedoms and Government Representation are being threatened and replaced with the Nanny State. It is being underreported by the Media and Mouths closed by those Elected into Office. Barrack Hussein Obama, our President of the United States of America (The single Greatest Country in History) did not start this,His Administration is just Steam Rolling Everything they touch at a much faster pace now than those before Him. The rationale of the Puppet Masters propping Him up is that We won't make it if We don't Act on Everything Immediately (without reading Anything). Great logic. I guess this Administration never heard of "Haste makes waste". Or "don't Panic" "don't do Anything Crazy" "Don't make Hasty judgments". "Don't Fly off of the Handle". I'm sure there are many more that B-HO's Administration would believe are Sacrelidge to the Present Spending habits. Americans don't like being pushed around, or being told what to do,or what is best for them. Bailouts, Cash for Clunkers, Government run portioned Healthcare. I can see the Welfare States of America as the beginning, with the end being far worse than I would like to Imagine. No one can deny the turning of the Greatest Nation of the Industry is now dissolved with Outsourcing and the loss of jobs associated with it. What are people to do when not only their own jobs, but most jobs they would have never have considered doing are also gone to Canada and Mexico 20 yrs ago, and lately India and China. What is BHO doing? Handing out "Welfare Checks" for all kinds of crazy shit. Will no one realize that this money has to be paid back? How will it be paid back? How can it Possibly be paid back when so many jobs that supported this Nation are gone? These Bills have to be paid back, and China right now holds some if not all of the largest notes of Our Government's great ideas. Let the Deniers of the Right.......... begiiiiiiiiiin now! | ||
| Rocketsprink |
were did/is all the money coming from to pay for the 2 wars started by Cheney errr, I mean Bush? Why no concern of where that money comes from? For a party that considers itself seated at the right hand of God,it seems weird that you all support the complete opposite of what Jesus taught...to help others. Very strange that you hide behind God, yet do the total opposite of His teachings. You all better hope Jesus doesn't come back anytime soon to judge the living and the dead. You'd have a lot of explaining to do. See ya. | ||
| Blake |
"Even Blake said "good on him" for that, though I imagine it pained him to do so." Not at all. I'll always keep hope alive that our Prez will see truth and change his radical socialist agenda. I think if he could see straight enough to ditch the corrupt people that he has surrounding him and get in their place a solid group of wise folks, he'd do okay. Glen Beck is doing a good job of exposing the worst of the problem folk. At some point, the Prez will hopefully take note and re-evaluate his plans. As is, his place in history as written by honest thoughtful folk isn't looking too bright. I just hope he sees fit to put an end to the strategy of crisis generation (spending money we don't have at an unprecedented rate in the midst of a severe economic downturn). If he doesn't, I'm afraid he'll have a bloody civil war on his hands. It's possible that I won't object to it either. | ||
| Roadcouch98 |
So by Your thoughts, lets just keep the Ball rolling till it goes off the cliff? Have You read the News lately? George W Bush is no longer President of the United States of America. (Message edited by roadcouch98 on October 10, 2009) | ||
| Roadcouch98 |
...and By Your rationale of GWB's spending/handling of the Economy, isn't B-Ho just following in the formers footsteps? That's REAL Change for Ya'. | ||
| Roadcouch98 |
No, on second thought. He's not followed in the same Footsteps, but blazed a New Trail of His Own, for which He will Be Forever Remembered. He has not created one single job outside of Temporary Construction/road building/ditch digging/& Czar Creation. But He has Spent more Money than the Previously mentioned. And the War in Iraq/Afghanistan Blah/Blah/Blah is BS.I have nothing but the Greatest Praise for Our Military, and would ask You this. Do You Really believe these Soldiers would Voluntarily Put their lives on the line if they thought these Two Wars were Unimportant as You do? Also Did You not mention Jesus Yourself and taking care of thy Brother? The people of Iraq and of Afghanistan do not deserve the Benefit of life, cuz it costs too much? How much are they Worth to You, then? (Message edited by roadcouch98 on October 10, 2009) | ||
| Roadcouch98 |
Blind Followers is what I see. What do You see? | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
The reason many "conservative" folks were not happy with GWB and were even less enthusiastic about McCain was that BOTH had abandoned the conservative values we want to see in a President. Small government State's rights Strict constructionist view of the Constitution Fiscal conservativism For those who support Obama, if you don't like what GWB did with the deficit and financing the war on terror, why would you support a President who, in less than 9 months, has outspent GWB by a factor of 4? I DID NOT support the Medicare prescription drug program. I DID NOT support TARP I did support defending our nation against determined aggressors. | ||
| Roadcouch98 |
Rocket, The Opposite of Help would be Hurt, Yes? Who are We Hurting? Are You hurting? If not, Who do You speak of? America has the fattest Poor people in the World, so who exactly is being Hurt and by what means? (Message edited by roadcouch98 on October 10, 2009) | ||
| Edgydrifter |
"Americans don't like being pushed around, or being told what to do,or what is best for them." I disagree. Americans LOVE being told what to do and telling others and each other what to do... so long as the rules and commands conform to our individual morals and values. What happens if I try to grow some pot in my back yard? Or put up a little windmill for household power generation? Or try to go to the liquor store on a Sunday? Or get married (if I were gay)? Or put "loud" pipes on my bikes? In the town I live in, all those things are forbidden. To me, that sounds a lot like personal liberties denied because they don't fit in with somebody else's values. These laws stay on the books because the number of folks who agree with them plus the number of folks who are too apathetic to take a stand are sufficient to keep it that way. That doesn't make them right, and I don't much care if it's the feds, the state legislature or the city council enacting them. An attack on anyone's liberties is an attack on everyone's liberties, but most Americans simply don't care. Not that any of this has anything to do with the NPP, but since you raised the point I figured I'd respond here. | ||
| Roadcouch98 |
"Americans don't like being pushed around". Many Americans have become Complacent, letting Government take a little more and a little more power, and Government is realizing that it does not need to take a little, when they can take what they want using the Highest paid Lawyers in the Land to deem Everything that We do within the Realm of Governmental Authority. Laying down is not an Option I will live with. This is My Government and IT works for Me. I will let My representatives know of My displeasure of what I believe is wrong until I am heard and listened to objectively, not dismissed. They are trying not to listen, so as to say (no one has a problem with what I am doing, so everything is Fine), but more Citizens are speaking out and Politicians will have to listen to the Masses. The Tea Parties and Healthcare Forums have to stay alive to keep the attention of these Clowns. If We all speak together, We cannot be denied. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
We get the government we tolerate. two hundred and 40 years ago, there were men in taverns, running guns, brewing their own booze, and plotting to violently throw off the yoke of oppresion... fast forward; well we do have a new Michael Jackson moving coming out, who has time to plot a revolution? | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
Blake, my tongue was in my cheek when I posted that, I like to fun with you from time to time, I'm glad to see you know that too. | ||
| Murraebueller |
Maybe he got it for winning the election? The Euros love him because he's trying to make the US like Europe. If I wanted to live there, I'd move to Spain or Northern Italy. I love it here and the current crop of idiots in charge need to leave it alone. Teddy R was the last great pres we had. | ||
| Madduck |
Thread HiJack, Exciting news, The first clown in space has returned safely. Billionaire founder of Cirque de Soleil landed in Russia Sunday. So it was a very good week for news. The US has succesfully attacke the Moon, Obama has won the NObel Peace Prize. The first clown in Space has returned. Now that was a week with something completely different and yet the MSM refuses to celebrate such a momentus week. Dull and humdrum reign supreme yet again. | ||
| Court |
We beat the moon? Cool! Any championship shirts? MOON 0 ". . . the EPIC battle" Why . . . as long as the clown was going . . . didn't just send him with a sword and a hand grenade and let him duke it out . . . you know "mano y moono"? | ||
| Madduck |
What are the odds any of those events would take place?? Then consider the odds of them occuring in the same week. One of them paid his own way, one of them cost us nothing and I don't even want to think about what our "victory" over the moon people cost us. so we taxpayers are one for three. Big problem is if California finds out there is water on the moon. That aqueduct is going to be pricey. | ||
| 46champ |
Now that we've discovered water on the moon you need to read the book that foretells what will happen. The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress by Robert Heinlein. | ||
| Nik |
Big problem is if California finds out there is water on the moon. That aqueduct is going to be pricey. Not if there's moon smelts... | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
I love Heinlein's books, I have some of them that are totally dog-eared I've read them so many times. | ||
| Blake |
"Not if there's moon smelts..."  Yer killin' me! LOL! | ||
| Court |
Will moon liberals be called "Gray Peace"? | ||
| Aesquire |
"The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress" has a great explanation of cell theory for revolution, a must read for that alone. Why do some disagree with Barack Obama's seeming foreign policy? ( I say seeming, since he hasn't really told us why he is nicer to Russia than Israel, seemingly ) If you say those who disagree ( shortened to "we" for purposes of this post ) we are crazy or racist, you are not arguing, you are saying you have no counterpoint & and are crying like a spoiled child. Try facts, or respectful opinion, backed with reasoning, & perhaps we all may see the light. "We" may be wrong! The anointed one, the munificent, Barack Hussain Obama, Hmmm, Hmmm, Hmmmm,  may have a real cool secret plan for world peace that I either missed or fail to see. But I don't think so, and sometimes others can explain things better than I. So, I present the reason I am a hawk, but not a warmonger. ( it's a little long, but worth the effort & time IMHO ) http://www.pjtv.com/video/Afterburner_with_Bill_Wh ittle/Game_Theory_and_a_Losing_Strategy%3A_Obama%2 7s_Bad_Judgment_With_The_Prisoner%27s_Dilemma/2523 / | ||
| Doughnut |
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene.' | ||
| Sifo |
Obama fails to win Nobel prize in economics Commentary: Michael Moore, Timothy Geithner also passed over LONDON (MarketWatch) -- In a decision as shocking as Friday's surprise peace prize win, President Obama failed to win the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences Monday. While few observers think Obama has done anything for world peace in the nearly nine months he's been in office, the same clearly can't be said for economics. The president has worked tirelessly since even before his inauguration to wrest control of the U.S. economy from failed free markets, and the evil CEOs who profit from them, and to turn it over to wise, fair and benevolent bureaucrats. From his $787 billion stimulus package, to the cap-and-trade bill, to the seizures of General Motors and Chrysler, to the undead health-care "reform" act, Obama has dominated the U.S., and therefore the global, economy as few figures have in recent years. Yet the Nobel panel chose instead to award the prize to two obscure academics -- Elinor Ostrom and Oliver Williamson -- one noted for her work on managing collective resources, and the other for his work on transaction costs. See full story on the Nobel winners. Other surprise losers include celebrity noneconomist and filmmaker Michael Moore; U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner; and Larry Summers, head of the U.S. national economic council. It is unclear whether the president will now refuse his peace prize in protest against the obvious slight to his real achievements this year. -- Tom Bemis, assistant managing editor | ||
| Methed |
So tired of this type of argument: >>For a party that considers itself seated at the right hand of God,it seems weird that you all support the complete opposite of what Jesus taught...to help others. Seriously? Keep your brash psuedo-spiritual comments out of the political discussion if you're going to tell everyone how they should act based on a semi-convoluted view of what you think their belief and theology are, which in this case you seem to know nothing about. In the basis of thinking you demonstrated, you should be encouraging all Muslims to become as violent and vengeful to anyone who does not believe as you do, as the tenets of the Quran dictate. And yes, those are the requirements put forth repeatedly by Mohammed as recorded in the Quran. Additionally, if you want to paint Jesus as some kind of social reformer, then God was terribly mistaken in sending him for that purpose, when clearly we have a 'community activist' with a larger following and the ears of the world's media at his disposal. (Sorry, didn't mean that to be a big-ears pun, just kinda worked out.) Interestingly enough, Jesus stated clearly that his purpose was not to teach people how to 'help people' as the legalistic religious leaders of his day insisted he should--he had a bit higher purpose--but I'm guessing I've lost you already, given your prior statement. Sorry--done ranting. Please show some restraint and respect before stereotyping a group of people and lambasting their personal spirituality because you feel that you have a better understanding of what you feel they believe, even if it bugs that their actions don't match what your preconceived notions and bigoted assumptions. Thanks in advance. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
The hope for victory in the argument is to paint the "religious right" into a corner with their on beliefs. Saul Alinsky believed in this tactic. "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules. You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity." --Rules for Radicals (pp.127-134) |
