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Damnut
| Posted on Monday, October 05, 2009 - 09:35 pm: |
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ALBERTVILLE, Ala. - A woman has been charged with endangering the welfare of a child after she let her daughter ride in a cardboard box on top of their van, police said. Albertville Police spokesman Sgt. Jamie Smith said the 37-year-old Alabama woman was arrested Sunday after police received a call about a minivan on a state highway with a child riding on top, The Huntsville Times reported. Smith said the woman told police the box was too big to go inside the van, and that her daughter was inside the box to hold it down. Smith said the mother told officers it was safe because she had the box secured to the van with a clothes hanger. The 13-year-old daughter wasn't harmed and was turned over to a relative. A jail worker said the mother was out on bond Monday. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33184919/ns/us_news-we ird_news/ |
Americanmadexb
| Posted on Monday, October 05, 2009 - 09:37 pm: |
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Patches
| Posted on Monday, October 05, 2009 - 09:47 pm: |
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Can't fix stupid and I though I was all alone ? damb hillbellys http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIBdXg6L69g |
Americanmadexb
| Posted on Monday, October 05, 2009 - 09:56 pm: |
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i don't get it Patches? |
Patches
| Posted on Monday, October 05, 2009 - 10:22 pm: |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBqZs7oGPZQ maybe this will help? |
Patches
| Posted on Monday, October 05, 2009 - 10:29 pm: |
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(Message edited by patches on October 05, 2009) |
Americanmadexb
| Posted on Monday, October 05, 2009 - 10:44 pm: |
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i like David Allen Coe! i still don't get it what the hell its got to do with being stupid! Is is country you think is stupid? BTW, nice DimeBag Darrell Washburn Coe is rockin' |
Patches
| Posted on Monday, October 05, 2009 - 11:43 pm: |
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? |
Americanmadexb
| Posted on Monday, October 05, 2009 - 11:49 pm: |
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I'm pretty sure i'm not alone when i say.... WTF are you talking about? |
Patches
| Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 12:20 am: |
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"mother told officers it was safe because she had the box secured to the van with a clothes hanger." It's make my head heart I'm glad she OK As far as Dimebag Darel we lost an Artisan of Rock-n-Roll. |
Americanmadexb
| Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 12:42 am: |
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AHHH, now i gotcha Patches... man that was awesome you got THAT outta THAT!!! Dimebag was my favorite!! Here he is playing the same axe Coe is playing......
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Patches
| Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 12:55 am: |
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A-men |
Danger_dave
| Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 04:04 am: |
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Bet the kid had fun. |
Wolfridgerider
| Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 06:53 am: |
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Remember... back in the day... when ya could ride in the back of a pick up truck... My cousin and I would stand there looking over the roof of the truck eat'n bugs... "Those where the days"... in my best "All in the family" voice Box on a mini van.... sounds fun to me! She had it tied on with a hanger!! What more do ya need?? |
Mr_grumpy
| Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 07:11 am: |
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Yep, riding on the back step of the local bread delivery van, or getting a tow on your roller skates behind the coal truck. They'd put you in jail & your kids into care if you let them do that these days. Nostalgia's not what it used to be in my day. Now where did I leave that time machine... |
Lemonchili_x1
| Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 07:47 am: |
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You can still do that stuff here if nobody's watching |
Gentleman_jon
| Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 08:36 am: |
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Pretty hard to evaluate with out knowing a few more details of construction. The typical coat hanger is made of of steel. Tensile strength 36,000 lb in tension if I recall correctly. Pretty hard to break one of these by hand with out repeatedly putting it into plastic deformation leading to fatigue failure. I just threw out a couple of card board boxes that wouldn't fit in a mini van either. Used to ship a printer that weighed about 200 pounds, across country. Kid probably weighed less than that. Of course without knowing the construction details, it is hard to predict a failure modality for this rig, but as far as I can see the main problem the authorities had with the situation was this: The parent was exercising her freedom and the kid was having some fun. No structural failure was involved, and the kid was not hurt. That's a crime in Obama land, kiddies. Wonder what's next? Smoking out doors and motorcycle riding seem pretty dangerous to me. |
Cataract2
| Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 10:27 am: |
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No way..... |
Whatever
| Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 04:20 pm: |
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We used to play SUPERMAN in high school... driving around drinking budweiser... get on the top of the car on your belly and hold onto the two front window openings... get up to 45 MPH.. Man, have not thought of that in years... Oh, and my favorite D>A>Coe song... "Were You Born An A$$hole or Did You Work At it All Your Life?" (Message edited by Whatever on October 06, 2009) |
Ratyson
| Posted on Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 04:37 pm: |
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Of course without knowing the construction details, it is hard to predict a failure modality for this rig, ... I think it is pretty safe to say that the coat hanger would rip through the cardboard with a minimal force applied... Say, like a wind gust from an oncoming Semi truck. (Message edited by RATyson on October 06, 2009) |
Americanmadexb
| Posted on Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 02:22 am: |
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This story was on Fallen tonight.. He said this women was charged with being the most fun mom in the history of moms!! LOL |
Gentleman_jon
| Posted on Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 05:55 am: |
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I think it is pretty safe to say that the coat hanger would rip through the cardboard with a minimal force applied... Say, like a wind gust from an oncoming Semi truck. I think it would be pretty safe to say that you are wrong. Nothing untoward did in fact happen. Of course, it might have, but without knowing the construction details, it is hard to predict a failure modality for this rig, ... Or is that what I said in the first place? |
Court
| Posted on Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 07:17 am: |
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quote:We used to play SUPERMAN in high school... driving around drinking budweiser... get on the top of the car on your belly and hold onto the two front window openings... get up to 45 MPH..
Great memories . . . I tried to "wind surf" atop a Buick Vista Cruiser. I was fine until I decided to parachute. You never really appreciate how fast phone poles are passing until you pass one at 35mph in the air. Only broken bone I ever had and, through an odd set of circumstances, the cast on my leg saved my left leg when I was shot 20 days later. I would have been fine if I hadn't told my folks I twisted my ankle at work and the insurance folks called McDonalds . . . yes, I was a french fry trainee at the time . . . ahhhhhh . . . the lessons of youth. |
Pammy
| Posted on Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 09:21 am: |
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"That's a crime in Obama land, kiddies." Yeah...the law specifies that the child has to be properly restrained via seatbelt INSIDE the vehicle. It makes no such specification for the roof of the vehicle. I'm thinkin' .....DUCT TAPE! |
Court
| Posted on Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 09:41 am: |
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DUCT TAPE!. . . the ultimate baby sitter. |
Pammy
| Posted on Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 12:35 pm: |
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That's what I'm talkin' 'bout! |
Ceejay
| Posted on Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 02:59 pm: |
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As a joke, I duct taped my youngest son's baby seat to the back of my bike and went in and told the old lady that we were ready to go. Picked him up(he was 6 months old at the time) and began to put him in the seat-she was not amuzed... |
Ratyson
| Posted on Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 03:36 pm: |
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meh.. it's not worth the trouble. (Message edited by RATyson on October 07, 2009) |
Hmartin
| Posted on Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 06:03 pm: |
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This engineer thinks it is. "I think it would be pretty safe to say that you were wrong in this case. Nothing untoward did in fact happen." - fixed it for ya, since the original wording comes off as somewhat mean (and incorrect). "Tensile strength 36,000 psi (for ASTM A 36 wire) in tension..." - fixed it for ya, too, since the original wording shows a lack of understanding between lb. and psi. A D8 Caterpillar weighs around 36,000 lb., but you wouldn't lift one of those with a coat hanger. For 8 Gauge wire, that's 467 lb. If the wire was bent sharply back on itself, it would be even less due to a loss of ductility at the bend. It's not mentioned how the hanger was used, but straightened-out hangers are only 3 or 4 ft. long, hardly enough to tie the box down to the roof. A force resisting system is only as strong as its weakest link. You could attach the box to the car with 270 ksi prestress strand, but if it's attached to the box rather than tied over the box, then the tensile strength of the cardboard is the limiting factor. The only other thing that would hold the box down and keep it from either sliding around or blowing off the roof completely would be its own weight. The coefficient of friction between the box and the roof, providing resistance to lateral forces, is solely dependent upon the magnitude of the normal force, i.e. the weight of the box. Lighter weight is a disadvantage in that situation, not a benefit. As a kid, I rode with my neighbor in the back of his dad's truck - in a lawn chair. As an even younger kid, I used to sleep in the back window of the car on long trips. My sister, while sitting with her friends on the open tailgate of a truck, letting their legs dangle off the back, slid off into the roadway when the truck took off too suddenly. As crazy as we might think our parents and grandparents were for allowing stuff like that, I can't believe that even they would have put us in a box on the roof of a moving car, where we couldn't even hold on if we wanted to. |
Firebolt32
| Posted on Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 07:52 pm: |
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Some people should just be shot. Last week I was driving back from UCONN. I pulled into a gas station to fill up. I pulled up to the pump, look to my left and a car full of people are staring at me. I'm like ok? I turn my head to grab my arm brace, turn back to look at them and the trunk opens up. A kid about 15, maybe, crawls out of the trunk. I just shook my head in disbelieve.... |
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