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Ezblast
Posted on Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 11:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buell is going to have a quarter of its workforce laid off during the holiday, due to the economy - I understand. Is there a fund or something started to help them through the holidays - thats a really lousy time to collect 60% - if lucky - on unemployment. The maker's of our favorite bike could use some elves themselves it seems.
EZ
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Mindi
Posted on Thursday, September 17, 2009 - 12:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rick and I bought two 09 Buells this year to add to the fleet, does that count??
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Ezblast
Posted on Thursday, September 17, 2009 - 12:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I also, still this isn't about our good fortune.
EZ
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Eaton_corners
Posted on Thursday, September 17, 2009 - 01:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

After being out of work for almost a year, I am still making my Buell payment. Does that count?
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Geforce
Posted on Thursday, September 17, 2009 - 01:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wonder if we could do something for the Elves this year... any ideas?
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Buellerandy
Posted on Thursday, September 17, 2009 - 03:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

obviously cash donations would be a start, maybe an address to mail goodies to? Buell Hq?
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Ezblast
Posted on Thursday, September 17, 2009 - 10:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Really - that was exactly what I was thinking - I just don't know where I could send the money to. I know I couldn't enjoy a race victory knowing a 1/4 of my back up was laid off during the holidays. I'm sure some kind of plan must be in place, surely mr. 20yr/100yr plan guy has a plan in place for such simple adversity. Just where do we send the money?
EZ
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Ezblast
Posted on Friday, September 18, 2009 - 01:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is just sad. I guess Ruthless is the new Buell moto.
EZ
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Mizzou_buell
Posted on Friday, September 18, 2009 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I guess Ruthless is the new Buell moto.
EZ

You act as though Buell is enjoying doing this to their workers, I am sure they aren't happy about it. I am sure they have their reasons for it.}
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Whatever
Posted on Friday, September 18, 2009 - 02:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

After being out of work for almost a year, I am still making my Buell payment. Does that count?

Ditto here. Going on eleven months. I can't even get part time work here. Somehow have managed to keep paying my bills...
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Fast1075
Posted on Friday, September 18, 2009 - 03:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Elves are real good shots with bow and arrow...guess they are gonna have to go deer hunting...

The local Pixies that are out of work are doing fine...they are selling magic dust ; )

(Message edited by fast1075 on September 18, 2009)
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Methed
Posted on Friday, September 18, 2009 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Maybe they can find work un-cubing and selling 2010 Blasts?





Sorry, had to do it, for your sake EZ.
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Ezblast
Posted on Friday, September 18, 2009 - 07:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think that may not be a productive use of their abilities. Instead perhaps that 600cc Blast would nice - lol - but still this doesn't help those good people.
EZ
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Bikertrash05
Posted on Friday, September 18, 2009 - 07:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sorry, but
My '09 is paid for, and I was laid off from HD in May. My dad works at Capitol Dr, and he gets 4 months off this year, and his future with HD won't last through 2010. Times are tough, yeah, but they are tough all over. If the fortunate few want to donate money, that is great, but you ain't getting sympathy from me.
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Americanmadexb
Posted on Friday, September 18, 2009 - 08:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just found out i will be laid off in April b/c the gov. has cut spending from the HUMVEE as of right now. We will see!
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Blake
Posted on Friday, September 18, 2009 - 09:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Great time to cut military spending, while we're still in the middle of a war. But hey, ram the stimulus through without even reading it.


Who the @$#% do these idiots in DC think builds Hummers??? Better to subsidize the purchase of Hondas and Toyotas?

I'm angry!


EZ, I think that "rutthless" comment is way out of line. If a company cannot stay in business, then ALL the employees lose. I also understand that Buell is continuing to offer some kind of Holiday compensation to the laid off employees.

I'd be all for a top shelf BadWeB food bank for the folks.
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Court
Posted on Friday, September 18, 2009 - 10:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buell is going to GREAT lengths to minimize the impact the economy (not Buell business practices) are extracting on Buell employees.

I think it would be really cool to see how much we could raise, toss in a pot and send it to be turned into Thanksgiving meals for laid off Elves.

It'd be so cool to see each one get a Badweb turkey and a $100 grocery gift certificate and a "Thank you" note.

I feel sorry for all the folks who are currently suffering and am trying to do everything I can locally. I'd like to be involved with a neat Buell effort.

Court
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Ezblast
Posted on Friday, September 18, 2009 - 11:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Court - that is what I'm talking about. A little of the burden lifted on the good holidays where we celebrate giving thanks with our brothers. I think remembering the folks who have been a great part of the our riding joy, the builders - literally - and giving a small helping hand in that token of thanks would be a honest gesture of thank you to the people working at Buell.
EZ
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Ezblast
Posted on Saturday, September 19, 2009 - 12:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Ruthless comment was directed elsewhere, and not meant to the company - it saddens me to say.

Oh - and I'm in for a donation as well, send what to where and who?
EZ

(Message edited by ezblast on September 19, 2009)
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Ratbuell
Posted on Saturday, September 19, 2009 - 09:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm in as well. As soon as something solidifies, let me know.

On a good note - I got an email from a staffer in ET about a different subject, but we touched on this as well. Suffice it to say, things up there are somber...but they're nowhere near the giving-up stage. The season in DSB, and Danny's triumph, has kept everyone up there feeling as good as possible. Are times tough? Absolutely. Are they calling it quits? Not a chance.

The elves are still the elves!
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Ezblast
Posted on Saturday, September 19, 2009 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rock on! OK Folks how about it? How does one get this ball rolling?
EZ
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Firebolt020283
Posted on Saturday, September 19, 2009 - 01:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i cannot help a lot but i am willing to help what i can. I know I do not have it hard compared some of the people right now as i have a job and i really hate to have something and others have nothing so I will help if as much as i can.
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Ezblast
Posted on Saturday, September 19, 2009 - 05:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Helping where one can is what the BADWEB is all about and how this website grew to be what it is today. That's a terrific attitude!
EZ
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Tortoise
Posted on Saturday, September 19, 2009 - 06:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm in. Just let me know where to send.

Despite my comments that "I'm going Japanese" due to the marketing campaign I still think Buell makes nice bikes and its not the blue collar worker's fault that management is retarded.
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F_skinner
Posted on Saturday, September 19, 2009 - 06:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm in. Just let me know where to send.

Plus 1
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Kyrocket
Posted on Saturday, September 19, 2009 - 09:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I like Court's idea of a turkey and grocery coupon but we're talking some serious cash aren't we? I mean aren't there something like 200 people employed there? A quarter of that is 50 so we're looking at $5000 plus 50 turkeys (considering the coupon is for $100 groceries) Someone would have to know someone on the inside, probably human resources, that knows who's laid off and how to contact them. My boat isn't floating all that great right now but is nowhere near capsizing so I'd be down for some Buell love.
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, September 19, 2009 - 10:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Which is the best grocer in East Troy?
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, September 19, 2009 - 11:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The BadWeB account has it covered, but more would be welcome. $100 is short of what I'd like to see. More like $300 in grocery vouchers.

We'll need a list of the folks.

Court, help!
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Court
Posted on Saturday, September 19, 2009 - 11:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I can handle the logistics and names.

I'm curious to find out just how management is "retarded".

"Management" didn't do this economy and when you are selling 10 bikes a day it makes little sense to build 70.

Management could have done what Harley-Davidson did. I got two letters from old friends at Harley-Davidson who, after 21 years, were "released" last week.

Buell laid off the minimum number of folks, continues aggressive development work, is paying their holidays during the time off, their vacations and all their benefits.

I saw some of the choices that management had and I could not be prouder.

Give me a day or two and I'll get the logistics started.

I know many of these folks and they are absolutely wonderful folks.

I'll be in for the first $300.

Court
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Tortoise
Posted on Sunday, September 20, 2009 - 12:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Court,

Sounds like you are very knowledgeable about Buell. Maybe you have numbers regarding how much Buell spent on its recent advertising campaign vs. how much they are saving by the planned layoff.
Perhaps you also have numbers regarding how many new bike sales the new ads were supposed to bring in vs. how much they are actually bringing in.

My point is that the ads are very risky. Risks are good in business but they don't always turn out as planned.

I worked as an apps. engineer for a company that took big risks in 2005/2006 and ended up going bankrupt. Over 140 employees lost their jobs.

Sorry if I turned this topic into another discussion about the ads but I wanted to respond.

Court, I am taking the whole thing a little personal right now due to some personal matters. If you want to discuss this further maybe you can PM me and I will explain.
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