| Author | Message | ||
     Buellshyter |
Eboos, that's weird because Benelli has a fine reputation and that shotgun ain't cheap to buy, either. Was this testing before or after the armed services chose it as the joint service combat shotgun?? | ||
| Ryker77 |
Don't like the ammo choice -- since a gun is only useable if you have ammo. I'll stick with common 5.56 and 7.62 9mm and .45 Make one of those in .45 and I'd pay 1200.00 in a flash. | ||
| Buellshyter |
They were testing this a few years ago up the road at the Aberdeen Proving Ground. They scrapped the project due to political pressure. The HK XM8  | ||
| Spiderman |
I want one of dees...  | ||
| Road_thing |
Eboos, I've been shooting an 11-87 Premier Skeet in clay pigeon competition since '93. I had a bunch of failures early on, the old style gas rings kept breaking, extractor broke, action rails even broke, but after replacing them with the newer stuff from Remington, it's been reliable. Probably closing in on 100,000 rounds through it. The blue's wearing off and it's not as pretty as it was (of course, the pink paint doesn't help) but it hasn't quit on me in a long time. I run it with oil on the magazine tube and strip it all the way down about once a year. It's the one on the right...  rt ps--the Beretta never quits! | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
Yay! gunthread! I just got this:  Jams like a mother with JHP but runs ok with cheapo ball ammo. | ||
| M1combat |
Mine's in my profile... Good call Buellshyter  . You'll love it . Put one 3" Magnum in it, then load the rest with 2-3/4" 00 Buck ... Then hand it to a friend . | ||
| Blackbelt |
Swampy - when I get one I will let ya come over and shoot it.. Eboos - It does have a 16.5" Barrel. It is a bullpup design. rather kwel too. but it meets all federal regs. Go to www.fnhusa.com and read about the firearm.. I can't go to firearms websites @ work.. bummer... | ||
| Johnnymceldoo |
The PS90 is neat but like everyones said the ammo is ridiculous. I had hopes to buy an FS2000 this year but my priorities changed. Its a very neat bullpup. Its hard to beat a good AR or AK for the money. | ||
| Chasespeed |
M4 P220 Chase | ||
| Blackbelt |
oh yeah my current inventory is AK Ruger P-90 Remington 710 Thompson Center Grey Hawk .44 Ruger Buffalo BP Revolver More to come.. lol | ||
| Ryker77 |
http://www.impactguns.com/store/media/oly_oa-98.jpg http://www.impactguns.com/store/media/oly_oa-98.jpg This on my to get list. Along with a xd45 and a tommygun. (Message edited by ryker77 on February 21, 2007) | ||
| Vanvideo |
Toe Cutter, your Win shotgun is a trench gun and worth big bucks! Man, they look bad-ass. | ||
| Aesquire |
I like the Winchester SuperX2. Gas operated, less recoil, fastest cycle time. You do have to clean it from time to time. Remington has had an ongoing quality control problem with the O-ring grooves, If you got a good worker now, keep it, but I wouldn't buy one today. The wee Jaffa killer ( P-90 The #1 alien slayer on Stargate SG-1 ) is cute, and ammo is getting cheaper, but it won't be as cheap as .223 or even .308 until someone buys it for their army, and the ammo goes surplus. Like to try it though. Most promising new bullpup is the Israeli one, don't remember the name. No iron sights, built in holosight. | ||
| Johnnymceldoo |
I lost all my guns in a tragic and mysterious boating accident  | ||
| Eboos |
"Was this testing before or after the armed services chose it as the joint service combat shotgun??" The testing was after the selection. Somewhat long after, and had no basis for any selection decision. Yeah, there were a few "tests" that fell into that catagory. Some selections were a bit more skewed then others. Take the Marine Corps' Designated Marksman Rifle. Did it really out perform the AR10T, and H&K's submition? Why is it using a GG&G sight mount that doesn't fit properly and needs to be tack welded in 2 places? (Message edited by eboos on February 22, 2007) | ||
| Johnnylunchbox |
Heres a nice Marlin Camp Carbine 9MM bullpup. If you can't tell I am a big Marlin fan.  | ||
| Scottykrein |
 For the money you can't beat the M14 (or the M1A1 SOCOM II). | ||
| Djkaplan |
"I like the Winchester SuperX2. Gas operated, less recoil, fastest cycle time." The FN SLP I posted a pic of earlier has the same action as the SuperX2 and the Browning Gold series shotguns. Supposedly, the action is so fast, you can cycle 5 shells in 3 seconds. None of my fingers can move that fast. | ||
| Cataract2 |
Bah, I enjoy shotting these.  | ||
| Jayvee |
Most fun gun I ever got to shoot was the M2, from the top of my M60A1 tank. Only got to shoot it twice, though, I was the tank driver, in peacetime, didn't get to shoot much. Second most fun gun was the M3 "grease" gun in .45 acp caliber. That's also quite amusing, but in a different way. Now I live in California, hard to get anything fun anymore... (I do have 1911s, Contender, Rugers, et al, I compete in IPSC, Bullseye, and Metallic Silhouette.) | ||
| Buellshyter |
How about one of these...lmao  | ||
| Rick_a |
I've got a Mini-14 with a bullpup stock and the barrel cut down to 16". There's only about 2" of flash hider sticking out of the stock. It looks cheap and balances weird but is inexpensive and a ton of fun to shoot. With an Aimpoint Comp it shoots just as accurately as it did in its original configuration. It also stores very easily! The trigger needs work, though. I also have a Mech-Teck carbine conversion for the 1911 in 45acp that has a reflex sight and a cheekpiece from a Choate sniper stock affixed to it. I'm planning on shortening and porting that barrel as well. Both are purely fun guns that have some utility as well. I'm with Ryker on the ammo issue. I like sticking with tried and true. I own guns in .22LR, 9mm, 45acp, .44mag, .223/5.56mm, .308WIN, .50BMG, and 12GA. (Message edited by Rick_A on February 23, 2007) | ||
| Blublak |
Hey Rick.. Only two problems I see with the Mini-Gun / Electric Gattling.. One - The few civilian legal units I've seen were all above the $100K mark. Two - Feeding one of those can get really, really... REALLY expensive.. Really. Aside from that.. it's not really practical for home defense.. unless of course you live in a combat zone and are expecting any number of miscreants to wander by. After all, in the US, being an actual assault weapon (by true definition) it is not appropriate for home defense. Really.. Ok, nuff said.. | ||
| Buellshyter |
After all, in the US, being an actual assault weapon (by true definition) it is not appropriate for home defense. It's an end of times weapon. I don't live that far from the city and I'm prepared to meet my maker but first I intend to take a few miscreants out. | ||
| Ryker77 |
just what is an "assault" weapon? Becuase WWI and WW2 had more troops in real "assault" situtaions and it was with a bolt action type rifle. Then based on current crimes - most all gun crimes are with little cheap pistols. Any weapon can be used in an "assualt" | ||
| Aesquire |
An assault weapon is a selective fire rifle/carbine that fires a reduced power cartridge. ( the actual definition ) Selective fire means it can fire either single shot, or multiple rounds with one trigger squeeze. IE, a "machine gun". Reduced power means a round with less power & recoil than a full power rifle round. Full power = 30-06, 8mm Mauser, .303 British, 7.62 x 54R, etc. Reduced power = .223 ( 5.56 Nato ) 7.62 x 39 ( Ak-47 etc. Soviet ) 5.8 x 42 ( Chinese ) etc. The Clinton era false definition of "assault weapon" was.... anything that looked remotely military, and we can get away with calling a scary name. Believe it or not, Handgun Control, Inc. ( they have changed their name to protect the guilty...I mean, to sound cooler ) in their book on how to destroy the constitution, ( I forget the title, and have "loaned" it out forever ) plotted the use of name change to create fear & enable the violation of the 2nd amendment easily, one evil step at a time. First, call all remotely military guns, "Assault weapons", then ( I forget the order ) any rifle with a scope is a "Sniper Rifle", all .22's are "Assassination weapons", and, any shotgun & a hacksaw blade can make a shotgun a "Sawed Off shotgun" so bunch by bunch, the sheeple can be disarmed with a PR campaign. No Lie. "Assault Rifle" was a name that Hitler came up with for the Sturmgewehr 44. The first true assault rifle, Hitler at first forbid it's production, wanting to focus on production of the tried & true Mauser bolt action. Certain Generals, ( I forget who, now ) secretly overrode his orders & started small scale production. The tale goes, when Hitler saw the '44 demonstrated, he fell in lust, demanded that all his troops get them, gave it a macho name, and took credit. Today most '44's can be found in Iraq. The Soviets captured vast quantities of them after the war, and gave them in bulk to client states, most notably Syria, who has been supplying them to jihadists as part of the ongoing invasion. To be clear, the AK-47 & M-16 are assault rifles, ONLY if they are capable of firing full auto. Which means that assault rifles already fall under federal restriction, and require a federal permit for sale & possession. State laws vary. ( New York only allows police & the military to have automatic weapons ) End rant. | ||
| Ghostrider |
I've got a couple of old Lee Enfields. One is a No1 MkIII, Austrailian 1942. The other is a British-built No4 MkI of 1941. Both have bayonnets. I also own a Mossberg 12ga with seven shot capacity and a surefire fore-end; a Norinco 1911 with metalife finish, videcki trigger, commander hammer, S&A beveled mag well with arched backstrap, extended thumb safety and slide stop, checkered front and back strap, 18lb recoil spring, chrome barrel (ported), polished feed ramp and barrel hood, and I like to use Wilson Combat magazines; a S&W 5906; a S&W Model 66 .357; a S&W 9mm Ladysmith (for the wifey). Used to have a Glock 19, but sold it because it wasn't sexy enough. Plus I didn't like it's ergonomics even though it would drive tacks. I'd love to have a BAR and/or Garand. | ||
| Nxtr |
If the Amm for the PS 90 seems expensive imagine the cost for the HK G11 with caseless ammo!!! http://www.remtek.com/arms/hk/mil/g11/caseless.htm V/R, Nick | ||
| Johnnymceldoo |
Good post Aesquire. In the media anything black with a "banana clip" is an "assault weapon" or "machine gun". A clip loads a magazine and a magazine loads gun. Heres a romanian underfolder I built with a US made reciever:   This is my AR build with a mix of parts but the reciever was a casting I finished myslelf:  |
