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Lost_in_ohio
Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 03:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This winter has been very mild to this point here in Ohio that is. I have tried a couple of different kinds of cold weather riding glove and have found none that suit me. Most are too bulky or not enough insulation.

I have tried Icon and they where not bad but my fingers get cold if the air temp is in the low thirtys.

I have tried on the wilder and their gauntlet is so long that it is too tight around my wrists with my jacket on that is.

I was thinking of getting some hand guards like on the CityX to keep the wind off my hands a little.

Any suggestions?

So what do you guys do?
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Jaimec
Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 03:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Olympia makes a GREAT pair of winter gauntlets that are quite reasonably priced, too. Leather with thinsulate insulation and a Goretex laminate to block the wind. Look for 'em, I've used 'em for YEARS with no complaints.
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Damnut
Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 04:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Olympia cold weather gloves. I'll be fine ~35 n up, anything lower I would suggest wearing some liners as well.
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Etennuly
Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 04:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The hand guards help a lot more than you would think. I have the HD electric jacket and use the Buell Gauntlet gloves.

The only time my hands get cold is if they get damp from sweat if I don't switch to my other gloves when the temperature is above 45F.

I've ridden my wife's Blast, which doesn't have the hand guards, at the same temperatures and nearly froze my fingers with the same gloves.

Those Gauntlet gloves were not water proof until I sprayed them with a leather water proofer. If you wear them in the rain make sure to get the cuffs inside your rain suit or they work like a funnel for run off down your arms.
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New12r
Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 04:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I use the HD heated gloves, really bulky but man are they warm. Tested down the freeway in 20f degree weather, never felt cold at all.
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Etennuly
Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Are those HD heated gloves water proof???

I was thinking about trying them.
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 04:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

All the guys I know who used to ride around London as despatch riders used to swear by 3 season gloves with hand guards & heated grips.
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New12r
Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 06:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I dont think they are waterproof but you can put a waterproof spray on them. I dont ride in the cold and wet. One or the other for me, got wet today. Well I should say SOAKED.
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Etennuly
Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 06:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks. yeah cold....OK, wet....OK, cold and wet combination sucks! Kinda' cuts right through ya!
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Metalstorm
Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 06:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

For the price I think Tourmaster Winter Elite gloves are the best value. They are a little bulky but not as bulky as most. They have a built in rain cover which is stored in a pocket on the cuff when not in use that is really nice. They're sorta like Aerostitch's triple digit rain covers but they have a little grippy material on the palms. They'll keep you warm down to about 40 degrees. Put the rain covers on (even if it's not raining) and you can go a little colder. If you have handguards, colder still.
My favorite cold glove are the Deersports Pci from Lee Parks design. The insulated ones are almost as warm as the Winter Elites with hardly any bulk at all. They're simply amazing.
The best thing however are heated grips. I never thought they'd make much of a difference until I plunked down $45 to Aerostitch for their heated pads that wrap over your existing grips. They just plug into a 3 amp fused batery cord via sae connector. There is no hi or low, only hi as there is no resistor but it has an off/on switch. You just gotta remember to turn them off or you'll drain the battery.
Anyway.. they make a HUGE ENORMOUS difference. In 55 degrees I was riding around with nothing but my regular thin street gloves.
Oh one thing about the insulated Deersports, they use a material called Outlast phase change material.
This is straight from their website:
When your hands are cold, the liner acts like insulation and keeps heat in. When your hands get hot, it acts as a heat sink and pulls heat away. Additionally, when used with heated grips, it pulls the heat from the grips and distributes it around your hand. These are the only true insulated gloves that work with heated grips as most insulated gloves insulate you from the heat on the grips.
I think they might be telling the truth because something as thin as these gloves should not be as warm as they are.

Back to the point of this thread.
My suggestion is to spend the money for Buell handguards and plunk down $45 to Aerostitch for the heated grip pads or for less $$ American Sportbike has a set of the heated pads that go under the grips & are hardwired to a switched circuit. They have hi & low heat settings & when the key is off they are off.

Personally, now that I have felt the wonders of warm grips, I want a pair of HotGrips. Real truely heated grips. But they're over $100 so I gotta wait till the summer bonus.
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Metalstorm
Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 06:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Good Lord! Did I type all that?!?
Sorry about that, I just got excited when I saw this thread because I finally conquered the freezing hands syndrome & wanted to share
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Hootowl
Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 07:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have yet to find a pair of gloves that are waterproof. Lots of manufacturers make the claim, but every pair I've owned leaked. If it's raining hard enough, in it comes. I have some Widder (I think that's the right name) electric gloves. They work very well. They're not waterproof, but they don't claim to be. Even wet, they still keep me warm. They have heat strips down the back of the fingers. Nice. Bulky though, like ski gloves.
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M1combat
Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 07:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a pair of first gear gloves that work pretty good down to about 12 degrees at about 90MPH.
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Bigdaddy
Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Uly has the first handguards I've ever ridden and I cannot believe the difference. Take the wind off the knuckles and your hands stay nice and warm with any kind of dry glove.
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Jaimec
Posted on Saturday, December 30, 2006 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Olympias are definitely waterproof, but here's the problem: When it rains, the water runs down your sleeves into the gauntlet tops and into the gloves themselves.

Since the gloves use a Goretex liner it takes a LONG time for the gloves to dry out again.

Unless you have a jacket with sleeves thick enough to go OVER the gauntlets, your hands are going to get wet no matter HOW waterproof the gloves are.

The ONLY rain suit/glove combination I've ever used that actually worked was a set sold by BMW in the early 80's. Dayglo fluorescent orange rubber latex gloves with a liner that went INSIDE the sleeves of the matching dayglo orange rainsuit.

Naturally, by the time I wore out that suit and needed to replace it, it was no longer available. I don't even bother with rain gloves anymore. I just wear deerskin undyed leather gloves. If it rains, I just take the gloves off, wring them out, and put them back on.
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Bigblock
Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 02:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The tourmaster are nice, they have a skirt with pull cord above the gauntlet, and you crank that cord, and it seals quite well to your sleeve, my hands stayed completely dry and warm in driving rain for well over an hour, with the raincovers on them. I tested them for over a half hour without the covers, hands still stayed dry. I haven't had the opportunity yet to test them longer than that. They're a bit bulky, but worth it.
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Lost_in_ohio
Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was thinking that the hand guards would help. How big a PITA is the heated grips to install? I was reading another thread a couple of months ago about cartridge inserts that go into the handle bar.....I have bar end mirrors so depending on how they mount.

I will also look at tour master gloves too.


Thanks for the suggestions.
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Midnightrider
Posted on Sunday, December 31, 2006 - 01:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've had good luck with these wrap around grip warmers

http://www.oxprod.com/index.php?pg=3&action=dept&i d=30&pid=175&p=

and I ride as long as it's above freezing. About $60 at the dealer
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