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Espcustoms
Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 06:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I know this has been beaten to death already, but I just have to vent somewhere! I've got the whole week off this week and all I've been wanting to do was ride. My bike has been down for most of the past few months and all I need to do now is replace my spark plug wires and I'm back in action. I ordered a set of "universal" wires hoping to avoid the dealer nightmare. I knew I was in trouble when I realized that the coil ends of the Buell wires are different than any of the ends that came in the kit. After several attempts to put the old ends on the new wires, I gave up. No big deal, I'll just make a trip to one of the dealers and get a stock set. I wanted to avoid this because despite there being several HD dealers in my area, the nearest one that stocks Buells is an hour away. There are several, but they;re all about that distance. I got on the phone today and started calling dealers. I called every dealer between San Diego and Long Beach and not one had a set of spark plug wires! Come on man, we're not talking about some random part that nobody ever needs here. Absolutely unbelievable.

Anyone know where I can get a set of wires in So Cal fast?
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Pwnzor
Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 07:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

American Sport Bike
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Teeps
Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 07:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I can't find plug wires at American Sport Bike...
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Slaughter
Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 07:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Last time I was in Glendale HD/Buell, they had them hanging on the wall but I am afraid they might be closed this week!

818-246-5618 - you can ask for Ernie Snair, Josh at the Parts desk knows Buells.

I am danged sure they had at least one or two sets hanging in there a couple weeks ago

If you strike out - PM me and I can see if I still have an old set
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Thansesxb9rs
Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 08:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Call Dave S up and have him overnight them to you.
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Buellnuts
Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Reason I changed brands was due to what your going through. A stealership should be required to stock parts. Owning a mail order motorcycle didn't work for me.

Bob



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Espcustoms
Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 10:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A trip over to American Sportbike tomorrow is going to have me sorted out.
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Jimidan
Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buellnuts sez:

The Reason I changed brands was due to what your going through. A stealership should be required to stock parts. Owning a mail order motorcycle didn't work for me.

Bob


And what brand of motorcycle it it that the stealerships stocks all of these parts again? I have yet to find one that had parts as simple as spark plug wires, other than my HD Buell store. I have had many brands and ordered a lot of parts, and none seem any better (and some worse) about keeping parts in stock.

And that is a picture of the bike that you gave up your Buell for? It looks like it has a hot water bottle stopper in the muffler.}
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Buellnuts
Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 11:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jimmy, I have several brands of Motorcycles and have owned 5 Buells. Some dealerships are very good. (Some)

I like Buells but don't like the support of most of the dealerships. I don't see why one needs to order parts like wires, brake pads etc.

Plain and simple.

"And that is a picture of the bike that you gave up your Buell for? It looks like it has a hot water bottle stopper in the muffler.}"

Typical response and judging by your profile, it really sounds out of character.


Bob
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Lady_asb
Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 12:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You couldn't find them because I hadn't uploaded them... I thought I had, we've had the XB wires in the store now for months but I guess I just screwed up the upload and didn't notice it.

See http://www.americansportbike.com/shop/cgi-bin/cp-a pp.cgi?usr=51F6502889&rnd=8233834&rrc=N&affl=&cip= 69.160.135.44&act=&aff=&pg=prod&ref=17146&cat=&cat str=

Al
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Kdan
Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 01:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My dealer so far as had just about everything I needed, except for the new crank and gear set. But, brakes, wires, various nuts and screws, stator and regulator...Never a problem. Anything else like a new key or plastic pieces, I call Deadman or Smokescreen and in two to seven days, I roll on out there and pick it up.

It's called establishing a relationship.
Swing by your local car dealership sometime today and tell them you need a throttle body for your whatever. You think they'll have it on the shelf? Doubt it.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 07:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There's a dealer in the town I live in, but I get all my parts from American Sport Bike or Daves, and I just started buying stuff from Liberty HD and Buell, one of the board sponsors.

It saves a lot of headaches if you just order the stuff. The parts are always right, you get the parts just as quick, and they're delivered to your door.

The local HD dealer doesn't know me from Adam. I can't even get Sportster parts from them.
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Oz666
Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 11:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The local Buell dealer here stocks oil, oil filters (black AND CHROME!) and D207's; $245 front, $285 rear, installation extra. There is also a shelf (the Buell Department) with a tank bag for an X1. I have DaveS on speed dial...





Oz

It just occurred to me, I stock more Buell parts than my local dealer!

(Message edited by oz666 on December 27, 2006)
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Jimidan
Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buellnuts,

I was just joking with you about your bike...actually, it looks very interesting. I like the single sided swingarm...very trick! Hey, I own a couple of Buells, a 998 Ducati and a honda F4 race bike, so I can appreciate lots of machinery...variety is the spice of life.

But I still have to order nearly everything for all of my bikes...regardless of the brand. Since the Buells are both 1996 vintage, I can understand that...although my stealership has more stuff for them than the Duck/Honda (same stealership for both) has for my other bikes. Keeping parts inventories low seems to be the business model they are all using.

Oh, and have I told you lately that you have a cool bike?

jimidan
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Lake_bueller
Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's not just Buell dealerships. I needed a float needle for my Suzuki. They dealership wanted to sell me a $200 carb rebuild kit. Thanks to me friend at the local independant shop, I was able to find just the needle assembly. I replaced all 4 for under $50!!!(but it took 2+ weeks to get the parts)
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Pwnzor
Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 12:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I can't find plug wires at American Sport Bike...

Items like that are often not listed on the American Sport Bike site. That's when you can utilize the brand new invention called the telephone.

Al can get stock parts like nobody else around So Cal.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 12:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hmmm... I didn't read the whole thread before I replied....

BAD BAD PWNZOR!!!!
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Espcustoms
Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 05:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well guys, I took a trip down to American Sportbike and my problem is solved. I should have just done that in the first place! Now I know better.

I wouldn't expect a dealer to stock every single little part in existence, but basic maintenance items should be there.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 05:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"I wouldn't expect a dealer to stock every single little part in existence, but basic maintenance items should be there."

You think?

We complain about Harley dealers quite a bit, but I've never been to any dealership that stocked basic parts for the bike they sold me. I've had all the Japanese brands and most of those dealers were worse than the poorest HD dealer I've been too.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 05:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've never been to any dealership that stocked basic parts for the bike they sold me.

Amen to that. Bike dealers pretty much suck, but at least the jap bike dealers KNOW about the bikes, where the HD dealers don't know SQUAT.

No lie, I've had an HD dealer ask me if my bike was the "new Ducati".

edit, in the name of fairness: I was at Capistrano HD when that happened, and they do not sell Buells. I was buying oil.

(Message edited by pwnzor on December 27, 2006)
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Buellnuts
Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 09:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jimidan, Your right on getting parts for your vintage buells. How do you like your Duc?.

I think wear parts such as Brake pads, bearings, oil, filters, tires, drive componants, etc should be required stock for dealerships. I wouldn't ask anyone to stock all replacement parts (That would be the factory's responsibility)

I have found that the Triumph dealer's around the area have an adaquate stock of wear parts. (weird)

Our HD/Buell dealerships were at one time some of the best in the country. (No more)
Why, The mother ship I suspect. Also through out the tube/recall years, HD dealer's grew tired of dealing with having to service/ warrant what they sell and it became a huge pain in the ass. (not the consumers fault) It was the fault of Buell trying to do what was right and HD laying out the rules.

Remember when HD changed all Buell part #'s. Why? who know's.

Bean counter's. God, I gotta just shut up!

Waiting for the new motor, Bob

Jim, no offense was taken.
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Jimidan
Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 09:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bob, I haven't had the Duck for very long as I had to bring it back into street legal trim after I bought it. I had to learn about the bike so I took it completely apart (except for the engine), and put it back together with a torque wrench.

Now I need to dial it in as it has Ohlins all around...I have a lot to learn, but it is gonna be fun doing it. Riding with a slipper clutch is also interesting.

My S2 has Race Tech Gold Valves in the forks and shock, so it is pretty sweet, but this Duck is a whole other animal in the curves. It's not much on a long trip though, so I probably will not be buying soft luggage for it.

If you are waiting for a new motor, you ARE in luck. How does a 1098 for $14,995 sound?

jimidan
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Buellnuts
Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 10:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The 1098 is on my short list for a new bike this year but I'm not ruling out the new Aprilia Mille.

The first time I rode a Ducati was when I owned a Buell(it was a 998).I got off thinking, Damn, Across the pond there not dickin around. These thing's rip.

Have fun!, Bob
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Pwnzor
Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

D207's; $245 front, $285 rear, installation extra.

That is highway robbery. I just got a rear Metzeler M3 for $135.00, no appointment, in and out in 30 minutes. Mounting and balancing, $16.00. I was out the door for just under $160.00 total.

Pwnzor's tip for the day: Don't buy tires at a stealership.
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Loki
Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 02:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Matt,

local indy to me just quoted me $185 for a M3 front, not including mount/bal. Likewise for a new Z6.
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Shooter
Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 02:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

As far as m/c parts go, thank Al Gore for inventing the internet...

I would love to support the local bike shops,but every time I do I just get frustrated with the poor service.

The one exception is an independent shop that mounts tires for me.Old School one man operation.As long as he's not off dicking around on his jet ski he mounts my tires (that I bought on-line)

My observation is that dealerships tend to operate like Car stores....make every dime you can cuz the customer will never come back anyway.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 08:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well, anybody in So Cal who wants the name of the shop, email me at pwnzor at zero3nine dot com. The email in my profile gets so much junk in it, I can't hardly get my personal messages.

Mount and balance is 16 bucks if you buy the tire from them. If you bring in a tire, it's more.

If you ride in, wheels still on the bike, it's like 38 extra bucks to mount and balance tires.

Wheels come off easy, I go the cheap route.

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Buellnuts
Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 08:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is kinda crazy but... If I owned a dealership and wanted to pick one item that would draw customers in, it would be tires. (At Blow out prices) (Free mount & ballance on tires bought in the shop.)

Tires cost's are a big deal and word of mouth is good advertising. Every person that swings the door open is a potential buyer of other goods.

Dealerships can't sell to many tires looking at there price's. Most people I know buy them on line.
Why not sell more for less and draw customers than have expensive tires and have people avoid the store? Does it make any sense?

I dont know.

Bob
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Steve_mackay
Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 08:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hals HD/Buell has ran tire specials in the past... Take for instance, I got a pair of Scorpion Syncs mounted and balanced on the bike for $280.

The only deal was, ya had to do a Burnout before ya got your new ones : )

So, that's what I did : )

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Tx05xb12s
Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 11:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Between Dave and Al, I am able to get anything I need usually within 48 hours way over here in Houston, TX. Give them a call. I'm running Al's racing plug wires right now as a matter of fact.
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