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Aeholton
Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 04:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060905/BREAKINGNEWS/609 05003
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Lake_bueller
Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 05:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Any bets that he was either drunk or stoned?
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Paw
Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 05:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Damn he did a squid a$$ move in a truck. What an A-hole.
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Macbuell
Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 05:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It was 9PM. I wonder if the moped had lights. I assume it did but I've riden that road. It is flat and straight. I'm not sure how he could have not seen him.
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Sleez
Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 05:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

regardless, illegal pass, double yellow, guilty! if the article is correct and accurate!?
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Kdan
Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 05:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Any bets that he was either drunk or stoned?

You're saying that because...?

I know, it's the long hair and tattoos isn't it Sgt. Prescott? He musta been hammered, he doesn't look "normal".
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99buellx1
Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 06:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

...maybe because they are awaiting the results of toxicology tests before filing charges, as stated in the article.
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Aeholton
Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 06:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You're saying that because...?

I know, it's the long hair and tattoos isn't it Sgt. Prescott? He musta been hammered, he doesn't look "normal".

Or maybe the persona he portrayed on the TV of being a partier? He works hard to come across that way. I don't think it has anything to do with his tattoos or dreadlocks. Act that way and people assume the worst.
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Stealthxb
Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 06:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

act that way and people assume the worst.

Assumptions are shame.
Most of the time they are incorrect.

I am a ex-dreadlocked, tattooed, hooligan, biker personally portrayed in real life as a partier; yet am fully responsible for my actions and their effect on others.
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No_rice
Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 06:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i wonder it from personal experiance. everytime i have ever talked to him he has been hitting it hard. also same with the rest of my friends that have partied with him. also though those were different circumstances,not driving down the road in a truck.

hope he wasnt but either way i think he's in some trouble for this one

(Message edited by no_rice on September 05, 2006)
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Kano832003
Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 06:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They do a toxicology test on pretty much any accident especially when someone dies as a result. I'm sure some of you have done something stuipd and illeagle while driving. And we should all know how hard it is to see a motorcycle and even harder to see a moped. I'm not saying Lane is innocent of any charges that may come up and it is a bad idea to pass one car in a no passing zone let alone two. But I don't think it's right to call him a squid and make him a poster child for the low life scum of this country. Had this been some unknown person in Florida you wouldn't even have heard about it. It sucks that someone had to die but I'm not going to blam Lane for all the troubles in the world.
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Eboos
Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 06:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"I wonder if the moped had lights."

From the news article:
"Florida Highway Patrol Lt. Patrick O'Neill confirmed that Morelick was riding the small motor bike.

“But it was street legal,” O'Neill said this morning."


It would have lights, or else it wouldn't be street legal.
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Aeholton
Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 06:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/wkmg/20060905/lo_wkmg/9791096

This article mentions that Lane was "semi-conscious". Could be from impact (damage was pretty heavy on driver side) or possibly from some sort of intoxication.
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Chainsaw
Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 08:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Florida Highway Patrol traffic homicide investigators said no charges were filed...

WTF! Regardless of toxicology results, they could charge this asshat with reckless driving resulting in death, illegal passing, and a boatload of other traffic infractions without knowing his blood alcohol level. Dude probably wont even lose his license.
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Curtyd
Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 08:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You would HOPE it would at least create a downturn in his business, but in this publicity crazed world, he'll probably sell more bikes than ever.
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1313
Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Billy Lane driving while impaired in Sailsbury, NC

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Statik
Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 09:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

sweet dreadlocks bro.
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Psyclonej
Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 09:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wonder how the AMA will respond, if at all.
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Aeholton
Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 10:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Billy Lane driving while impaired in Sailsbury, NC

Wonder what the result of his Aug 24th court date was?
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Iamike
Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Some LEOs here could probably corroborate this but my guess is that they aren't filing any charges until they are sure what they can nail him with.
They don't have to charge him with anything right away.
In my book killing someone while passing in a no-passing zone should put him away for a long time.
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Eboos
Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 10:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Discovery Channel abhors a vacuum. I'm sure they will have a new host before he even gets charged.
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Notpurples2
Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 08:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That sucks. He was one of the few big name bike builders I liked. Not because of his "persona" but because he had some great ideas in engineering and design of his bikes.
The irony of it is that he hit a rider, a moped rider but a rider nonetheless. Everyone I've ever know who has rode motorcycles says the same thing; "Its the other drivers you have to watch." Most people haven't been on a motorcycle, and so they don't understand or give them the respect they deserve on the road. You would think that someone who builds motorcycles for a living would be more aware of a rider on the road. But I wasn't there and I don't know the whole story.
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Curtyd
Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 12:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

" KILL A BIKER, GO TO JAIL"...

Isn't that the bumper sticker on all the pick-up trucks trailering their bikes down to Bike Week every year?
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Ftd
Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"maybe because they are awaiting the results of toxicology tests before filing charges, as stated in the article."

Small World

I work probably 30 feet from where the tox. screens will be performed. In the past I have testified in DUI vehicular manslaughter cases in FL. Seven (7) year sentences are common.

YMMV
FTD
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Chainsaw
Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Seven (7) year sentences are common

I hope he gets jail time. Problem is, if he was not chemically impaired, he wont serve a day in jail. It's very frustrating to see time and time again.

The message I see: If you want to commit a random murder, use a car. Do it sober, and you'll never even have 'cuffs slapped on you.
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Lake_bueller
Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 02:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Taken from WFTV website:

"They are waiting for blood-alcohol tests to come back. That could take weeks, but they do believe they already have enough probable cause to think he was under the influence"

Troopers suspect he was driving under the influence late Monday night.

"We do believe he was impaired based on the evaluations the trooper did on Mr. Lane," Miller said.
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Whodom
Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 02:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I hope he gets jail time. Problem is, if he was not chemically impaired, he wont serve a day in jail. It's very frustrating to see time and time again.

The message I see: If you want to commit a random murder, use a car. Do it sober, and you'll never even have 'cuffs slapped on you.


Chainsaw,

Do you know that to be true? It seems like he should get a worse sentence if he was sober, because that would mean that he knowingly and willingly passed two cars in a no-passing zone and killed the moped rider as a result. No excuses.
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Ftd
Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 03:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"It seems like he should get a worse sentence if he was sober, because that would mean that he knowingly and willingly passed two cars in a no-passing zone and killed the moped rider as a result. No excuses."

That might make sense initially but think of a DUI vehicular manslaughter as being a combination of two mistakes. Being impaired while driving and then causing an accident. DUI vehicular manslaughter always gets you a stiffer sentence.
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Rex
Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 07:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

he should be sentenced, if he was driving under the influence and crossed the line and hit the guy. Anyone else doing this in the country, all of the motorcyclist would be wanting the persons head. REX
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Aldaytona
Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 07:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If he was DUI, what's the worst thing that can happen to him..........................



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