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Barthautala
Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Name some manufacturers of quality big twins.......

Ive got a couple......

H-D
S&S
RevTech
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Djkaplan
Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Uh... Victory, Honda, Kawasaki, Yamaha, Suzuki.

Is a Ducati 999 big enough to be a "big twin"?.
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Hammeroid
Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 01:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

confederate
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Barthautala
Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 01:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Uh, Maybe I should clarify..........

Motor manufacturers..........
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Hattori_hanzo
Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 01:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Why?
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Jaimec
Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Don't forget Moto Guzzi!
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Hammeroid
Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 02:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

confederate
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Aldaytona
Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 02:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rev Tech?
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Jaimec
Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 07:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think Rotax builds the V-Twins for Aprilia...
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 07:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ducati

oopps,

didn't see that Danny beat me to it



(Message edited by gentleman_jon on August 31, 2006)
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Slaughter
Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 07:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think Rotax builds the V-Twins for Aprilia...

Yep
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Rex
Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 08:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Don't forget Briggs and STratton. I believe they build a V Twin too. So does Dixie Choppers. the Tuttles built one of their choppers from the lawn tractor motor.

KTM has one too. rex
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Ryker77
Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 08:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

BMW
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1stbuell
Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

BMW is a twin but not a V, it's a boxer. Ducati's are L-Twins if I'm not mistaken.

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Phat_j
Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

question didnt say v in it at all....
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99buellx1
Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 09:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

Uh, Maybe I should clarify..........

Motor manufacturers..........






What.............I dont understand, are you trying to say that Victory, Honda, Kawasaki, Yamaha, Suzuki, Rotax and Moto Guzzi dont manufacture motors?

Or are you strictly looking for HD knockoff brands?
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Jaimec
Posted on Thursday, August 31, 2006 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Actually, the question DOES say V-Twin. And the Ducati IS a V-Twin, just lying on it's side. And I see someone else beat me to KTM. If they sold the Superduke here two years ago I'd likely have one of those instead of my XB12Ss. Still, I don't regret the purchase at all!

I don't know what kind of engine Dixie Chopper makes, but it didn't look like a V-Twin at all.

BMW Twins are 180 degree V's...
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Diablobrian
Posted on Friday, September 01, 2006 - 12:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

a 180 degree engine is still classified as a "V" since the cylinders are not parallel.
The BMW flat engines and even the goldwing/valkyrie/rune are all technically "V"
motors. Granted the hondas mentioned are not twins, but were used as ready examples of the layout.

(Message edited by diablobrian on September 01, 2006)
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Ceejay
Posted on Friday, September 01, 2006 - 01:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dixie Chopper isn't the actual manufacturer of thier engines, I believe it's briggs and Stratton, but not sure...Kohler makes a nice one, sounds good, puts out some good power, makes for a nice go cart...
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Cyclonemick
Posted on Friday, September 01, 2006 - 07:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

TP Engenering
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Ftd
Posted on Friday, September 01, 2006 - 07:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Merch
Ultima
TP
R and R
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Jimidan
Posted on Friday, September 01, 2006 - 08:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jaimec,

The question as originally posted was:

"Name some manufacturers of quality big twins......."

There was no mention of V-twins, just big'uns. Do you suppose he was asking for motors classified in accordance to the HD definition of a 'Big Twin', which would mean a 45 degree twins with a single camshaft?

Contrary to popular belief, the Ducati twin is not "lying on its side". It is tilted forward so that there is a vertical and horizontal cylinder. I guess that may have been what you meant...

jimidan
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Diablobrian
Posted on Friday, September 01, 2006 - 08:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Kendal Johnson
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Djkaplan
Posted on Friday, September 01, 2006 - 08:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

a 180 degree engine is still classified as a "V" since the cylinders are not parallel. The BMW flat engines and even the goldwing/valkyrie/rune are all technically "V" motors. Granted the hondas mentioned are not twins, but were used as ready examples of the layout.

Classified as a "V"? Where? By who? I've never heard of the engines from Honda, VW, BMW, Ferrari, Subaru, Continental... et al, being describe as a anything but a 'flat', 'boxer' or 'horizontaly opposed' layout.
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Staindus
Posted on Friday, September 01, 2006 - 09:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And the point of this thread is......?
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Jackbequick
Posted on Friday, September 01, 2006 - 09:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't get the point either. But let me ask a question about big V-twins.

There are the ones that use a common crankpin and there are some that use staggered crank throws and the cylinders are not in line.

When it comes down to that much loved "seat of the pants" impression of low end torque and pulling power, is there much or any difference between the common crankpin and staggered throws motors? Assuming displacements and power outputs are similar?

Jack
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Bake
Posted on Friday, September 01, 2006 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Aprillia
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Diablobrian
Posted on Friday, September 01, 2006 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

djk: In most technical literature concerning motorcycles, or combustion engines in general, the "flat" motors
are grouped in with the v's as a 180 deg V. I can go through my library and find you specific instances, but it's
really a side issue here. this thread has been hijacked enough.
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Xring
Posted on Friday, September 01, 2006 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The subject line does say "Vtwins".

And unless I'm mistaken the original post was referring to "big twins" as the Harley engines of the 80 cu inch or better (i.e., not Sportsters) are popularly known.

So I guess he means Harley knock-offs.

Bill
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Djkaplan
Posted on Friday, September 01, 2006 - 02:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

" I can go through my library and find you specific instances, but it's
really a side issue here. "


I'll keep an eye out myself for descriptions like that then.
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