| Author | Message | ||
     Ezblast |
As for the Pres's education - its great what money can buy - and save the Koolaid for those who buy what he says - lol - dumb, hardly, but at the same time he'll never be a sterling example of the gene pool - his dad on the other hand;0) - one sharp cookie. GT - JBOTDS! EZ  | ||
| Spreadem |
C'mon everyone...I understand some like the prez, some hate him, but the only reason I posted the pic/story was because I thought everyone could agree that it's cool to see him on a Harley...if you want to bash Bush go start your own thread.... FB2 | ||
| Pwnzor |
I think it's humerous that people who themselves cannot speak eloquently fault the president and question his intelligence for the same reason. Harvard and Yale are both for sale now it seems. So, when someone shows you their degree, what name has to be at the top for you to actually believe it? UC Berkeley? Santa Barbara? Chico State? Humboldt? Good to know you've got my back, Kyle. My son's best friend is named Kyle. Smart kid. (Message edited by pwnzor on August 17, 2006) | ||
| Blake |
I don't like lard frosting though. | ||
| Pwnzor |
clever, Blake. | ||
| Kdan |
I'm a pie guy myself.  | ||
| Corporatemonkey |
Politics on an internet forum =  But it is nice to see the prez on 2 wheels, too bad he doesn't ride in real life... | ||
| Court |
>>>UC Berkeley? Careful....trash Yale all you want but tread gently on UC Berkeley. | ||
| Frankfast |
Annoy a conservative. Think for yourself. | ||
| Marhaba |
Frank that was outta line, along with some of the other choice bits that people have posted here. I can debate politics intelligently, I'm a political science major after all among other things. However, I'm going to agree with a number of different people Pwnzor, I'm glad to see that you can back up your arguments; I'm sure you have more to say, the fact that we're all limited by what interaction we have on the internet does create some small problems when countering arguments. I would hope that Ryker would be able to flesh out his argument a little bit better; however, regardless of political opinion, respect each other!!! | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
I absolutely love that picture, it looks like he's ripping a massive fart & laughing about it! | ||
| Old_man |
A university degree from anywhere does not guarantee intelligence or common sense. Most of the people who worked under my command had degrees, including JDs. I know some of these people would not have been passed on to high school by the nuns who taught me in grade school. Anybody remember Dan Quayle - (Another good man) (Message edited by old man on August 18, 2006) | ||
| Cowboy |
Yes....Another good man hurt by the cruel liberal media | ||
| Old_man |
Quotes: compiled by the cruel media. http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Dan_Quayle/ Funny stuff or very sad. | ||
| Old_man |
"It was just a job. It wasn't any special interest in consumer affairs. I needed a paycheck and the Attorney General said that I would be best to go down there, because he knew I was anti-consumer." Dan Quayle, talking about his job as Chief investigator, consumer protection division of the Indiana Attorney General's office from 1970-1971 US Republican politician (1947 - ) This quote is an indicator of his great intelligence and what a good man he is.(for the very rich) | ||
| Marhaba |
Blake, if you don't want your lard frosting, I'll take it. I like lard frosting | ||
| Blake |
Chocolate chip cookies without nuts just aren't as good. Will send sequestered lard frosting to Marhaba. | ||
| Frankfast |
Marhaba - so you can debate politics intelligently because you're a political science major. Did anyone ever tell you that politics is hardly a science and that if you really wanted to get involved in that stuff you should study law and really learn how to screw people. Now that's a science.As far as Bush getting on that bike. I like Mr. Grumpys take on it. | ||
| Pwnzor |
Court, what I meant is that Berkeley is a liberal campus, I was by no means trying to dump on the academic records of the institutions I listed. Dan Quayle was not elected, he was CHOSEN as a running mate. He's not president, never was. Hey Old-man, get over it. Quayle's not in office any more and neither is your best buddy Bill "co-president" Clinton. While we're on the subject of media, let's talk about the media giving Clinton a pass for lying to the grand jury, the American public, and the entire world on live TV. And let's not forget that the BIN LADEN WAS HANDED TO HIM ON A PLATTER AND HE TURNED IT DOWN. A university degree from anywhere does not guarantee intelligence or common sense. No, it doesn't. Making it through Yale and Harvard and the Texas Air National Guard (you try telling anyone currently serving that THEIR service is less honorable than US Army or Marines or Navy or Air Force) tells me the guy finishes what he starts. Making it all the way to President of the United States of America and getting RE-elected by the largest margin of votes in the history of the nation tells me he is the right man for the job. Bitch and whine all you like, our country is founded on the right to do just that. You don't like our government? Whining about the administration won't do you any good. To effect any real change in this country, we must now take up arms. Thomas Jefferson had a lot to say about this. 'nuff said, I'll let the glass-half-empties and sky-is-falling liberals have the floor. Hopefully none of you are wearing an explosive vest. | ||
| Old_man |
Pwnzor, The only point I was making was that someone with a degree from a university may not be intelligent or have common sense. I was only using Danforth Quayle to illustrate the point. He, having a degree, being a true nit-wit known by all. I didn't mention the president. I would suggest that people be judged by what they do, rather than the university degrees they may own. PS> Not that it matters or is anyone's business, but I voted for Bob Dole. (Message edited by old man on August 19, 2006) | ||
| Skyguy |
Blake, You owe me a hat or some kinda BWB smutz for staying out of this thread lol.  | ||
| Marhaba |
Marhaba - so you can debate politics intelligently because you're a political science major. Did anyone ever tell you that politics is hardly a science and that if you really wanted to get involved in that stuff you should study law and really learn how to screw people. Frank, thanks for the advice on going to law school. Political science majors go on in law school all the time after they are done with their bachelor's degrees, and by golly I think I might. As far as politics not being a science, well, that's your opinion, but it can be approached from a scientific perspective, but most of the time, world events and political races cannot be replicated, however, we can learn from them, and use previous knowledge from those world events to either reasonably predict outcome or change the direction of said events to a slightly different outcome because of past experience... Okay, so I doubt I can cram an entire lesson on political theory in an internet post. You just didn't seem to have a whole lot to say in this discussion that was conducive to thoughtful political debate, and I thought that I'd say so. And as far as going on about how I should really learn to screw people over by going to law school, well, that one came really out of left field and I think that you should probably explain that one to me a little bit better before I really start arguing with you because as far as I'm aware I haven't tried to screw over anybody. Or is that misdirected anger without anything better to say? | ||
| Frankfast |
Marhaba - maybe you'll grow up to be President some day and fulfill all of our dreams. You know - a chicken in every basket and a new Buell in every garage. Good luck. | ||
| Pwnzor |
Old_man, pardon me please for drawing the assumption that you were referring to our president. I read it over again and I still would have assumed the same, due to the fact that the president was the subject of the discussion, and indeed this thread in general. Somehow it got from him sitting on a Harley to how stupid some people percieve him to be, but I digress. I agree with your idea that people should be judged by what they do, and with that in mind it is obvious that the record speaks for itself, and GW doesn't need anyone to defend him. History will bear out the truth about him which is lost among the sea of crap in the media. | ||
| Old_man |
The reason I involved myself in the discussion was that people seemed to be under the impression that because someone had a university degree they were automatically intelligent. I have learned from great experience that this is not the case. I am acquainted with a man who has an MD and a JD who's intellect is suspect to me. He is blessed with a photographic memory and a great vocabulary. But I have found his judgement to be very poor. As I said most of the people who worked under my command had degrees, most were very intelligent but some, I would consider, were not very intelligent at all. One of the most intelligent men I had working for me had only a G.E.D. So the arguement that anyone with a university degree automatically is gifted with intelligence and good judgement or common sense is not true in my experience. | ||
| Mattwhite |
Sort of back to the original point -- There was a rumor president Clinton would come to my school's graduation and I thought that would be pretty cool even though I'm pretty far from a fan of his. I think it's funny that the people who think Bush is stupid lost to him twice. I'll take the intelligence based on a degree argument a step further, though. Can you believe people made a club to call themselves geniuses based on some standardized test? | ||
| Brucelee |
Wasn't the point of the visit to showcase the amazing success story that is HD? I take my hat off to the President for taking the time to visit and show off HD. Thanks GWB. We need more industrial successes like HD in the USA. | ||
| Pwnzor |
I agree, Brucelee. The President is the kind of guy who doesn't spend time reacting to all the crap that gets thrown at him. Rather, he takes the time to visit an American icon and highlight, as you say, an amazing success story. Old_man I'll agree with you in principle, that a document granted to an individual by an institution does not necessarily indicate the intelligence level of said individual. If by intelligence you are referring to common sense or "street smarts", the ability to think on your feet. I do not, however, believe that it applies to the President. His problem is simple, he is not an eloquent speaker. He uses the simplest terms, doesn't spend time formulating words to candy coat situations, he speaks plainly. I, for one, find it refreshing not to hear doublespeak from the CIC. Clinton was a charmer, using all kinds of colorful colloquialisms and the like to seduce the listener into an "it's cool, don't worry about it" kind of complacency. I'd say he's one of the most seductive public speakers since JFK. Everyone loved him because he sounded friendly and spoke beautifully and with extensive vocabulary. A natural politician, to be sure. Bush is a regular guy with an outstanding education and a real-world grasp on things. It's disturbing to many because we had 8 years of illusory prosperity with an "the government will handle all the problems" attitude. The government will not handle YOUR or MY problems. They only help their own problems, and if, as a rider to a bill, they can occasionally tack on something for the people, then so be it. Paying more taxes only feeds the beast that is killing us. Dems will raise taxes without fail. GOP's will cut them. I vote with my wallet more often than not. We need to see the forest for the trees, folks. The country is barreling down a dark highway with no headlights. It WILL NOT MATTER which party is in power. It is US against THEM, whether you like it or not. Unless there is a revolution, the USA's destiny is manifest. Preordained. I was talking to someone the other day and he said "I give the USA about 50 more years." I thought it was a rather generous assessment. My guess would be 15. | ||
| Old_man |
Pwnzor, Again, I must say, I was not referencing the president. The point I was trying to make was about an idea not any particular individual. | ||
| Pwnzor |
Old_man I'll agree with you in principle, that a document granted to an individual by an institution does not necessarily indicate the intelligence level of said individual. Did you miss that sentence? I had clearly digressed from my position about your perceived assertion. |
