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Rum_runner
Posted on Friday, April 21, 2006 - 09:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm New to bwb's just wanted to say hi. and i got a couple of questions. i just bought a 1997 s1 and was wondering how fast i should expect it to go. haven"t had a chance to really open her up. and i was wondering if anyone makes a elimination kit for the rear fender. and any advice to a fairly new rider.
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Pammy
Posted on Friday, April 21, 2006 - 09:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You should call Al at American Sport Bike. The number or link is listed around on this site. He has goodies for all the Buells.
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Ray_maines
Posted on Friday, April 21, 2006 - 09:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

138mph. Stock gearing
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Rum_runner
Posted on Friday, April 21, 2006 - 09:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ray what else can you tell me about my bike. any and all info would be great.
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Oldog
Posted on Friday, April 21, 2006 - 10:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If 138 aint fast enough contact Pammy
yes this pammy, x1 160 rwhp
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Henrik
Posted on Friday, April 21, 2006 - 11:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Clint, if you look around you'll find a lot of S1 info plus information that applies to all tube framed Buells (tubers).

On a general note, the '97 S1 was the Buell entry into the rough and tumble hooligan bikes and I still think the S1 is one of the coolest bikes Erik designed.

Nice motor which will really wake up with a new set of heads - should you at some point consider doing some modifications : )

There were some recalls on the tubers. Have your dealer run your VIN and check if the recalls were performed on your bike.

Henrik
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Daves
Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 09:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Congrats on the new bike.

My advise to as you describe yourself "a fairly new rider"
Don't worry about how fast it will go!
Wear your gear ALL THE TIME!
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Jerry_haughton
Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 09:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

what Daves said. : )

FB
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Essthreetee
Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wear your gear ALL THE TIME!

You mean I shouldn't be riding in my flip flops?!!?
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Mfell2112
Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What Daves said.

Mike
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Oldog
Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 01:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

what Daves & FB & Mike said

Ride safe and welcome.
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Ryker77
Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 02:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

fast enough to splatter your bones into mush in a crash.

Ride safe and enjoy life.
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Jersey_thunder
Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 03:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

how fast i should expect it to go....
FAST? WRONG QUESTION FOR A "fairly new rider"
and any advice to a fairly new rider... STUPID HURTS!!!!
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Rocketman
Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 03:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jeez dudes. Next you'll be telling 'speed kills'.

Your S1 is a fairly aggressive looking streetfighter, but it has potential to be even more so. It is also a bit of a performer, and it has the potential to be even more so.

There are a great many after market parts, dealing with looks as well as performance, available for tube frame Lightnings.

Personal choice plays the major role in how your S1 will look, but for performance you should consider modifying the carb, air filter and exhaust system if you really want to reap some extra benefits that will also safeguard the longevity of your S1, if they haven't already been done.

I doubt your S1 will still have the 'bread box' air filter system fitted. If it does, it works absolutely fine, if you can live with its cumbersome looks. Otherwise consider the Buell Race Kit filter with the carbon fiber 'ham can', or the Forcewinder, which has the 90 deg bend placing a tapered K&N filter facing forward. Both systems work very good. Others, such as Kuryakyn, the forward facing scoop with two butterfly plates in it, or the S&S round or teardrop shaped filters don't work so well but are fine if you're not looking for ten tenth's performance.

A simple carb modification, such as the Yost Powertube, should take care of the pinking problems if you are experiencing them. It is basically a different shape needle and tube, easy to install, and a simple modification involving a drill bit, that will compliment your after market air filter and give more power to your motor whilst offering a bit of an insurance policy to your top end by richening up the mixture correctly.

The stock silencer system is heavy and suffocating. There are many choices available. The best would be to look for a 2 1/2 inch bore header, such as the Race Kit Headers, and their accompanying muffler. Both rare and not without cracking problems it has to be said. Exhaust systems are always a matter of concern. Be it broken manifold studs. Cracked headers and mufflers, or their associated mounting hardware. Yes it will no doubt at times cause you many headaches, but get your choice of system right and it will reward.

One last thing. If you've acquired your S1 to chase down Japanese type super bikes, like I sometimes try and do, be ready to sometimes suffer the consequences in the wear and tare department. After 8 years of ownership, and a lot of downtime (but that's another somewhat unrelated story), it's my opinion these tube frame Hot Rods should be ridden in anger on more appropriate roads which aren't necessarily where you'll find your R1's, GSXR's or similar. If they are those type of roads be prepared to ride your S1 hard and it will reward perhaps better than you ever imagined, but that might come at a high maintenance price.

Enjoy.

Rocket
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Diablobrian
Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 04:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

As a new rider wear your gear, all of it. Do not fall victim to fashion concerns.

Buy quality gear engineered for riding. Fashion leather jackets are better than
nothing, but not much better. Also make sure your gear fits properly and doesn't flap.

Even on short rides take the time to gear up. It will save you a ton of misery, or
even your life. I know, my gear saved mine, and my wife's on a 2 mile ride.

Keep your head on a swivel and expect the worst from every car on the road.

They are out to get you. Believe it, and it will save your life many times over.


Now having said that, riding is one of life's great passions.

Non-riders will NEVER understand why we do it.

Get out and enjoy your bike for what it is.

Don't waste your time trying to see if it measures up to anyone else's bike.

The rider has more to do with a bikes performance on a twisty road than the bike does.


The bottom line is enjoy it. There is a wealth of knowledge available here,
check out the Knowledge Vault. Do not be afraid to ask questions!

Oh yeah, Welcome to Badweb;)
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Jersey_thunder
Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 04:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

O, I FORGOT...GREAT BIKE!!!...enjoy and ride safe.
the correct gear and level head...you will enjoy your S1 big time!
don't worry about "top end"...that machine belongs on the twisties!!


JT
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 04:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you have a cast iron butt, you could put a corbin seat on it, or else an upholstered plank will do equually well. Best bet is to stay with the orig in my op.

As for the speed thing, it don't matter how fast it go's, all that matters is that it puts a huge grin on your face & that you stay alive for people to see it!
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Lornce
Posted on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 - 11:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Somebody once told me his T-Stormed S1 with 29/55 pulleys would show 145mph.

Can't remember who it was, though. My memory's a little fuzzy....
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Lornce
Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 05:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Whoops, make that 29/61 pulleys to see 145mph with a T-Stormed S1.
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Sleez
Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 05:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

if someone has the drag coefficient of a 97 S1, i could figure the terminal velocity if you say...pushed it off the top of the empire state building...guessing somewhere around 200 mph???? assuming it stayed in a direct nose down attitude the whole way....oh forget it!
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Lornce
Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 05:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cool!

How much horsepower does it take to run gravity, anyway?

: )
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Sleez
Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2006 - 06:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

quick calcs with a few assumption...100 to 150 mph!!

unless of course you ccould get some traction on the way down...accelerate beyond gravity..???

(Message edited by sleez on April 27, 2006)
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