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Lowflyer
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 09:30 am: |
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Buellgrrl, It's 'Biker Boyz;' not 'biker boys.' I doubt any one of us that is as insecure as someone who has nothing substantive to say without calling someone else a name. CyberDrama aside, you seem to be more agitated than usual. How are you managing with your illness? Lowflyer |
Buellgrrrl
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 12:32 pm: |
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Sheesh... Such sensitive male egos! I wasn't calling Buell riders "biker boys"- most Buell riders are motorcyclists. Then again, one wonders about the ones who still hang around here after they stick a Buell logo on their chops just because they trashed a Buell to obtain it's powertrain. If Erik the founder happened to walk by one I wouldn't blame him for tearing the Buell logo right off such a backward bike, but I'm sure he's too much a gentleman to do that, And yes, I know the difference between boys and boyz and even bois... |
Ryker77
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 01:09 pm: |
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If Erik did build a Buell chopper I am sure more people would buy it than a "normal buell" and he could charge more for them. And because they are simple to build make more of a profit. Simply a Buell is the best method for bike builders to get everything they need for less than 5,000. It would cost you over 5g just to get a evo or tc88 motor and trans. I'd consider a mutant if if had a rear suspension. Hardtails is for looks only. But i would try and find a wrecked buell over a nice rideable bike. |
Kccyclone
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 02:20 pm: |
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BUELLGRRRL WROTE: "Then again, one wonders about the ones who still hang around here after they stick a Buell logo on their chops just because they trashed a Buell to obtain it's powertrain" Why shouldn't Buell Chopper owners be on here...For that matter why shouldn't BMW or Goldwing owners be welcome here to share their motorcycle passion...Who's to say you even have to have a bike to contribute knowledge and life experiences on this site? Out of your 76 posts how many actually contribute to the people that read them? Out of the 10 or so I've seen...NOT ANY.. And before you try and bring E.B. into the mix, what do you think he did to create his motorcycle? He bastardized a Harley...I don't think Erik got to where he is today by generalizing what and who people are. A lesson you obviously haven't learned as of yet. The only thing I wonder about is what you are doing in a forum, when you really don't like people in general. Larry |
Skull
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 02:22 pm: |
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I own a Firebolt and a Mutant Buell just because I thought they were both fun to ride in their own way. Now after reading this thread I'm really confused, what am I, a "Biker", a "wannabe"? Oh my god what do I do, I need to see a therapist. Somebody please send help quick before I loose my identity completely! |
Buellbozo
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 02:54 pm: |
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This is a quote that's been very helpful to me over the years.I don't remember it nearly as often as I should. "There is a principal which is a bar against all information,which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance- that principle is contempt prior to investigation". -Herbert Spencer I ALWAYS benefit from open-mindedness.Best example I could offer is myself...How else could a confirmed Harley hating Brit&Euro rider end up with the most incredible of 18 (so far)bikes: MY BUELL!! JMTCW |
Shazam
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 03:02 pm: |
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Buellgrrrl, I'm curious, how many pairs of shoes do you have? yes, stereotypical.... but are they all high-heels? If you say one all purpose pair, I'll concede my views. Just trying to make a point, sometimes you have to back away from an issue and look at it from a woman's perspective, to understand what the they are talking about. |
Jsunstar
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 07:03 pm: |
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i built my harley into a buell... hmm, im ahead of my time! o wait, erik did already that! you guys likey?
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Jsunstar
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 07:08 pm: |
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i did that to my sportster before I found my buell S2. I didnt know buell even existed before i found that buell frontend i used! (wow, that was 1996!) the front end cost me 1200.00! buell spares were scarce then! |
Buellin_ri
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 07:12 pm: |
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Thats a pretty cool bike Jsunstar. I like different. Choppers now-a-days are not different, they seem to be the norm. |
Jsunstar
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 07:18 pm: |
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thanks, i like to be different too. theres no one around with one like mine, even if there were, they couldnt catch me! this thing flies! its not about what you ride, its who you ride! i mean , its about where you ride, i mean, its about HOW FAST YOU CAN GO (and still make a bend!) haha. im glad yinz are having fun with this! having opinions is what makes us an individual. and this carries over into what we ride! if you can build it, ride it. if you can ride it, wanna race? |
Spatten1
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 07:39 pm: |
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Jsunstar: Nice job. It's a sweet UAM. The front end looks great. |
Tom_b
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 07:56 pm: |
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Hey buellgrrrl, How many bikes you own, or have owned? I just ask because you seem pretty adamant about being anti chopper. I'm 43 yrs old, currently own 3 rideable and 3 project bikes. Most are asian, but have owned english, german and american. Currently one of my project bikes is an asian chopper, another is an asian cafe racer, I still own a buell also. I'm too old and too married to care what some insecure bar hound might think of me and my bike. I just ride what fits for the day. I also ride with friends that own about every bike made, no problems here, at least they are riding! |
Jsunstar
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 08:16 pm: |
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heres a part from a chopper to buell conversion! thats really funny! check it out http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Harley-and-Buell-Sportster-Exhaust-Pipes_W0QQcmdZ ViewItemQQcategoryZ34284QQitemZ4598394510QQrdZ1 |
Buellgrrrl
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 08:37 pm: |
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Well boys, ya'll gang up on BuellGrrrl, but you ain't been able to shut 'ol lady BuellGrrrl up... For those of you that think your bastard chopper frame fantasy is still a Buell- take a look at a Buell. What part of the bike did Erik Buell and company design? Pretty much the frame... and when you throw that away what you have left is no longer a Buell, but a Harley drivetrain in somebodies ill designed and crudely built collection of sewer pipe. So if you're riding a "chop", you may be a nice guy, but you're not ridin' a Buell! |
Ryker77
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 08:42 pm: |
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agreed--- But do you call your bike a sportster engine? |
Rex
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 08:46 pm: |
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well, if I had to have a chopper, I would want some buell bloodlines in it.ahahaha. REX |
Kccyclone
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 09:06 pm: |
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Buellgrrrl, nobody has said that a custom chopper is a Buell...What we have said is that is DOESN'T FRICKEN MATTER....Your the one callin' people wannabees and biker boyz and drunks...That's what has gotten everybody worked up..It's your generalization of people due to the fact that their taste is different than the sole motorcycle god (Buellgrrl)... Quit putting people in these preconceived groups, and try getting to know people for who they are... Take a look through some other highly debated threads and see if everyone is ganging upon one person...I would take this as a sign that you have some personality issues that need to be looked at (probably by a professional).. I'm done trying to talk sense into you...You are obviously an old dog that can't be taught to be civil...All I can say is good luck going through life with your attitude..Life is too short, and true friends are too few to go around with a closed mind.. Larry |
Lowflyer
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 09:21 pm: |
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Agree or don't, choppers built by individuals generally assume the brand name of the motorcycle OEM associated with the powerplant. There's no cause for fanaticism over the 'Buell' name. It's just another brand of bike. If you are all emotional over it, that's your fault. |
No_rice
| Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 09:40 pm: |
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D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. about most peoples opinions? NO!!! i'll like what i want and do what i want. unless i ASK someone for there opinion. then its my own fault if they give me some smart a$$ one sided remark. but i am smart enough to realize there is life beyond my personal views on things. |
Spatten1
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 10:09 am: |
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Lowflyer is right. A "Honda chopper" with aftermarket frame is called a Honda chopper b/c of the engine. Same with a Triumph chopper, etc. That is just the common reference, not meaning anything deep or strictly defined. |
Buellgrrrl
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 11:03 am: |
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The fact you guys are missing is that Buell doesn't make Buell engines; Harley does. So a bastard chopper with an engine 'jacked out of a Buell is by your definition a Harley chop. Of course, Harley for good reason doesn't care to be associated with such bastard children and doesn't like seeing crude choppers advertised as "custom Harley"s just because they use a Harley engine. So once you move that engine from a Buell to a "chop" don't expect any support from Harley! |
Taxman
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 12:25 pm: |
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from what I see Buellgrrl is sticking to the topic more closely than the rest. That topic was a no holds barred discussion of what you think about Buell engines donated to make a chopper. When she stated her opinion, just like the rest of you, some people stopped talking about bikes and started talking about her. Get back on topic and talk about bikes. My dislike of choppers is two-fold. First off I’m not a big fan of that sort of bike. And by that I mean cruisers, customs, choppers, Harleys, and the list goes on. My main interest is sport bikes. The reason I purchased a buell is for the looks, engine didn't matter much to me at the time of purchase. So the idea of a chopper to me is not what I would list as a fun time. in all honesty I have to say that I have never ridden a chopper and that my opinion is based on my view of interest (I don't have to put liver in my chocolate pudding to know I won't like it). My second reason is basically diluted BS. Choppers in my opinion are a throw-back to a society of bikers of a different age. If you look back at how chopper owners of old are portrayed in movies and TV they are all hard core "smack my woman kick your butt" bikers. This attitude of not taking any crap nomadic ruggedness appeals to a lot of people. There are a lot of people that for a long time liked wearing leather jackets because somewhere subconsciously they felt tougher. I think that is a big part of why choppers are making a come-back. I’m not saying that all chopper owners are this mentality. Usually after something starts to become more popular other clicks gain an interest also. But in the end what you have is a large group of people all attracted to a lifestyle of a different era. And in ways these people are adopting the fashion aspect of that era. In a way owning a chopper and saying “it’s fun to ride” is about the same to me as a white guy in Colorado acting like a rapper on mtv “fo shizzle”. Please remember that these are my views about motorcycles and I mean to offend no one. These are my personal generalizations of types of bike owners and in no way reflects my feelings of any specific person on Badweb. |
Skyguy
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 12:48 pm: |
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Ok here is my two cents. I love the machine work, ingenuity and thought that goes into the modern "chopper". Some of these bikes are really something to look at. I will never forget one of the biker build off shows that featured a Japanese guy who built a 1940 something chopper and used parts of an old japanese zero for the exhaust. Simply gorgeous. I am a hard core sport bike guy though and have little to no desire to ride a chopper. Bad handling, heavy, loud and usually designed to draw attention to a rider craving the attention of a mommy ever loved him. That being said i really enjoyed renting a vrod in Maui and cruising around the island. It had straight pipes and would likely have gotten me laid had I been single. Women actually waved at me while my girlfriend was on the back. Don't get that on the Buell much.......... Regardless of my personal taste ANYONE that rides gets my respect until they ride like a squid! |
Skyguy
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 12:52 pm: |
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Ok here is my two cents. I love the machine work, ingenuity and thought that goes into the modern "chopper". Some of these bikes are really something to look at. I will never forget one of the biker build off shows that featured a Japanese guy who built a 1940 something chopper and used parts of an old japanese zero for the exhaust. Simply gorgeous. I am a hard core sport bike guy though and have little to no desire to ride a chopper. Bad handling, heavy, loud and usually designed for a rider craving the attention of a mommy that never loved him. That being said I really enjoyed renting a vrod in Maui and cruising around the island without a helmet it was liberting and very relaxing. It had straight pipes and would likely have gotten me laid had I been single. Women actually waved at me while my girlfriend was on the back. Don't get that on the Buell much.......... Regardless of my personal taste ANYONE that rides gets my respect until they ride like a squid! |
Jersey_thunder
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 01:26 pm: |
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Buellgrrrl, Your ok in my book... JT |
Kccyclone
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 02:15 pm: |
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Taxman, the thread was about what you think of turning Buell's into choppers..correct...Not what do you think of the people that turn Buells into choppers..Start from the top of the thread and tell me Buellgrrrl stuck on topic. |
Hanses25
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 09:02 pm: |
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"The fact you guys are missing is that Buell doesn't make Buell engines; Harley does. So a bastard chopper with an engine 'jacked out of a Buell is by your definition a Harley chop." " Oh so what you are saying Buellgrrrl is that I already have a custom Harley chopper since Buell jacked Harley's engine for our bikes? Oh Sweat Note to self: Check off owning a harley chopper from my life accomplishments list!!!!! "Jump skip hop" hurray!!!!!!! |
Tom_b
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 10:08 pm: |
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Genuine choppers I like whether it be a hacked up buell or whatever. When I say genuine choppers i mean a modified stock frame raked, lowered and fenders bobbed. Not a production line frame, tank and such, thrown together with a pretty paint job. I do hate to see a buell or any other clean original bike chopped. there are usually enough beaters around to chop. I live where Big Dog cycles are built and get tired of seeing them. I much more appreciate a small shop fabricated or home fab chopper. I like chopped out triumphs much more than harleys |
Tom_b
| Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 10:10 pm: |
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By the way nice ride Jsunstar! |
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