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Tramp
Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 09:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blake said:
"Whether or not you consider it fair to insult a group in general is up to you to decide. Personally, I find it difficult to object to insults waged against al qaeda and/or their supporters. You insult all Arabs or muslims in general, I'll have a big problem with that."
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Oddbawl
Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 09:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

He did. I'll remember he wrote that.
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Jon
Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

BruceLee,

You're not going to get tossed for crying out loud. But you do seem a bit touchy...Perhaps you should change your deodorant or even your coffee brand. Hey it works in commercials!
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 10:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I can absolutely use all the help towards staying honest that I can get, and am flattered and appreciative that you are willing to help me with that.

I wish I could return the favor, but frankly I'm horribly ill-equipped and far too short on free-time to act as anyone's integrity compass. But if you ever need any help with math let me know.
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Brucelee
Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 10:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Perhaps you should change your deodorant or even your coffee brand. Hey it works in commercials!"

That is not a bad idea. Perhaps DECAF??
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Brucelee
Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 10:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I never believed the silly stereotypes to begin with."


"The stereotype about us degos (italians) being great lovers is true.


some stereotypes are good "

Remember, I said there is an element of truth in all stereotypes!
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Brucelee
Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 10:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

From Blazing Saddles:

Well, allright, we'll take the niggers and the Chinks, but we won't take the Irish!

As part Mick, I found this hysterical. Of course, at one time, it was true!
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M2nc
Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 10:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

As far as for the Spanish siesta, it may not be productive but it is healthy. The spanish eat there big meal at the middle of the day then take a nap. Digestion takes allot of energy and since babies we tend to nap after a big meal. The Spanish just do not fight nature. After a nap they return to work a burn off the meal before bedding down for the night. That's why we talk about fat Americans and not Spaniards.
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Tramp
Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 11:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

my best friend is a spaniard.
helluva guy.
knows how to live, loyal friend.
an angel's angel.
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 11:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Speaking as a Lombard I refuse to be pigeonholed as a "Dego" lover. I say f#$%^ the Ostrogoths and Visigoths. Golddarned barbarians!!!!!
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Oddbawl
Posted on Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 11:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blake, my math does suck... anywho, that's that.
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Jon
Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 02:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Some of my best friends are Irish....honest!"
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Mountainrider
Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 07:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

People are just way to sensitive anymore. Take life way to serious. I enjoy myself and peoples slang is not going to get me upset. Here in the north Ga. mountains we get called a bunch of stuff by Yankees (yankees slang for people from the north). We are rednecks ,hillbillys and those are just the nice ones. But we are not above slang for the rest of the country. We have a bunch of halfbacks here (halfbacks are yankees who moved to Fla. and then ended up here). I guess they could not make it all way back up north. You do not want to know what the slang is for people who live in Fla. or the west coast .So when you call someone a raghead or towelhead big deal. I am sure someone is calling you something a lot worse. If this offends anyone to bad go drink a beer. It will be better in the morning.

People are calling be a Buellrider should I be offended?
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Glitch
Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 07:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

HillBueller!
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Mountainrider
Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 08:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Glitch you are going to keep on until you hurt my feelings.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 02:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"That's why we talk about fat Americans and not Spaniards."

Yeah, but Americans of Hispanic descent are the most obese group of people in the US, followed by native-Americans, blacks, whites and then Asians (yellows?).
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Tramp
Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 04:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Most "hispanics" are closer to 3/4 "native american" (i can't stand that term ) and are typically a quarter spanish, by blood, at most.
Typically, Hispanics have more "Native american" blood than self-proclaimed "Native americans".
M2nc was referring to Spaniards, and not "Hispanics".
there were far more native americans in south and central america, (and formerly, also the caribbean {arawak and carib}), than there ever were spanish conquistadors/immigrants, historiaclly, so spanish blood accounts for very little of that of hispanics.
The introduction of fat, european livestock, and the attendant usage of their fat for food accounts for much of this obesity in a people who subsisted on potatoes and greens and more game meats for most of their existence. Their gastrointestinal ssystems are simply ill-equipped to metabolize the lard and tallow of european livestock so central to their modern diets.
even the typical order of frijoles refritos is full of beef tallow/lard.
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M2nc
Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 05:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hit it on the head Tramp. Please do not confuse Hispanics with Spaniards. Also, I was not referring to the genetics as much as the life style. I saw a news program on people that live past 100 years old. They talk about common threads among this group. It breaks down to 25% genetics and 75% lifestyle. I just think the Spaniards have the lifestyle right. Most Nutritionist will tell you that smaller meals more frequently are better than one big meal especially late in the day. The Spanish just figured that out early.
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Hootowl
Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

As genetically similar as we all are to each other, I simply can not believe that we have different digestive systems. A dog and her pup have less in common genetically than two people taken from random spots on the planet. I'm not a geneticist, but I saw one on TV. And I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
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Tramp
Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 06:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hootowl- tremendous differences due to cultural conditioning.
M2nc- My best buddy's mom (his folks are both from the porto/espana border area of espana)
knows how much I love the fresh sardines she picks up at the market in the city, and invites me over for grilled sardines when she's in town.
When I think of that excellent meal, and the attendant lifestyle, it's more than clear why the Spanish live so long.
The Spanish breathe an entirely different air than the rest of us Gringos....
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Kdan
Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 10:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

da·go also Da·go Audio pronunciation of "dago"
n. Offensive Slang pl. da·gos or da·goes

Used as a disparaging term for an Italian, Spaniard, or Portuguese.

Have fun with it. And "Native Americans" prefer to be called Indians.
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Tramp
Posted on Friday, December 30, 2005 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Go, KDAN!
yep- that "Native American" thing is another PC Paradox.
I call 'em injuns...
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Thansesxb9rs
Posted on Monday, January 02, 2006 - 12:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Where did the term Hispanics come from? I have never heard of Hispania!
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Superbee24
Posted on Monday, January 02, 2006 - 01:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Where did the term Hispanics come from? I have never heard of Hispania1

I Know what you mean. I am Mexican Not HISPANIC. I hate being called anything that has the word PANIC in it.
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Tramp
Posted on Monday, January 02, 2006 - 03:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i am peeing myself, superbee.
there is a hispaniola, isn't there?
I believe hispanic is a name-branded term that comes from hispaniola, (but i'm not totally sure)
and that initially, it meant caribbean spanish-speaker.
maybe google "hispanic etymology origin"
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Monday, January 02, 2006 - 05:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Tramp
Posted on Monday, January 02, 2006 - 05:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I googled it. "Hispaniola" is a monniker for the dominican republic, it's a derivation/bastardization of "l'espanola"...
hence, "hispanic" means dominican, technically.
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Blake
Posted on Monday, January 02, 2006 - 05:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Trampipedia nails it again. : )


quote:

His·pan·io·la (his´p?n-y?l?)
Formerly Hai·ti (h?te)

An island of the West Indies east of Cuba, divided between Haiti and the Dominican Republic. It was discovered by Columbus in 1492 and was originally called Española. The western part (now Haiti) was ceded to France by Spain in 1697.

Excerpted from The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition



Hispanic

Usage Note: There are a number of words denoting persons who trace their origins to a Spanish-speaking country or culture. Hispanic is the broadest of these terms, encompassing all Spanish-speaking peoples in both hemispheres and emphasizing the common denominator of language between communities that sometimes have little else in common. It is widely used in both official and unofficial contexts and is entirely acceptable, although like the term Spanish American, it has occasionally been criticized as unduly emphasizing the role of European influences in shaping ethnic identity to the neglect of indigenous cultures. Latino is also in wide use, but it is somewhat less formal in most contexts and is generally restricted to persons of Latin-American descent.

Excerpted from The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition


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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Monday, January 02, 2006 - 05:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have been told by a Chicago resident (who shall remain nameless) that another term for someone of this type is "Beaner".

Separated from most of you, as I am, by a few thousand miles of mostly water, I had thought that this was a reference to Bostonians, as in "Bean Town"

I would be totally horrified to discover otherwise & would possibly even have to consider revealing my source, who has himself been referred to as a "g*dd*m beaner"

Please please tell me, that in the land of the free, it isn't so!!!!

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Tramp
Posted on Monday, January 02, 2006 - 05:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

so it appears that haiti comprises half of hispaniola, which is interesting, considering they speak a patois like beche-la-mere, there.
there were some cool self-expressions for mexican american and central american, out west, in the 60s and 70s....
i can't remember them right now.
freddie prinze (sr.) always used the one term, i think it started with a "p"....
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