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No_rice
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 05:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i really need one of these heyenas(sp) to add to my collection of pets i've had!
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Tramp
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thankfully, that's photoshopped.
You know Hyenas are cousins to cats?
weird animal. stuff of nightmares.
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Tramp
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 10:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That photo is too disturbing on too many levels. sorta "12 Monkeys" meets "Boys in the Hood"
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Doughnut
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 10:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Tramp
Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 10:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When we move into the slightly larger place across the street, this spring, Z-Girl and I'll be getting either a Cougar or Lynx cub. I'll post pics.
I want a Tiger before I'm 50
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Oldog
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2005 - 12:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tranp
Are you sure that the top photo is a PS job?
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No_rice
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2005 - 01:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i have had a cougar, lynx, and 4 wolves. first wolf was killed by a neighbor i am assuming (beatn to death while chained in my yard). got my second one which is my baby about 7 years ago. and got a breading pair a few years after that. the male of that pair ended up costing me a good hundered grand in medical bills. supposedly i am lucky to be alive. 4 surgeons and six hours just to stitch my face back together. chunk out of my side and some broken ribs. solid scars running 3/4 the length of my forearm, new tendons and arteries, and chunks of bone gone out of it and my wrist. not to mention the 4 broken knuckles from pounding on his head. couple holes in the walls from swinging him around, and the mess in my porch from having to shoot him off of my arm.
definantly was an experiance though.

what doesn't kill me makes me stronger
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Kdan
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2005 - 03:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a goldfish. He's mean though.
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Seth
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2005 - 05:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've a cat.

...obviously.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2005 - 08:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was about to say what a bad idea it is to try and keep wolves as pets, but it sounds like you already know (learned) that.
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Glitch
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2005 - 08:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It ain't Photoshop.

It's in Nigeria.
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Kevyn
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2005 - 11:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

...oh geez, how long before the 'gangsta' dudes start parading their hyena hybrids on logging chains...
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Ted
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2005 - 03:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I didnt realize Hyena's were so big. scary
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Kevyn
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2005 - 04:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

...on the bright side, there is nothing in the picture that 240gr of a well placed high velocity lead based projectile wouldn't tame. Man or beast.

Does not look like a 'friendly' neighborhood...
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Spreadem
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2005 - 05:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wonder how many people get suckered into a discount safari vacation, and end up somewhere like that...
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No_rice
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2005 - 05:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

what i would really like is a panther, but that gets way out of my price range. still cheaper than my dream pet a white tiger. that'll never happen
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Jersey_thunder
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2005 - 05:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

...on the bright side, there is nothing in the picture that 240gr of a well placed high velocity lead based projectile wouldn't tame. Man or beast


I NEED TO HIT THE RANGE MORE OFTEN!

JT
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2005 - 05:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Can you train those things at all?
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Tramp
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2005 - 05:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

that shot's photoshopped.
NO baboon would sit like that around people, esp. in a street. the moving baboon and the hyenas look matted, besides. seriously doubt it's a real-life scene, although it certainly does appear to be in Africa.
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Tramp
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2005 - 05:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the head of the unmuzzled baboon shows a definitive photoshop 'aura' (reddish fuzziness to immediate, srrounding field) as does foreground baboon's forearm. see that brown fuzziness to the area around the front of the forearm?
that's 'aura'.
survey says "photoshop"
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Jersey_thunder
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2005 - 05:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

does appear to be in Africa .....OR THE BRONX.

JT
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Tramp
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2005 - 06:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

N0_rice:
wolves are very, very rarely decent pets, even crosses.
can't turn one's back on a wolf.
dogs tame through pack stature, and the human needs be the alpha. with canis domesticus, the pack-standing of the human alpha goes largely unchallenged because for tens of thousands of generations, canis domesticus has known homo erectus, then sapiens, to BE the alpha, just like a chocolate lab pup that's never seen water or a duck will jump up and do the 'splash' leap when running toi retrieve a frisbee, and an english pointer will 'point' at a bobwhite without training, and a brit will point without lifting the paw, etc.
thousands of genarations have ingrained that into domestic dogs. not so with wolves.
lousy
stupid
choice for companion/pet.
expect challenges and backstabbings.
now, cats, on the other hand, have an entirely different relationship with their human hosts. it's familial. the human who's raised the cat is mom or dad. period. cats (aside from lions) , unlike dogs, are not pack animals, so they know only a family caste. no challenge needed.
further, cats are not olfactorily governed, socially, they rely on auditory and visual cues more than olfactory, so humans don't seem so alien to them. dogs, a more olfactorily guided critter, always sense a 'difference' between humans and themselves, therefore never establishing a direct maternal/pateral bond, but instead a (usually warm and caring) pack bond.
other humans set dogs off; indeed, dogs raised by african americans grow suspicious of caucasoids, and vice-versa. entirely different human scent.
we white folk have to come to terms with the fact that we smell like wet fowl. dogs know this, cats are oblivious to it all. anyway- cougars are the most tamable north american mammal. bottle-raised from early infancy (eyes closed), a cougar cub builds a lifelong bond with it's human host, which only death itself can break. now, all bets are off for other humans, unless the cougar sees ease and friendliness bewteen the humans. handshakes, in front of big cat pets, are to be avoided, but a quick pat on the back or 'touching gloves' (or, in the case of bobcats and lynx, touching foreheads lightly and quickly) lets the cat know the other human's OK. how did your own experiences with cougars work out?
incidentally, "panther" is just a sobriquet for cougar, as is puma, mountain lion, painter, etc.
black panthers are melanistic leopards or jaguars.
i can train housecats to do remarkable stuff. our present attack tabby stands and performs pirouettes, and responds to silent hand commands.
she is great with chasing and pouncing on frisbees, she'll chase thrown logs 5 times her size, she retrieves paper balls, and, when she's big enough, i look forward to having here retrieve the frisbees. of course, she's not fed regular cat food, and she gets plenty of cooked meat. high protein meat makes dogs and cats far more active and athletic, and they'll live much, much longer due to the lessened reno-hepatic load provided by cooked whole meats.
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Oldog
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2005 - 06:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tramp are you using a crt monitor or a flat screen?
I have a 17" flat at any rez setting I do not see the artifacts that you are describing, the chains do not look paisted in either it is either the highest quality PS job
or a photo, I find my self in disagreement with you sir, it looks like a photo....
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Jersey_thunder
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2005 - 06:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

SHADOWS..REFLECTIONS
i'm no expert..looks real to me...

jt
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Tramp
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2005 - 06:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

in the first picture, look carefully at the shadows. the baboon's strong shadow throws back and to the baboon's left (how "zabruder film" does THAT sound?), while both hyenas throw shadows in the opposite direction.
note that the man standing next to the baoon throws no shadow whatsoever.
who do you think he is, "Blackula"?
look closely at the unmuzzled hyena's head.
see that reddish 'aura' around the top of the head, between the ears and the left eye?
see the same over the mane of the foreground hyena? sure sign of photoshop, as i said earlier.
what do you think, they only trained us in language?
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Tramp
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2005 - 06:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

olddog said:
"Tramp are you using a crt monitor or a flat screen?
I have a 17" flat at any rez setting I do not see the artifacts that you are describing, the chains do not look paisted in either it is either the highest quality PS job
or a photo, I find my self in disagreement with you sir, it looks like a photo...."
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* OK, old dog. then I guess you believe in Vampires and think we have more than one sun inour solar system. trust me, i had to study this stuff at language school.
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Tramp
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2005 - 06:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the guy doing the PS work simply did too much. the most common mistake in retouching. look at the foreground hyena's shadow- it comes right at the camera, while the baboon's goes the other way, and Count Chocula throws no shadow whatsoever. besides, baboons can't be tamed to the leash, even with a choke collar. that baboon would rip everyone to pieces is if it could so much as sit upright. everybody knows that.
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Ocbueller
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2005 - 06:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Don't know about the baboons but the hyenas are for real. That pic is likely from Somalia, the location of Blackhawk Down. The gangs apparently use them for intimidation, similar to the gangs in the U.S. who favor pitbulls.
SteveH

(Message edited by ocbueller on December 09, 2005)
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Tramp
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2005 - 06:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

and the people there don't cast shadows, AND the hyenas throw shadows in different directions than each other?
golly.
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Oldog
Posted on Friday, December 09, 2005 - 06:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the only anomily I see is the "blackula" shadow
the baboon chain also looks a little funky

as far as my other beliefs they are not up for discussion, sides the world IS flat..........
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