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1313
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 10:51 pm: | 
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Can I own a stock bike? I answer that question with one of my favorite quotes: "Stock is for sissies!" I prefer my rides modified. My S2 is highly modified, while my V-Rod looks stock externally.
A friend of mine who spent a couple of years in the US went back to Germany with his Sporty 883R that he punched out to a 1200 while in the states. I think this excerpt from a recent E-mail pretty much sums up his feelings as well:
"My Harley is almost finished for German DMV; currently fighting for small number plate (German ones are 3 x bigger than US). The screaming eagle pipes will be definitely not accepted, but for sure the damned orig. ones will be unscrewed after I left the DMV station.."
Modifieds for me,
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Essthreetee
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 11:14 pm: |
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Quote from regulations...
2 Will new highway motorcycle emission standards affect motorcycles on the road today? The new regulations will only affect new motorcycles produced for the 2006 and later model years. Anything manufactured prior to the 2006 model year will not be affected and will remain legal to own and operate. EPA generally provides several years of lead time between publication of a final rule and the effective date of new standards. Thus, new standards for motorcycles will not have any effect on motorcycles purchased prior to the 2006 model year.
Plus after reading the entire link above, it sounds as though they are referring to the little black canisters on bikes. Maybe you guys that don't live in CA don't have them...but here we do. On every Harley and on my Buell resides a little black canister that is there to do something for emissions. On my first HD, off it came. On my wifes, off it came. Did it make a difference??? I couldn't tell...So they have stayed on the last ones...no biggie.
Plus, aren't we still allowed to change exhaust on Cars?? The only rule is that if it came with a catalytic converter...it has to keep one. It is still ok to put on FLowmasters or whatever you choose...why would it be any different for motorcycles???
(Message edited by Essthreetee on December 06, 2005) |
Koz5150
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 11:42 pm: |
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The article in American Iron Magazine is much more "scary" sounding as far as limitations. I just hope the EPA doesn't go crazy on everybody. |
Swampy
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 12:34 am: |
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UH?
Firearms anyone?
I think the problem could be solved very easily.
Sorry, I'm just silly like this in the winter time. |
Oldog
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 08:13 am: |
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This is the same line of thought that "we" dealt with in my former job..
While there have been many
vehicle emission control technology advances over the past two decades,
today’s motorcycles produce more harmful emissions per mile than
driving a car or even a large sport utility vehicle (SUV). The current
federal motorcycle emission standard for hydrocarbon emissions is about
90 times the hydrocarbon standard for today’s passenger cars.
I find this at least some what laughable as my suv sports 4.6L engine 90x emissions I guess that there is raw fuel running from the tail pipe of my X1.... |
Oldog
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 08:52 am: |
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ok heres your 90% odd that the yamaha has nearly 10x the emissions as the vtx, and better than 4 x the emissions of the beemer.
seems like a small sample to base the 90x remark on, the other thing that is puzzling to me is the fact that the cycles displace much less air than the SUVs and conversly burn much less fuel.
about the other alterations...
Finally, there are currently
tampering prohibitions regarding noise control equipment on motorcycles,
and even though it is very common to install aftermarket exhaust
pipes on street bikes, the market for aftermarket exhaust systems continues
to thrive and does not appear to be harmed or otherwise restricted by
these existing prohibitions.
I made a comment a while back in another thread about removing the efi on some bikes or adding a control modifier, IF the enforcement of these rules gets stiff enough, these changes on bikes 06' and later will be an issue.. IF "they" want to it can be an issue for any bike built after the clean air act...
(Message edited by oldog on December 07, 2005) |
Bake
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 09:44 am: |
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I could be happy with a stock Buell, but we don't need to worry about the EPA.
Are they going after the offroad bikes as well? That would really suck. |
Oldog
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 09:56 am: |
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if you read the faq, i have to say yes they will "address" it
I would be ok with a stock Buell 06 or later.. |
Ryker77
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 10:16 am: |
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Each state will simply pass the buck onto the citizen.. much like it is allready in most areas. You can either pay to get an annual EPA inspection or face fines and/or have your car tags revolked.. I think some states force the EPA inspection before you can renew your car tags.
The government'S federal, state, local could make alot of money on all of this. So registar to vote and vote! |
Chasespeed
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 10:21 am: |
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I could be happy with a stock Buell
I agree, BUT, it would have to have a throaty exhaust...part of the soul of the Buell if ask me..but hey...
the EPA is clueless, and a pain in the a**..
Chase} |
Nasty73z
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 03:42 pm: |
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This is when it's good to have a buddy that works at a shop and can do the emissions test for you! Here in Oklahoma they got rid of testing several years ago, so no more worries. My Z28 certainly won't pass and after I put exhaust on the XB I doubt it will either. |
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